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Culking Bishes!!! Winter2016 / Spring 2017
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Interesting. I had been debating TLS or BLS. It sounds like TLS might have a little more lower body work and BLS might have a little more upper body work?
I am also doing the 4 day split:
Chest/Triceps/Calves
Back/Butt/Biceps/ABS
Shoulders/Calves
Legs/Butt/ABS
It has me doing squats twice a week. Deadlift once, but RDL the next time. I am going to do it as written for the first 8 weeks. If I feel like I am not progressing I might just add a bench press to shoulder/calves day. I am tapped out for any gains on bench from my previous program so I really do need to do something different.
@Gallowmere1984 - Truly awesome deltoids!
I really need to finish reading TLS. It does appear TLS is more lower focus and BLS is more upper focus.
I was just thinking, one thing that you can do is switch the accessory days. So on Chest days, do the shoulder accessories. And on the Shoulder days, do chest accessories. When I worked with Sidesteel on his version of the Wendler program, we did this.
BLS is set up like
Chest/Calves
Back/Biceps/Abs
Upper Chest/Shoulders/Calves
Legs/Abs
I also wonder if this is addressed in Beyond BLS.0 -
I really need to finish reading TLS. It does appear TLS is more lower focus and BLS is more upper focus.
I was just thinking, one thing that you can do is switch the accessory days. So on Chest days, do the shoulder accessories. And on the Shoulder days, do chest accessories. When I worked with Sidesteel on his version of the Wendler program, we did this.
BLS is set up like
Chest/Calves
Back/Biceps/Abs
Upper Chest/Shoulders/Calves
Legs/Abs
I also wonder if this is addressed in Beyond BLS.
Beyond BLS is more focused on periodizing training, undulating volumes, periodized nutrition, etc. It's meant to kind of be a bit of a guide through the often frustrating early intermediate phase. The newbie gains are gone, but it hasn't been long enough in the game for most people to wrap their head around plateaus and stalls, etc.
The average lifespan in strength training is something like 3-5 years, which makes sense as that's where progress slows to a crawl and most people either spin their wheels aimlessly, or quit altogether. BBLS is meant to help through that stage.0 -
Looking awesome @Gallowmere1984 !1
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
Beyond BLS is more focused on periodizing training, undulating volumes, periodized nutrition, etc. It's meant to kind of be a bit of a guide through the often frustrating early intermediate phase. The newbie gains are gone, but it hasn't been long enough in the game for most people to wrap their head around plateaus and stalls, etc.
The average lifespan in strength training is something like 3-5 years, which makes sense as that's where progress slows to a crawl and most people either spin their wheels aimlessly, or quit altogether. BBLS is meant to help through that stage.
Good to know.0 -
I really need to finish reading TLS. It does appear TLS is more lower focus and BLS is more upper focus.
I was just thinking, one thing that you can do is switch the accessory days. So on Chest days, do the shoulder accessories. And on the Shoulder days, do chest accessories. When I worked with Sidesteel on his version of the Wendler program, we did this.
BLS is set up like
Chest/Calves
Back/Biceps/Abs
Upper Chest/Shoulders/Calves
Legs/Abs
I also wonder if this is addressed in Beyond BLS.
That is a fantastic idea! That Sidesteel guy is so smart!
I am still going to try it as written for the first 8 weeks and switch to that if I am having trouble progressing.0 -
Looking awesome @Gallowmere1984 !
Thank ya. I never look at myself flexed, so I had no idea that my shoulders had started to look halfway decent. I'll be pretty interested to see how everything looks once I've gotten to November and cut to my weight class for the meet.1 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
Beyond BLS is more focused on periodizing training, undulating volumes, periodized nutrition, etc. It's meant to kind of be a bit of a guide through the often frustrating early intermediate phase. The newbie gains are gone, but it hasn't been long enough in the game for most people to wrap their head around plateaus and stalls, etc.
The average lifespan in strength training is something like 3-5 years, which makes sense as that's where progress slows to a crawl and most people either spin their wheels aimlessly, or quit altogether. BBLS is meant to help through that stage.
I had no idea that was the average lifespan of a lifter. Herm- I have been lifting since I was a child honestly-but I started in college and have never lost my love. I find it odd people would obsess fro 3-5 years and give up. I started seriously training (programatically to increase lifts) almost exactly 5 years ago when I got my new job with the State which equaled reliable hours- and consistent training- otherwise I was just lifting to lift to maintain while I worked a *kitten* construction job.
interesting- I learn new things all the time.
Also #teambenchallthetime- Sheiko has me benching a metric fkton every week- 3 days. it's a lot.0 -
I guess I look at lifting a bit differently. I want to maintain muscle and bone mass as well as fitness as I age, not necessarily improve on lifts over the years. That way, I don't feel as though I'm spinning my wheels or stalling.4
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DancingMoosie wrote: »I guess I look at lifting a bit differently. I want to maintain muscle and bone mass as well as fitness as I age, not necessarily improve on lifts over the years. That way, I don't feel as though I'm spinning my wheels or stalling.
That's definitely a fair point of view, and I honestly think that the majority of dropouts would stay with it if they shared this. However, I also don't know many people, other than perhaps the elderly who start working out primarily to get back some semblance of a functional life, who would share it.
