Sometimes I don't know why I'm pushing so hard. Losing 130+lbs solved nothing.
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You're likely very intrinsic and haven't found anyone that deals well with that yet. You also have to realize that there are many people who desire things (like a family) that you don't and that those type of people who have the same view are you about it, are harder to find. It's gonna take more effort to locate them.
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Keep at it! Try some new stuff, meet some new friends. It sounds like you need a complete overhaul of new stimulus from the inside to the outside. You may be in a rutt...I've been in one before and I'm not sure if I'm not out of the one I think I was previously in? Hard to tell, but I just try to stay positive and challenge myself. I want to add you as a friend to keep up with you. If you need to wrap, hit the inbox!0
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You're likely very intrinsic and haven't found anyone that deals well with that yet.
I don't doubt that at all.
Thing is, while I've never been a "pimp", I've had plenty of dating and relationships growing up. Even being married at one point. Ever since I hit 30 it's been radio silence. No amount of social activities gets me introduced to anyone even remotely compatible or interested. No hundreds of emails on the personals work anymore. To be honest, I got more play at 300lbs. I'm the leanest I've been since college, and the response I get from approaching women is that I'm so homely I should be ashamed to leave my house. Being treated like a monster... is not so fun. Especially when you've been working to do everything in your power to change that.
But yeah, while I'm definitely a bit of a unique person (don't drink, don't smoke, software developer) that isn't compatible with "everyone", I used to be compatible with "some people". But now the past 6 years has been me hitting my head against the wall trying to figure out how to get someone to even speak to me long enough to find out what language I speak. Getting a hello back is like pulling teeth.... it's difficult to have things you want in a partner, when you're forced to drop your standards almost completely and still get rejected at every turn.
But, deep breath. It's sparring tonight. I'm going to spend a couple of hours trying to kick people in the head. If not for my hobbies I'd go insane, because I have no family or home life beyond them. Some guys think it would be a blessing. Ever since I got divorced almost a decade ago its felt like nothing but hell... I never got a second chance at normalcy. Just rejection.
I have ranted WAY too much, and have exposed WAY too much information at this point. I'm pretty sure this thread is going to come back and haunt me one day. :shrug:
Basically, I'm really frustrated trying so hard to lose the last 15lbs, and finding out that all of this effort is not helping to solve the only thing I really hoped it would.0 -
like I said dude, get out of your box!2
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You are cute. I had noticed your picture as cute prior to this thread on the forum. However, the way to get a relationship is not weight or looks it is getting out there and meeting people and truly believing that someone would be lucky to date you. So go out be social meet people have fun flirt.
Then again I am a 41 year old single lady .
That said despite having dated a bunch and wanting a relationship I am glad I am not married to any of my ex boyfriends.1 -
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Yes, losing 130lbs is worth it! That's amazing. You are investing in yourself and that's the most important investment anyone can make! You're not invisible, I feel that way a lot more than I'd like to admit. Making adult friends is hard, ugh.0
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It's a tired, tired phrase, but lose weight for yourself, not to earn others' attention.
Do you have any hobbies that are female-dominated?1 -
I really don't know why you're having such poor luck dating, but whatever the reason, I will lay decent odds that it's not because women are looking at you and thinking, "he needs to have a lower body fat percentage".
You sound and look like you are well out of the zone where your appearance would be having a negative impact on social interactions, even subconsciously. It has to be something else.7 -
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Geocitiesuser wrote: »I'm the leanest I've been since college, and the response I get from approaching women is that I'm so homely I should be ashamed to leave my house. Being treated like a monster... is not so fun. Especially when you've been working to do everything in your power to change that.
I have two questions.
Firstly: are you, even if only subconsciously, expecting to be rejected? If so, maybe that's coming across in your attitude or mannerisms, even if you're trying not to show it. And how do you approach women? Do you give the impression that you're looking for a date immediately, rather than just wanting to chat and get to know her a bit, see if there might be any chemistry? (I'll be honest, I haven't dated for a very long time so I don't know how it's "done" these days anyway!)
Secondly: what is it that the women you try to talk to actually do or say that makes you think what you've said here? Are you able to give any examples? (I understand if you're not comfortable sharing details.) I'm trying to understand why you feel you're being treated like "a monster".snickerscharlie wrote: »Get on with your life and live it to the fullest. It's when you stop focusing on what you don't have that you stop coming across as perhaps being emotionally needy.
