Cutting Sugar From my Diet entirely
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lemurcat12 wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »GlassslippersAndFairyDust wrote: »I find when I cut refined sugar out of my diet my cravings completely disappear. I never cut out fruits. I don't eat ketchup (before anyone jumps on that wagon). So IMHO it does make a difference. Don't know the science.....don't care. Just know it works for me. Also, I have an easier time shedding belly fat without refined sugar. Don't know the science, don't care....works for me. Do you and if it makes you crave less, lose more....whatever....just do you.
If only more people here took the approach of suggesting and OP make their own decisions and give their views a try, me might have less "but why cut out (whatever) threads"!
Especially if one, like the poster you quoted, misreads the OP to be about exactly what one has decided is helpful for oneself!
I didn't notice anyone telling OP that he absolutely must not cut out sugars from vegetables, but simply reminding him that it's not just cutting out fruit and sweets and lattes, that sugar is in a LOT of whole foods. Personally, if he wants to, whatever.As for all the comments from other posters about hidden sugars, logging and label reading is a great way to find them.
Gosh, just like all the people saying it's not hidden, it's on the label were recommending -- reading labels is always a good idea, and if you log it's impossible to claim hidden sugar (and then check out the various sources if one wishes -- that is what I do if surprised, but so far it's rare, the most surprising things to me have been some whole foods like leeks and blueberries (amount, not that they had it), nothing with added sugar, but then I've pretty much always read labels).BBQ sauce is one thing in particular where I wish there were more options lower in sugar.
You can make your own, although w/o sugar of any sort it might not count as real BBQ sauce under any of the standard styles (I am not savvy enough about BBQ to know if that's so). But again I think most people would expect a BBQ sauce to have some sugar, and the amount of sugar added varies quite a bit (I know this, because recently I was wondering if any might fit into my current macros and I looked through a bunch of different ones at Plum Market -- some weren't all that high, but as I expected none would work for me currently, bought some salsa for lazy nights when I don't want to make my own sauce, instead--one of the Frontera ones, 2 TBSP and 2 g carbs, <1 g sugar).
I think most of the commercial brands are Kansas City style...which are very sweet tomato based sauces. There are styles that are vinegar based that have little or no sugar. They use that type in North Carolina often. I don't know of any brands, or if you would need to make your own. There are also mustard style sauces, but I've never tried this type so don't know how much sugar is added (if any). Bottom line, I think there are many regional variations, and not all are sweet. But overall, most Americans are used to the sweet kind.
I actually looked at Carolina style because I thought it would be lower, but it was too high for my current goal. I can work with a dry rub anyway (and I do specifically like Memphis style for ribs, since I don't like messy anyway) -- I normally make up my own thing when doing pulled pork with spices and maybe some ACV. I was just curious since I was in a store with a lot of less common options (Plum Market is like WF on steroids) what would be available. Got some avocado oil aioli in addition to the salsa.
Most BBQ dry rubs contain sugar also. It's an essential element to create the "bark"/crust on ribs, pork shoulder, etc. when it caramelizes in the Maillard Reaction. I mean, you can certainly cook BBQ without it, but it's just not the same.
I always do my ribs Memphis style (dry rub, sauce on the side when they're served), but every rub I use has sugar in it - usually as one of the first three or four ingredients in the list.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »GlassslippersAndFairyDust wrote: »I find when I cut refined sugar out of my diet my cravings completely disappear. I never cut out fruits. I don't eat ketchup (before anyone jumps on that wagon). So IMHO it does make a difference. Don't know the science.....don't care. Just know it works for me. Also, I have an easier time shedding belly fat without refined sugar. Don't know the science, don't care....works for me. Do you and if it makes you crave less, lose more....whatever....just do you.
If only more people here took the approach of suggesting and OP make their own decisions and give their views a try, me might have less "but why cut out (whatever) threads"!
Especially if one, like the poster you quoted, misreads the OP to be about exactly what one has decided is helpful for oneself!
