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suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
Everyone is not that different. The people that these products seem to "work" best for......are those who are selling them.
Anyone that claims to have lost weight using "super duper diet pill x" did so because they were eating at a calorie deficit. That's how ALL weight loss works.....for everyone. Calories in vs. calories out is universal.
@suzannesimmons3 makes a good point - people are here measuring and logging food. That takes an effort. We wouldn't bother making the effort if we didn't have to.5 -
I tried hydroxycut with exercise and watching what I ate. Ended up not losing but having my blood pressure become dangerously high.3
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I don't know what you guys are talking about...I used magical unicorn sparkles and lost a lot. It is just a coincidence that I carry a pocket scale in my purse and have a bag of stinky gym clothes next to my desk. Nothing to see here, move it along.
I will sell you my magical unicorn sparkles if you would like to lose weight as effortlessly as me. They come in rainbow and pink. All you have to do is BELIEVE!13 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.
Weight loss surgery and medical procedures, like liposuction, are the only exception I know of to the general rule that to lose weight you have to eat fewer calories and/or burn more. I don't know enough about them to say whether they're a good idea.2 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
we are all actually the same, eat in a calorie deficit and we all lose weight; eat in a calorie surplus and we all gain..
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.
Weight loss surgery and medical procedures, like liposuction, are the only exception I know of to the general rule that to lose weight you have to eat fewer calories and/or burn more. I don't know enough about them to say whether they're a good idea.
Google Coolsculpting. Bariatric surgery actually relies on a calorie deficit. It limits the amount you can eat and forces you into a deficit. Liposuction and coolsculpting are the only methods I know of (other than having a body part removed) that cause fat loss without a deficit.4 -
French_Peasant wrote: »I don't know what you guys are talking about...I used magical unicorn sparkles and lost a lot. It is just a coincidence that I carry a pocket scale in my purse and have a bag of stinky gym clothes next to my desk. Nothing to see here, move it along.
I will sell you my magical unicorn sparkles if you would like to lose weight as effortlessly as me. They come in rainbow and pink. All you have to do is BELIEVE!
How much for the "Rainbow Magical Unicorn Sparkles?" Once my Nigerian inheritance comes in I'll be flush with money, so no price will be too high.17 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.
Weight loss surgery and medical procedures, like liposuction, are the only exception I know of to the general rule that to lose weight you have to eat fewer calories and/or burn more. I don't know enough about them to say whether they're a good idea.
Google Coolsculpting. Bariatric surgery actually relies on a calorie deficit. It limits the amount you can eat and forces you into a deficit. Liposuction and coolsculpting are the only methods I know of (other than having a body part removed) that cause fat loss without a deficit.
There are some illegal and potentiality dangerous drugs such as DNP which cause weight loss even without a deficit.
In the presence of DNP, fat and carbohydrate in food are broken down but production of useful energy for cells is impaired and is instead released as heat. As a result, body reserves of fat and carbohydrate are mobilised and weight is lost.
Not that I tried it or fancy cataracts...2 -
Hawaiian_Iceberg wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.
Weight loss surgery and medical procedures, like liposuction, are the only exception I know of to the general rule that to lose weight you have to eat fewer calories and/or burn more. I don't know enough about them to say whether they're a good idea.
Google Coolsculpting. Bariatric surgery actually relies on a calorie deficit. It limits the amount you can eat and forces you into a deficit. Liposuction and coolsculpting are the only methods I know of (other than having a body part removed) that cause fat loss without a deficit.
There are some illegal and potentiality dangerous drugs such as DNP which cause weight loss even without a deficit.
In the presence of DNP, fat and carbohydrate in food are broken down but production of useful energy for cells is impaired and is instead released as heat. As a result, body reserves of fat and carbohydrate are mobilised and weight is lost.
Not that I tried it or fancy cataracts...
Interesting. Never heard of that.1 -
Hawaiian_Iceberg wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »suzannesimmons3 wrote: »You're asking on a diet and excersise site......seriously what do you think.
I was simply asking if it's ever worked for other people. I personally don't think it works but everyone is different. I haven't tried other stuff but other people have.