Reminds me of a quote I saw years ago. I don't remember the exact words, but it was something along the lines of love being like a butterfly... if you chase it you probably won't catch it, but if you sit quietly it may come and rest on your shoulder. Perhaps you might be trying a little too hard, OP?5 -
Geocitiesuser wrote: »You're likely very intrinsic and haven't found anyone that deals well with that yet.
I don't doubt that at all.
Thing is, while I've never been a "pimp", I've had plenty of dating and relationships growing up. Even being married at one point. Ever since I hit 30 it's been radio silence. No amount of social activities gets me introduced to anyone even remotely compatible or interested. No hundreds of emails on the personals work anymore. To be honest, I got more play at 300lbs. I'm the leanest I've been since college, and the response I get from approaching women is that I'm so homely I should be ashamed to leave my house. Being treated like a monster... is not so fun. Especially when you've been working to do everything in your power to change that.
But yeah, while I'm definitely a bit of a unique person (don't drink, don't smoke, software developer) that isn't compatible with "everyone", I used to be compatible with "some people". But now the past 6 years has been me hitting my head against the wall trying to figure out how to get someone to even speak to me long enough to find out what language I speak. Getting a hello back is like pulling teeth.... it's difficult to have things you want in a partner, when you're forced to drop your standards almost completely and still get rejected at every turn.
But, deep breath. It's sparring tonight. I'm going to spend a couple of hours trying to kick people in the head. If not for my hobbies I'd go insane, because I have no family or home life beyond them. Some guys think it would be a blessing. Ever since I got divorced almost a decade ago its felt like nothing but hell... I never got a second chance at normalcy. Just rejection.
I have ranted WAY too much, and have exposed WAY too much information at this point. I'm pretty sure this thread is going to come back and haunt me one day. :shrug:
Basically, I'm really frustrated trying so hard to lose the last 15lbs, and finding out that all of this effort is not helping to solve the only thing I really hoped it would.
I'll blunt, and apologize in advance if I make ASSumptions that are untrue. Women can smell desperation and insecurity, and it is not attractive. You may say you're not desperate for a girlfriend, and that may well be true, but your posts here sort of come across that way. And if it comes across to some random person on the internet that way, it just might be striking your potential matches that way as well.
My advice? Forget getting a girlfriend for right now. Like, don't even try. View it as a sort of diet break for your dating life.10 -
Geocitiesuser wrote: »pattytracking wrote: »It solved the problem of you being 130+ pounds overweight.
The silver lining. I'm much more nimble, much better stamina. I can jump, and kick, and jump kick, and I'm no longer in a heavyweight fighting class.
Sometimes I'm okay. Sometimes there are things I wanted in life that it seems I will never have. Life could have turned out worse, and I appreciate what I do have. But the cherry on top would have been.... really nice.
So aside from working out and working (?) ... what else do you do?
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I don't know hun. I think it's a mistake to think "If I was thin my life would be better". We are basically the same person, thin or fat. I admit I was rather disappointed to discover that my life is at times still the same day to day BS even though I've lost 90lbs. It didn't fix anything.
Being lonely is tough. Meeting people is tough. I don't have any answers for you, I had kids with someone I didn't love and raised them in a passive and lonely marriage. That for me was a worse kind of loneliness, spending 15 years with someone and feeling utterly alone.
It took me almost 40 years to meet the right person. I never thought it would happen. I'm glad that it has.1 -
Often times we used weight loss, and even regain weight so we can lose it again to avoid dealing with other things. It's only when I reached my goal I thought, wow! I still have days I feel fat! I still am not as social as I want to be. I am still feeling the need for more challenging work
The good thing is, if you are aware that the weight isn't all that there is to you. There is wonderful growth that can happen. I got involved in charity, I pushed myself in work, I got promotion, i got involved in groups, got in the habit to make time for friends. Some things can feel pretty scary, and you can't control as easy as the content of your dinner but the benefit of pushing myself out of my comfort zone outshine the benefits of a number on the scale.
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Congratulations on your success, you look amazing - I don't know how you're single, there must be some very blind people in your area, that's all I can say.