I didn't notice anyone telling OP that he absolutely must not cut out sugars from vegetables, but simply reminding him that it's not just cutting out fruit and sweets and lattes, that sugar is in a LOT of whole foods. Personally, if he wants to, whatever.As for all the comments from other posters about hidden sugars, logging and label reading is a great way to find them.
Gosh, just like all the people saying it's not hidden, it's on the label were recommending -- reading labels is always a good idea, and if you log it's impossible to claim hidden sugar (and then check out the various sources if one wishes -- that is what I do if surprised, but so far it's rare, the most surprising things to me have been some whole foods like leeks and blueberries (amount, not that they had it), nothing with added sugar, but then I've pretty much always read labels).BBQ sauce is one thing in particular where I wish there were more options lower in sugar.
You can make your own, although w/o sugar of any sort it might not count as real BBQ sauce under any of the standard styles (I am not savvy enough about BBQ to know if that's so). But again I think most people would expect a BBQ sauce to have some sugar, and the amount of sugar added varies quite a bit (I know this, because recently I was wondering if any might fit into my current macros and I looked through a bunch of different ones at Plum Market -- some weren't all that high, but as I expected none would work for me currently, bought some salsa for lazy nights when I don't want to make my own sauce, instead--one of the Frontera ones, 2 TBSP and 2 g carbs, <1 g sugar).
I think most of the commercial brands are Kansas City style...which are very sweet tomato based sauces. There are styles that are vinegar based that have little or no sugar. They use that type in North Carolina often. I don't know of any brands, or if you would need to make your own. There are also mustard style sauces, but I've never tried this type so don't know how much sugar is added (if any). Bottom line, I think there are many regional variations, and not all are sweet. But overall, most Americans are used to the sweet kind.
I actually looked at Carolina style because I thought it would be lower, but it was too high for my current goal. I can work with a dry rub anyway (and I do specifically like Memphis style for ribs, since I don't like messy anyway) -- I normally make up my own thing when doing pulled pork with spices and maybe some ACV. I was just curious since I was in a store with a lot of less common options (Plum Market is like WF on steroids) what would be available. Got some avocado oil aioli in addition to the salsa.
Most BBQ dry rubs contain sugar also. It's an essential element to create the "bark"/crust on ribs, pork shoulder, etc. when it caramelizes in the Maillard Reaction. I mean, you can certainly cook BBQ without it, but it's just not the same.
I always do my ribs Memphis style (dry rub, sauce on the side when they're served), but every rub I use has sugar in it - usually as one of the first three or four ingredients in the list.
Yeah, I realize that. I don't do BBQ for my pulled pork and do make up my own dry rub, but I have a couple of commercial ones that have sugar in them. My pulled pork is good, but the standard way I do it is by no means going to be really like BBQ, so not adding sugar makes no difference (I'm not anti adding sugar, which this is sounding like -- it was all just a digression because someone was talking about BBQ and I'd just looked at some on a whim, as it's not something I normally use much).
The comment about Memphis style was not meant to suggest it did not have sugar, but was just an aside.0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Start reasonably and cut refined sugars for 2 weeks and see how you feel. Make sure you are not replacing with a bunch of artificial sweeteners. Due to a health issue I had to cut refined sugars but still use honey agave and natural sugars in fruits and vegetables. My goal is to stay under 30g a day. Think that is about as close as I can get to "no sugar" and eat a complete diet. (2100 cal/day)
How would cutting refined sugar help a health issue if you are replacing it with natural sugar?
Your body doesn't care where it comes from. Sugar is sugar.
Your body does care.
Refined sugar is broken down by the body differently than natural occouring sugars. Refined sugars are made of bonded sucrose and glucose and when they are processed by the body it dramatically increases insulin production. Or in my case fuel for bacteria production. Consuming 30g +/- of sugar daily is pretty low considering a 12oz can of coke contains 40g.
Got a link to some science on that?
1) Refined sugar (table sugar, also called sucrose) is made of glucose and fructose. Guess what honey is made of? Glucose and fructose. Guess what high fructose corn syrup is made of? You guessed it - glucose and fructose.
2) The body digests/metabolizes all sugars (refined or natural) into monosaccharides (chiefly glucose), regardless of their source. Sugar is sugar.
