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Angall08
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Have any of you tried to lose weight without diet or exercise, such as taking diet pills, using body wraps, or even as crazy as freezing your body to get thin. If you have tried a different method what was it and did it help?
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If pills and body wraps worked, why would anybody use effort to lose weight?34
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You have to "diet" to lose weight...in that you have to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight. You don't have to exercise, but it helps immensely as it increases your energy expenditure and, well...it's pretty necessary for overall health and well being, particularly if you're a desk jockey or otherwise sedentary person.
A calorie is a unit of energy. You require so much energy daily...much of that requisite energy is you merely existing...then your day to day goings on and then exercise if you choose. When you consume energy (calories) that is commensurate with your requirements, you maintain weight. When you exceed energy requisites, that excess energy is stored as body fat...it's stored energy. When you consume less energy (ie you diet) than your body requires, you burn body fat (stored energy) to make up for the difference.
If all that other crap worked, nobody would be fat because it would just be super easy...it aint easy.14 -
I have tried absolutely everything that is out there at some point. Without a calorie deficit none of them cause weight loss. Unless you are eating less calories than your body needs you will not lose weight. Some of them (shakes mostly) may help you stick to the calorie deficit due to either how filling they are, but you can get the same effect from cheaper protein shakes found at most grocery or nutrition stores.6
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Bariatric surgery along with diet and exercise. Highly successful.5
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I tried Phentermine with B-12 shots and an extremely low cal diet (500 cals per day). I actually tried it TWICE. And I'm here on MFP now, so that should tell you all you need to know about that one.15
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Have any of you tried to lose weight without diet or exercise, such as taking diet pills, using body wraps, or even as crazy as freezing your body to get thin. If you have tried a different method what was it and did it help?
If you do find something that helps you lose weight without diet and/or exercise......patent it and you will make millions.
People are raking in tons of money on things that don't work.......pills, using body wraps, etc. There is no magic bullet out there.11 -
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In the US market if a product is branded as a supplement, by very definition it was not proven to be effective. Let that sink in.
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Have any of you tried to lose weight without diet or exercise, such as taking diet pills, using body wraps, or even as crazy as freezing your body to get thin. If you have tried a different method what was it and did it help?
you have to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight, period.
Wraps, pills, magical fat burners, and other woo woo does not work. The only thing those reduce is the amount of money in your wallet.7 -
So, in reality what you're really asking is 'Is there a way to lose weight that's easy and painless and requires zero effort on my part, beyond swallowing some pills?' The answer is no.24
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I'd love a tummy tuck to get rid of the stubborn belly fat I still carry at a BMI of 20, but am too poor.
I think wraps can work in the very short-term. If I had something like a special beach vacation where I wanted to look extra good in a swimsuit or was in a wedding with a particularly fitted dress, I might do a wrap right before just for a little extra help. They're not a long-term solution though.5 -
What she said ^^^^^^
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There are no effortless shortcuts.
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Have any of you tried to lose weight without diet or exercise, such as taking diet pills, using body wraps, or even as crazy as freezing your body to get thin. If you have tried a different method what was it and did it help?
From what I've read, the freeze treatment is a less invasive or non-invasive version of lipo. It's also less expensive.
I may look into it once I get near my target weight and stay there for a while.3 -
Nope.1
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NEVER. It takes hard work not a pill.3
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suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.0 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
It's really a myth that we all have different ways to lose weight. We can use different *methods* to reach a calorie deficit, but it's the calorie deficit that creates weight loss.13 -
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
Everybody is different in some ways, but in a lot of important and fundamental ways we're all the same. We all need air to breathe or we'll die. We all need to eat or we'll die. We all need a calorie deficit to lose weight.11 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
Everyone is not that different. The people that these products seem to "work" best for......are those who are selling them.
Anyone that claims to have lost weight using "super duper diet pill x" did so because they were eating at a calorie deficit. That's how ALL weight loss works.....for everyone. Calories in vs. calories out is universal.
@suzannesimmons3 makes a good point - people are here measuring and logging food. That takes an effort. We wouldn't bother making the effort if we didn't have to.5 -
I tried hydroxycut with exercise and watching what I ate. Ended up not losing but having my blood pressure become dangerously high.3
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I don't know what you guys are talking about...I used magical unicorn sparkles and lost a lot. It is just a coincidence that I carry a pocket scale in my purse and have a bag of stinky gym clothes next to my desk. Nothing to see here, move it along.
I will sell you my magical unicorn sparkles if you would like to lose weight as effortlessly as me. They come in rainbow and pink. All you have to do is BELIEVE!13 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.1 -
Question: Does freezing work because it does something to the body (e.g., causes it to jettison fat for some reason)? Or just because people burn more calories trying to maintain their body temperature?Need2Exerc1se wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.
Weight loss surgery and medical procedures, like liposuction, are the only exception I know of to the general rule that to lose weight you have to eat fewer calories and/or burn more. I don't know enough about them to say whether they're a good idea.2 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
we are all actually the same, eat in a calorie deficit and we all lose weight; eat in a calorie surplus and we all gain..
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Question: Does freezing work because it does something to the body (e.g., causes it to jettison fat for some reason)? Or just because people burn more calories trying to maintain their body temperature?Need2Exerc1se wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.
Weight loss surgery and medical procedures, like liposuction, are the only exception I know of to the general rule that to lose weight you have to eat fewer calories and/or burn more. I don't know enough about them to say whether they're a good idea.
Google Coolsculpting. Bariatric surgery actually relies on a calorie deficit. It limits the amount you can eat and forces you into a deficit. Liposuction and coolsculpting are the only methods I know of (other than having a body part removed) that cause fat loss without a deficit.4 -
French_Peasant wrote: »I don't know what you guys are talking about...I used magical unicorn sparkles and lost a lot. It is just a coincidence that I carry a pocket scale in my purse and have a bag of stinky gym clothes next to my desk. Nothing to see here, move it along.
I will sell you my magical unicorn sparkles if you would like to lose weight as effortlessly as me. They come in rainbow and pink. All you have to do is BELIEVE!
How much for the "Rainbow Magical Unicorn Sparkles?" Once my Nigerian inheritance comes in I'll be flush with money, so no price will be too high.17 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Question: Does freezing work because it does something to the body (e.g., causes it to jettison fat for some reason)? Or just because people burn more calories trying to maintain their body temperature?Need2Exerc1se wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.
Weight loss surgery and medical procedures, like liposuction, are the only exception I know of to the general rule that to lose weight you have to eat fewer calories and/or burn more. I don't know enough about them to say whether they're a good idea.
Google Coolsculpting. Bariatric surgery actually relies on a calorie deficit. It limits the amount you can eat and forces you into a deficit. Liposuction and coolsculpting are the only methods I know of (other than having a body part removed) that cause fat loss without a deficit.
There are some illegal and potentiality dangerous drugs such as DNP which cause weight loss even without a deficit.
In the presence of DNP, fat and carbohydrate in food are broken down but production of useful energy for cells is impaired and is instead released as heat. As a result, body reserves of fat and carbohydrate are mobilised and weight is lost.
Not that I tried it or fancy cataracts...2
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