Anyway, I totally understand your frustrations, I lost 164lb between 2012 & 2014, but when I was 321lb I was lazy, did a sitting down job and ate whatever I wanted with no side effects (other than obesity) but now I weigh in the region of 160lb I have arthritis in my left knee and right hip, so therefore can't do too much walking; I have palpitations which started on the 12th April and I am once again off work due to the doctors signing me off until they've investigated these palpitation - but my bloods are in the best health they've ever been in and my blood pressure is on the slightly low side, but apparently that is not what's causing my palpitations; I have to follow a very strict diet (the Low FODMAP Diet) to manage my sever IBS-AR and on top of all that I have loose skin all over my body, so I sometimes wonder why I bothered ... Yes I look better in clothes (my skin looks like a deflated balloon out of clothes) and I can cycle for hours, but trying to find clothes that actually fit me is darn near impossible and I have to wear things 3 sizes too large to accommodate the excess skin, yes I can sit on garden furniture without it breaking, but my butt is so bony that I have to sit on cushions all the time (even driving my car) and yes I do feel better for the most part, but the frustration of my declining health, my struggle with clothes and my loose skin can get me down, I know I let myself get to 321lb, but I've now put that right, but I still feel like I'm being punished sometimes.
Sadly losing weight is great for the body and general health, but it can magnify our insecurities and my appearance was clearly my insecurity and it's gone from me being upset at myself for looking like a marsh mallow in clothes, to now looking like a deflated balloon character in clothes, plus I acquired health issues I never knew I had, or was developing.
But if I was to go back to 2012, I would still lose the weight and I would still put in as much effort as I do now, to be honest, I get frustrated and annoyed, but I wouldn't change my decision to lose weight - I'm still proud of my achievement thus far.0 -
OP--are you doing anything for anyone else? Getting involved with other people in new ways might break the ice.2
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VintageFeline wrote: »I'm 35 and single, have always been for the most part. 99.9% of the time I couldn't care less. I'm happy with me, both when I was obese and now I'm not. I like myself for the most part aware of the not so great bits.
People aren't attracted to people who don't like themselves.
In the words of the great philosopher Ru Paul - If you can't love yourself, how in the hell you gonna love somebody else. Can I get an amen up in here.
OH EM GEE. I LOVE RU and I say that to all my single friends who get pessimistic and down all the time!
OP- I'm 31 and single. I've been in LTRs over the years, been engaged, and been single-the grass is always greener, my friend.2 -
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Pity you don't live in Ireland
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Have you talked to a professional? It kind of seems from your first few posts that you might be dealing with some depression, and a depressed mind is really good at beating itself up. I'm not saying you're mentally unbalanced or even really seriously depressed, but it can be really hard to deal with the disappointment you get when you're living in a reality that's so much different than you imagined it would be after so much hard work. When you recognized that your body needed work in order to get you what you wanted in life you made a choice to do the work... now you've got to decide to work on getting your mind caught up. You probably had help changing your body, so why not get some help changing your mind?
It's hard to succeed when your mind is working to defeat you, and when you go into dates (or even online interactions with potential dates) with a defeated attitude it can be difficult to really project your true personality. A therapist can help you decide if you really just need to adjust the way you think about yourself, or whether you might benefit from some chemical assistance for awhile until you get back on track. Either way they can help you develop a mental or emotional workout strategy that will bring your attitude in line with your body and help you project the kind of confidence and energy that attracts other people.3 -
Geocitiesuser wrote: »You're likely very intrinsic and haven't found anyone that deals well with that yet.
I don't doubt that at all.
Thing is, while I've never been a "pimp", I've had plenty of dating and relationships growing up. Even being married at one point. Ever since I hit 30 it's been radio silence. No amount of social activities gets me introduced to anyone even remotely compatible or interested. No hundreds of emails on the personals work anymore. To be honest, I got more play at 300lbs. I'm the leanest I've been since college, and the response I get from approaching women is that I'm so homely I should be ashamed to leave my house. Being treated like a monster... is not so fun. Especially when you've been working to do everything in your power to change that.
But yeah, while I'm definitely a bit of a unique person (don't drink, don't smoke, software developer) that isn't compatible with "everyone", I used to be compatible with "some people". But now the past 6 years has been me hitting my head against the wall trying to figure out how to get someone to even speak to me long enough to find out what language I speak. Getting a hello back is like pulling teeth.... it's difficult to have things you want in a partner, when you're forced to drop your standards almost completely and still get rejected at every turn.