How your body metabolises naturally occurring sugars is different from how it metabolises artificial or processed/refined sugars. They did a study of artificial honey versus natural honey where the artificial honey had exact same ratio of glucose to fructose molecules. What they found was that the body treated the two honeys significantly differently. Too, in studies of the Kuna people who get the majority of their calories from fruit, there are no sugar related diseases and their body mass remains lean. Further studies have shown that the same molecules of sugar are processed differently...for example the fructose eaten with fruit was processed differently from HFCS...and actually that pure fructose was toxic.
https://chriskresser.com/is-all-sugar-created-equal/
You're citing a quack....... try citing peer reviewed scientific literature. What's next Drs Oz & Mercola.......6 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »For those later in the discussion focused on the evils of added sugar and so-called hidden sugar, I do have a question. Like I said, I gave it up for a while as an experiment (at the time I was trying to avoid non homemade stuff in general, so it was pretty easy). I've returned to cutting out sugary foods a couple of times, because for me doing that from time to time seems to help me moderate (I think for some it can have an opposite effect or no helpful effect, so I avoid assuming that because this helps me that it is something others should do).
Anyway, when I've returned to it, I haven't bothered about eliminating added sugar 100% since I know for me the issue is more sweets and my control with them. I don't add sugar or honey or syrup to stuff, but I don't bother eliminating something like sriracha, where sugar is the second ingredient, but where there's 1 gram (or less) of sugar per tsp, and serving size in reality might be bigger than that, but isn't huge given that it's quite spicy (and I am someone who actually does usually use sauces in their serving size or less). So for those who insist that added sugar and inherent sugar are 100% different and cutting out all added sugar is important for health, I'm curious how you think that leaving in the sriracha is harmful. Or even something like a BBQ sauce (I also don't care for super sweet ones, but they all will have some added sugar). I'm assuming here that one would use it on occasion, in a reasonable serving, not coat it on all foods at all meals (although inherent in the coating it on foods is that you are consuming it with other foods and protein and fat and fiber specifically).
(Aside, the sriracha fits fine in my current low carb macros.)
Sriracha is also known as "Thai ketchup"
And speaking of Thai foods, most (if not all) of my savory Thai recipes include sugar as an ingredient. At first I thought this was weird, and eliminated or reduced it, but have since learned that in Thai cuisine sugar is essential for balancing the salt, sour, and spice.
Indeed, the art of Thai cooking is combining ingredients at opposite ends of the flavor spectrum–chile paste and coconut milk, palm sugar and lime juice–and balancing them to create vibrantly flavored food.2 -
paperpudding wrote: »Too, in studies of the Kuna people who get the majority of their calories from fruit, there are no sugar related diseases and their body mass remains lean.
I had not heard of the Kuna people so i looked them up - they are an indiginous people of Panama and Colombia.
I expect they lived a traditional lifestyle, consuming far more whole foods and far less calories and being far more active than the average person in modern western countries - hence, surprise surprise
- they tend to be leaner.
I would think that is far more likely explanation than simply their diet is high in fruit.
I spent several months in south Costa Rica, near the Panama border. I ate tons of fruit, and lost weight without intending to. Of course, I was active, and eating no calorie-dense ultra-processed foods.
The Guaymi indigenous people near us did indeed live a traditional, active lifestyle, and none I met were overweight. Presumably they did eat a lot of fruit, as you couldn't swing an iguana without hitting some. Their portions of meat would be considered small by Americans.1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »For those later in the discussion focused on the evils of added sugar and so-called hidden sugar, I do have a question. Like I said, I gave it up for a while as an experiment (at the time I was trying to avoid non homemade stuff in general, so it was pretty easy). I've returned to cutting out sugary foods a couple of times, because for me doing that from time to time seems to help me moderate (I think for some it can have an opposite effect or no helpful effect, so I avoid assuming that because this helps me that it is something others should do).