The answers saying you must be in a deficit to lose weight are incorrect. Freezing does cause weight loss without diet or exercise, as does liposuction. These things destroy or remove fat cells from your body causing you to lose fat without being in a calorie deficit. They are not magic, they are clinical procedures and they do work.
Weight loss surgery and medical procedures, like liposuction, are the only exception I know of to the general rule that to lose weight you have to eat fewer calories and/or burn more. I don't know enough about them to say whether they're a good idea.
Google Coolsculpting. Bariatric surgery actually relies on a calorie deficit. It limits the amount you can eat and forces you into a deficit. Liposuction and coolsculpting are the only methods I know of (other than having a body part removed) that cause fat loss without a deficit.
There are some illegal and potentiality dangerous drugs such as DNP which cause weight loss even without a deficit.
In the presence of DNP, fat and carbohydrate in food are broken down but production of useful energy for cells is impaired and is instead released as heat. As a result, body reserves of fat and carbohydrate are mobilised and weight is lost.
Not that I tried it or fancy cataracts...
Is that the one people have died from by essentially "cooking" themselves from the inside?3 -
I haven't but the Kim Khardashian method of catching the flu to knock off 6lbs is tempting.....2
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moonstroller wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »I don't know what you guys are talking about...I used magical unicorn sparkles and lost a lot. It is just a coincidence that I carry a pocket scale in my purse and have a bag of stinky gym clothes next to my desk. Nothing to see here, move it along.
I will sell you my magical unicorn sparkles if you would like to lose weight as effortlessly as me. They come in rainbow and pink. All you have to do is BELIEVE!
How much for the "Rainbow Magical Unicorn Sparkles?" Once my Nigerian inheritance comes in I'll be flush with money, so no price will be too high.
I'll put together a "friends and family" deal just for you. Coincidentally, you can also decorate frosted cookies with them. Magical, as I said.4 -
I lost weight puking (not intentional) and not being able to eat, all while laying in bed because I was so weak... Does that count? That's my "secret". I wouldn't suggest going this route. Go with the unicorn sparkles, sounds much more appealing.3
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My mother once told me that when she was young some doctors gave tape worms in a capsule. You swallowed it, lost weight over time, then they treated the tape worm. I'm not desperate enough to infect myself with a parasite - yet.2
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LadyLilion wrote: »My mother once told me that when she was young some doctors gave tape worms in a capsule. You swallowed it, lost weight over time, then they treated the tape worm. I'm not desperate enough to infect myself with a parasite - yet.
Wow really?! I honestly thought this was an urban legend!1 -
BurlzGettingFit wrote: »LadyLilion wrote: »My mother once told me that when she was young some doctors gave tape worms in a capsule. You swallowed it, lost weight over time, then they treated the tape worm. I'm not desperate enough to infect myself with a parasite - yet.
Wow really?! I honestly thought this was an urban legend!
There were/are some really bizarre weight loss methods.....
Tongue patches, cotton balls, HCG, ear stapling, nicotine. Anything for a buck.0 -
You will find that most legal weight loss products say in the small print... "along with diet and exercise". Guess what's actually causing the weight loss?
Also, there's a bit of psychology involved. Once someone shells out the money for all these products, they are more focused on seeing results, so subconsciously they pay more attention to... diet and exercise. They give credit to the wrap, or the green tea extract, or the PH water, but what they don't realize is that once there was $$$ on the line, they actually focused on eating less and moving more. Which is what actually caused the weight loss.9 -
You will find that most legal weight loss products say in the small print... "along with diet and exercise". Guess what's actually causing the weight loss?
Also, there's a bit of psychology involved. Once someone shells out the money for all these products, they are more focused on seeing results, so subconsciously they pay more attention to... diet and exercise. They give credit to the wrap, or the green tea extract, or the PH water, but what they don't realize is that once there was $$$ on the line, they actually focused on eating less and moving more. Which is what actually caused the weight loss.
[runs back to put diet/exercise disclosure in the 50 pages on fine print on Magical Unicorn Sparkles(TM) (All Rights Reserved)]8 -
Is this your slick way of asking if any of us are cocaine or meth dealers?...5
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