But, deep breath. It's sparring tonight. I'm going to spend a couple of hours trying to kick people in the head. If not for my hobbies I'd go insane, because I have no family or home life beyond them. Some guys think it would be a blessing. Ever since I got divorced almost a decade ago its felt like nothing but hell... I never got a second chance at normalcy. Just rejection.
I have ranted WAY too much, and have exposed WAY too much information at this point. I'm pretty sure this thread is going to come back and haunt me one day. :shrug:
Basically, I'm really frustrated trying so hard to lose the last 15lbs, and finding out that all of this effort is not helping to solve the only thing I really hoped it would.
Well... I'm a dude, so take this for what's it worth, but I just double checked your uploaded photos and you're definitely not homely. So I don't know why you're feeling like that.
But I will say this, forget the online dating sites. Seriously, they are frustrating and will just smash your self esteem. The guy to girl ratio is so out of whack, its ridiculous. I've heard from the girls side that they end up getting flooded with hundreds of emails, so it's not unusual to get lost in the mix. Leave your profiles up if you want, but quit chasing that route, it's depressing.
Your gym is a great place to start, since you probably know some friends there now and they probably have gotten to know you. You're probably very introverted (like me) so your main goal is to get in, get your *kitten* done and get out.
However, take a moment to see what they have going this weekend or next. Maybe they're doing to something you might be interested in. If not, maybe you could suggest something instead. Maybe a great taco place you love. Maybe watching a NBA game or a UFC event somewhere... who knows. Tell them you've been wanting to play some flag football or softball or volleyball or biking or hiking or whatever...
Meeting someone through friends of friends or meeting someone randomly while you're out with friends is a 1000% times better. Why? Because they know you and will vouch for you. Which is so much better than trying to send a cold call email to a stranger, who doesn't know the slightest thing about you, except for a short written description and a few photos.
You being introvert (if your are) is a great asset at times, especially since your software engineer. I'm also an engineer and there's days where I have to shut my door, eliminate all distractions and focus on work... And I do great with that. People who are extroverts go crazy in those situations. However, I have to force myself to interact too. I really have to make that a priority at times because it's too easy to pull away and go solo. I'm more comfortable there.
Same goes for my social life. Going to a party and standing around, making small talk with people I don't really know has virtually no appeal for me. But if I'm doing activities I like with friends, that's a whole different situation. I can be the life of the party, because I'm having fun.
Sorry so long. But I hate seeing someone who's suffering self induced negativity. Your inner voice can be so cruel sometimes. And very wrong. From the few things I've seen about you, you have a lot of qualities you can be proud of. It sounds like you have a good job, which means you're responsible and take care of yourself. You're recent weight loss shows you can make a commitment and follow up with the dedication and hard work it takes to accomplish a goal you've set for yourself.
Dude, don't sell yourself short.10 -
I've been thinking about your post a lot. I typically refrain from engaging with men who get on rejection trips, because, man, that is a deep, dark well and at the bottom is MRA tumblrs and loan wolves gone rabid and I don't even have the stomach for all of that. That said, I've seen you around here a lot, and I feel so bad that a person who tries to be helpful to others is having a hard time--so here's my two cents for what it's worth.
I'll lay it out because I would want someone to lay it out for me: I would not be interested in someone who works/spars/sleeps/repeats. Would you? Take a dance class or a cooking class or art class or film appreciation or whatever sounds fun to you. Worst case scenario: You have a great skill that will serve you and bring you enjoyment, as well as having the side effect of making you more interesting and well-rounded. Everyone loves that. Plus, you'll be outside of your usual haunts so you'll meet more people which increases your chances of meeting someone who's compatible with you. Get offline as much as possible.
All you can do is work on yourself and bring one he*l of a deal to the table. You have started, and are doing great.
You mention being treated like a monster. That doubtfully has anything to do with how you look, you look totally normal if not buffer than most. Even if you didn't--I date ugly people all the time and I'm definitely not the only one. Ugly is not a deal breaker. Thirstiness, as the kids call it now, is. Pedestal-building is. Bad self-esteem and low confidence is. If I sense I'm being perceived as a well-deserved prize for years of struggle and loneliness, I'm a plume of Roadrunner dust. I hate being treated like "The One" more than anything in the world, it doesn't make me feel special--it makes me feel uncomfortable and inauthentic and mythologized and puts pressure on me and puts me in a corner. Don't put that pressure on phantom future girlfriend--she's just a person after all.