Anyway, when I've returned to it, I haven't bothered about eliminating added sugar 100% since I know for me the issue is more sweets and my control with them. I don't add sugar or honey or syrup to stuff, but I don't bother eliminating something like sriracha, where sugar is the second ingredient, but where there's 1 gram (or less) of sugar per tsp, and serving size in reality might be bigger than that, but isn't huge given that it's quite spicy (and I am someone who actually does usually use sauces in their serving size or less). So for those who insist that added sugar and inherent sugar are 100% different and cutting out all added sugar is important for health, I'm curious how you think that leaving in the sriracha is harmful. Or even something like a BBQ sauce (I also don't care for super sweet ones, but they all will have some added sugar). I'm assuming here that one would use it on occasion, in a reasonable serving, not coat it on all foods at all meals (although inherent in the coating it on foods is that you are consuming it with other foods and protein and fat and fiber specifically).
(Aside, the sriracha fits fine in my current low carb macros.)
Sriracha is also known as "Thai ketchup"
The history is similar -- they both come from the same precursor sauces, I believe, if you read the wiki on ketchup I posted above. So I am not surprised.And speaking of Thai foods, most (if not all) of my savory Thai recipes include sugar as an ingredient. At first I thought this was weird, and eliminated or reduced it, but have since learned that in Thai cuisine sugar is essential for balancing the salt, sour, and spice.
Indeed, the art of Thai cooking is combining ingredients at opposite ends of the flavor spectrum–chile paste and coconut milk, palm sugar and lime juice–and balancing them to create vibrantly flavored food.
Interesting and makes total sense.0 -
I have cut out fructose and sucrose entirely for over a month now. I eat meat, cheese, and vegetables. It has definitely helped in my weight loss because I am very rarely hungry and don't have the carb energy roller coaster.1
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I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
I won't read through all 5 pages but you'll notice a few things:
1) Almost everything has sugar in it. Sauces are the worst. Ketchup? Yup. Teriyaki sauce? Lots. Bread? You betcha. Reading labels is important.
2) You'll have headaches, cravings and withdrawls like a MF. This is the hardest piece.
The only sources of sugar I have are from sugar alcohols (which aren't absorbed into our bodies anyway) and whatever is in veggies, which are very small amounts depending on the veg.
If you're going to have sugar at least stick to eating it as a fruit (not blended or juiced) because at least you're also getting fiber and vitamins with it. Cutting out Fraps, sodas and all forms of high fructose syrups would be a start.0 -
I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...5 -
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
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peckchris3267 wrote: »
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
So what's wrong with something being "essentially sugar"?5 -
If you are trying to lose weight any form of sugar is a bad idea. It will give you a crash which will leave you craving more. It also puts you on an energy roller coaster. Sugar also burn off quickly and leave you hungry. Protein and fat keep you full for much longer with a consistent energy level.janejellyroll wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
So what's wrong with something being "essentially sugar"?
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peckchris3267 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar.
It's not "essentially sugar," it IS sugar, one of the sugars that is in fruit in various percentages depending on the fruit, yes.
That doesn't make cutting fruit a good idea in general. Maybe for individuals, sure.No real need to eliminate vegetables.
What NEED is there for people in general to ELIMINATE fruit, or dairy, or sweet potatoes, or sriracha, or gelato, for that matter (focusing on foods that have sugar for the purpose of this discussion).I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.
I don't understand how people do that without cutting back on vegetables quite a bit. Last Thursday was my lowest carb day yet, and I still had 31 g carbs from vegetables, and I would normally eat more vegetables. I understand why it might be beneficial to a particular individual to do super low carb, I suppose (although cutting vegetables always seems to me to suggest that one is demonizing carbs or sugar to a questionable degree), but I don't see how you can try to suggest that it's healthier in general to keep carbs so low even if it means cutting down on vegetables or even cutting out/down on foods that contribute positively to many people's diets, such as nuts, dairy, fruit, legumes, and other whole food carbs. I like low carbing, so understand why you personally might choose to keep carbs low and get nutrients in other ways, but it's not like a diet without those foods is inherently healthier than a diet with those things -- again, they contribute positively to many people's diets. Nutrition is not at all about just keeping sugar as low as possible, and for most people there's no reason to keep sugar as low as possible.6 -
peckchris3267 wrote: »
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
Oh give me a friggin' break...there's nothing wrong with a couple servings of fruit daily...they are packed with vitamins and minerals, not to mention antioxidants. The sugar fear mongering is out of control when people are afraid of friggin' fruit...lame! Fruit is nutritious and good for you and nothing better IMO after a nice long ride or before a good lifting session.