I am personally very performance driven, and the "look better, feel better" is just a bonus. However, I also accept that there will come a time when I am no longer adding ten pounds to my deadlift every week. This is all allowing me to approach things in a very "controlled aggressive" manner. I want to find the limits of my body, but I'd also rather not utterly destroy it in the process.1 -
I just already do so much, I think I would drive myself crazy if I always had to "one up" or compete with myself. I also come from a competitive gymnastics and dance background and know I'm never getting that sort of body/strength/flexibility/ coordination back. I'm not competing, just living my life and getting older.3
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DancingMoosie wrote: »I just already do so much, I think I would drive myself crazy if I always had to "one up" or compete with myself. I also come from a competitive gymnastics and dance background and know I'm never getting that sort of body/strength/flexibility/ coordination back. I'm not competing, just living my life and getting older.
If anything, I'd say it's pretty damned admirable that you were able to transition into "let's keep this together" mode after coming from a competitive background. Hell, I'd much rather see someone who maintains your attitude, over all of the "I used to squat (insert likely BS amount here)" coming from the mouths of people who now have what look like packs of hotdogs on the back of their necks.2 -
Interesting. I had been debating TLS or BLS. It sounds like TLS might have a little more lower body work and BLS might have a little more upper body work?
I am also doing the 4 day split:
Chest/Triceps/Calves
Back/Butt/Biceps/ABS
Shoulders/Calves
Legs/Butt/ABS
It has me doing squats twice a week. Deadlift once, but RDL the next time. I am going to do it as written for the first 8 weeks. If I feel like I am not progressing I might just add a bench press to shoulder/calves day. I am tapped out for any gains on bench from my previous program so I really do need to do something different.
@Gallowmere1984 - Truly awesome deltoids!
Ditto, Gallowmere!
It's funny how different perceptions can be. I learned on TLS. I didn't know until I joined MFP a year ago that a five-day split isn't a normal starting point. My schedule changed (it's my husband's turn for the year to go to the gym 3 weekday mornings, so I only have 4 days available to me for weight training) a few months ago and I switched to A Workout Routine's Upper/Lower split. At first I liked it, but I think that was just the newness of it. I just switched back to a 4 day split because I didn't feel like any body part except legs was getting enough attention.
I'm going to keep this for the summer and then try my hand at BLS over the winter.0 -
@DancingMoosie I think you asked me about my Old Navy jean leggings?
I totally put together a picture for you- and now I can't get it to the computer. LOL womp womp- why MFP won't let you load pictures off your phone into a thread yet is beyond me.0 -
@DancingMoosie I think you asked me about my Old Navy jean leggings?
I totally put together a picture for you- and now I can't get it to the computer. LOL womp womp- why MFP won't let you load pictures off your phone into a thread yet is beyond me.
You can. In fact, it's the only way I do it 0 -
I know these 3 pounds I am up are pre-TOM pounds. I do not suck this bad at cutting. (Just talking myself down over here. Don't mind me.)0
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@DancingMoosie I think you asked me about my Old Navy jean leggings?
I totally put together a picture for you- and now I can't get it to the computer. LOL womp womp- why MFP won't let you load pictures off your phone into a thread yet is beyond me.
Idk how to load them to a thread, but it's easy to do in your status update. I don't think I'm on your friends list...0 -
how? I can see it on the computer you can select a file (finally) used to be photobucket only!!!
but I'm not seeing it on my mobile.0 -
Tonights dinner.
Jorocka, there is a camera next to the smiley icon. Click that. You can select choose file.0 -
i definitely do not have a camera next to my smile face.
A B and I and a Paragraph symble- and a smile face.
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2 cups of spinach, 130g of black beans, 90g of corn, 75g of avocado, 14g of cheese, 4 tbsp of salsa, 2 tbsp of ranch, one roma tomato, 45g of basmati rice (with lime, salt and parsley - very similar to the chipotle rice). I was going to add some chicken, but I didn't have any unfrozen and i was too lazy to unfreeze it.
And the bowl is something like 14". So it's a ton of volume.2 -
2 cups of spinach, 130g of black beans, 90g of corn, 75g of avocado, 14g of cheese, 4 tbsp of salsa, 2 tbsp of ranch, one roma tomato, 45g of basmati rice (with lime, salt and parsley - very similar to the chipotle rice). I was going to add some chicken, but I didn't have any unfrozen and i was too lazy to unfreeze it.
And the bowl is something like 14". So it's a ton of volume.
Oh! That sounds pretty tasty!1 -
Any other ladies find the scale only moves like two weeks out of the month? That seems to be my trend lately..2
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yeah- let me see if I can get it on my work computer and load it from my desk top. I have it there.
Can you screenshot your reply box?TresaAswegan wrote: »Any other ladies find the scale only moves like two weeks out of the month? That seems to be my trend lately..
yes- slow- so very slow. And I can see it more than I can see the scale. super annoying.
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there ya go- unless I'm totally mental.. I'm not seeing it.
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holy giant picture batman. WTF.0
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I'll have to take the time this summer to really sit down and read the book and make sure that I understand it. Except for my brief Upper/Lower split stint I've been strictly 3 sets, 8 reps.0
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