Whatever you do, stay positive. Resist joining the MRA tumblr/bitter loan wolf crowd. You've worked hard and deserve to enjoy life, but we don't always get exactly what we want. Even more disappointingly, as you know, sometimes we do and it's not at all what we pictured, or it goes to crap over time. When you feel the whole pining, winsome "I wish I had someone" feeling crop up, recognize it and watch it pass by like a car that you're not going to get in. Think about something else--something more interesting.10 -
This:tabletop_joe wrote: »I've been thinking about your post a lot. I typically refrain from engaging with men who get on rejection trips, because, man, that is a deep, dark well and at the bottom is MRA tumblrs and loan wolves gone rabid and I don't even have the stomach for all of that.
and this:tabletop_joe wrote: »I date ugly people all the time and I'm definitely not the only one. Ugly is not a deal breaker. Thirstiness, as the kids call it now, is. Pedestal-building is. Bad self-esteem and low confidence is. If I sense I'm being perceived as a well-deserved prize for years of struggle and loneliness, I'm a plume of Roadrunner dust. I hate being treated like "The One" more than anything in the world, it doesn't make me feel special--it makes me feel uncomfortable and inauthentic and mythologized and puts pressure on me and puts me in a corner. Don't put that pressure on phantom future girlfriend--she's just a person after all.
are the truest things most of us will read on the internet today. Well said.
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I thought about this thread a lot last night because it just broke my heart. In particular for you and your feelings of brokenness, but also for all the other people who are invisible out there. You have always made intelligent comments here, you obviously like the Greek philosophers and classic Victorian poetry, and you are rocking some nice biceps, so you seem like a quality fella from what I can see.
You don't say where you are looking for women, or what you are looking for. One of the great problems is that men, naturally, tend to pursue women who are their age and younger; another problem is that with only 1/3 of Americans at a normal weight, if you are looking for someone of a particular age and matching you in your level of fitness, the competition is going to be ferocious, with every man from 18 to 75 going after that particular demographic. If you are joining the scrum of fisticuffs with all the predators and prey (and both of those apply to both sexes) it is going to be brutal.
On the other hand, if your strengths are going to shine through in a quieter corner, I would take the advice given above to join a church or a protest group, and additionally throw in: start volunteering for activities you enjoy, where there might also be a good amount of women. For example, swinging a hammer for Habitat for Humanity or building benches and bridges for an environmental group is an outstanding excuse to rock a tool belt and show off your biceps. Or you can join a biking club, running club, or sign up for a serious cooking school course to meet women who share your passion for fitness and/or home-cooked food.
Here is another idea to give you an edge, from the female perspective. We had a subscription to GQ for a decade or so, before we had kids, and I personally find it to be a very classy men's magazine with excellent sartorial and cultural advice, although it has been a few years since I read it. One thing that makes men stand out is impeccable tailoring and correct clothes--always long-sleeved dress shirts rolled up instead up short sleeved button-down shirts, for example, and beautiful but subtle ties, beautiful Italian dress shoes, etc. Beautiful, very high quality, but subtle--and avoid any sort of douchewear like the plague. Properly tailored, high quality clothes are a powerful indicator of financial success.
On a personal note, I am inexpressibly grateful I don't have to attempt to find a boyfriend or husband in this culture, that I am happily married to a man so awesome that I thank my lucky stars every day that he is my husband and the father of my children. He is a very quiet, shy, kind and gentle, tall, thin, quirky sense of humor, geeky chemist and I congratulate myself on having the intelligence to take a second look at him in high school, when his best friend told me I should go out with him, but I would have to call him and ask him out. I had a string of guys dancing like monkeys to my every whim, but he always had the integrity to call BS on any of my shenanigans, which made me respect him profoundly because he had a strong sense of who he was, and no woman was going to push him around.
As for todya's creepy culture--Having my accomplishments and humanity reduced to a left or right swipe on Tinder? NOPE! Waxing to look like my 11 year old daughter? NOPE! "Hookups" with guys whose expectations for normal behavior have been profoundly shaped by the most particularly disgusting corners of the interwebs? AW TO THE HELL NAW. I would, frankly, rather be cloistered in a nunnery, and I a) take great joy in the flesh and b) am Lutheran, so that is saying a lot. Ugh, it just makes me shudder.13 -
Bluntly put- you seem really desperate and entitled. Have you started chasing out diffferent types of women (aka unicorns) since losing weight? My guess is you have and you could still get all the play you wanted from those same types. People can sense entitlement and feeling like they're some prize for other people and it's a cringey feeling. Don't expect a unicorn if you're not a unicorn. If you're unhappy and desperate expect to attract unhappy and desperate.