Also vegetables have sugar so if the OP wants to eliminate all sugar, he has to eliminate vegetables as well...16 -
peckchris3267 wrote: »
If you are trying to lose weight any form of sugar is a bad idea. It will give you a crash which will leave you craving more. It also puts you on an energy roller coaster. Sugar also burn off quickly and leave you hungry. Protein and fat keep you full for much longer with a consistent energy level.janejellyroll wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
So what's wrong with something being "essentially sugar"?
This is not true for everyone. It may be true for you, but you should not generalize it to everyone.
Fruit has never, not once, given me a crash, even when I've eaten lots of it. (I ate an insane amount of clementines over Christmas when visiting my parents. I also ate a good bit of fruit when losing weight from time to time.)6 -
peckchris3267 wrote: »
If you are trying to lose weight any form of sugar is a bad idea. It will give you a crash which will leave you craving more. It also puts you on an energy roller coaster. Sugar also burn off quickly and leave you hungry. Protein and fat keep you full for much longer with a consistent energy level.janejellyroll wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
So what's wrong with something being "essentially sugar"?
My 130+lb loss, without hunger, cravings, or energy roller coasters, while consuming sugar, disagrees with your opinion of hunger, cravings, satiation, and energy roller coasters.15 -
peckchris3267 wrote: »
If you are trying to lose weight any form of sugar is a bad idea. It will give you a crash which will leave you craving more. It also puts you on an energy roller coaster. Sugar also burn off quickly and leave you hungry. Protein and fat keep you full for much longer with a consistent energy level.janejellyroll wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
So what's wrong with something being "essentially sugar"?
This simply isn't true for everyone. Maybe for you... Definitely not for me. Blanket statements in nutrition are rarely true.8 -
peckchris3267 wrote: »
If you are trying to lose weight any form of sugar is a bad idea. It will give you a crash which will leave you craving more. It also puts you on an energy roller coaster. Sugar also burn off quickly and leave you hungry. Protein and fat keep you full for much longer with a consistent energy level.janejellyroll wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
So what's wrong with something being "essentially sugar"?
Interesting...I magically lost 40 Lbs eating a couple servings of fruit per day and have maintained that more or less for over four years.
I never experienced any crashing or roller coaster energy or any of the other nonsense that gets preached on by the keto community. A couple servings of fruit per day doesn't prevent me from getting quite a bit of protein and a healthy amount of fat...and I eat around 400-600 grams of veg.8 -
Incorrect. Losing weight is just a matter of calorie deficit. Even with sugar in the diet. You're just basically advocating a keto diet and that's fine, but stating sugar as "bad" for weight loss is misleading. Lots of people have done it with it in their diet.peckchris3267 wrote: »
If you are trying to lose weight any form of sugar is a bad idea. It will give you a crash which will leave you craving more. It also puts you on an energy roller coaster. Sugar also burn off quickly and leave you hungry. Protein and fat keep you full for much longer with a consistent energy level.janejellyroll wrote: »peckchris3267 wrote: »
Cutting fruit is a good idea. Fruit is loaded with fructose which is essentially sugar. No real need to eliminate vegetables. I try to keep my carbs below 20grams per day and get all of my carbs from vegetables.cwolfman13 wrote: »I'm considering cutting sugar completely out from my diet. For the past three weeks that I've been dieting, I've cut down a ton because I'm no longer drinking fraps and other junk *kitten* every day and it hasn't felt like that much of a burden. Has anyone else gone sugar-free entirely? What effects have you noticed? The only thing now I feel like would affect me is the fact that I would have to cut fruits out which is rather disappointing.
Eliminating fruit and vegetables seems like a rather bad idea...
So what's wrong with something being "essentially sugar"?
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