I'm an average looking girl with an above average body and I'm sure I've made plenty of men feel "rejected" because I do not owe it to them to stroke their ego when I'm out. Rejection implies you are assuming you expect some level of acceptance perhaps from a complete stranger you know nothing about- strangers don't owe you acceptance and thus can't really reject you (and I'm not talking about plain rudeness- but being disinterested doesn't inherently mean a woman/man is rude). You never "deserve" another person- you have to earn them. What earns them depends on person to person- personally I'm a sucker for humor, height, being able to carry on a conversation, a man that can two step, and having enough hobbies and interests to stay busy and interesting.
TLDR: "it's difficult to have things you want in a partner, when you're forced to drop your standards almost completely and still get rejected at every turn." I have this weird feeling your version of "dropping" your standards means settling for someone who isn't absolutely perfect...2 -
Geocitiesuser wrote: »You're likely very intrinsic and haven't found anyone that deals well with that yet.
I don't doubt that at all.
Thing is, while I've never been a "pimp", I've had plenty of dating and relationships growing up. Even being married at one point. Ever since I hit 30 it's been radio silence. No amount of social activities gets me introduced to anyone even remotely compatible or interested. No hundreds of emails on the personals work anymore. To be honest, I got more play at 300lbs. I'm the leanest I've been since college, and the response I get from approaching women is that I'm so homely I should be ashamed to leave my house. Being treated like a monster... is not so fun. Especially when you've been working to do everything in your power to change that.
But yeah, while I'm definitely a bit of a unique person (don't drink, don't smoke, software developer) that isn't compatible with "everyone", I used to be compatible with "some people". But now the past 6 years has been me hitting my head against the wall trying to figure out how to get someone to even speak to me long enough to find out what language I speak. Getting a hello back is like pulling teeth.... it's difficult to have things you want in a partner, when you're forced to drop your standards almost completely and still get rejected at every turn.
But, deep breath. It's sparring tonight. I'm going to spend a couple of hours trying to kick people in the head. If not for my hobbies I'd go insane, because I have no family or home life beyond them. Some guys think it would be a blessing. Ever since I got divorced almost a decade ago its felt like nothing but hell... I never got a second chance at normalcy. Just rejection.
I have ranted WAY too much, and have exposed WAY too much information at this point. I'm pretty sure this thread is going to come back and haunt me one day. :shrug:
Basically, I'm really frustrated trying so hard to lose the last 15lbs, and finding out that all of this effort is not helping to solve the only thing I really hoped it would.
I'm impressed by all the insightful, well-thought out responses you've received on this thread. I hope it helps.
However, the bold above caught my attention. Before jumping to conclusions, would you care to elaborate? Sometimes our expectations are very high (nothing wrong with that) but looking down on people who don't meet them will surely result in rejection. Could it be you're projecting this attitude?4 -
I really didn't expect this thread to get so big, and there is no way I can reply to everyone individually. I'm going to try to summarize a whole bunch of stuff.
- Thank you to everyone who took the time to chime in
- Yes, I have tried a bunch of that stuff and do a bunch of that stuff
- No, I'm not going to take a break from dating, you can't take a break from something you're not doing. Being on the personals site isn't hurting anyone for the most part.
- Like I said, sometimes I'm fine. Being single can also be a blessing. There is no one to answer to, and I spend all of my time doing exactly what I want, when I want. So it's a double edged sword. It would just be nice to, at minimum, be able to share some of those experiences with a member of the opposite sex. Just lately, has been a struggle. I'm mostly over it. Sorta. Kinda. Maybe.
- I'm still going to get in the best shape of my life regardless of anything
I'm not sure why, I just am. At some point it's going to be "their loss" and not mine.
- Cats are better than dogs.
The last bullet point was just me causing trouble
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I can't really figure you out?
Something doesn't really sit well with me though and I can't pin point it..
But every time I've stopped looking, someone's popped up.
Get to different places if you can.
I met my now fiancé at the gym.
He was using it, I was working in it. Turns out we went school together too but weirdly never came across each other.
Just stop trying.
It will cone1
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