Aspartame in diet sodas causes diabets and weight gain?!
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piperdown44 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
so by this line of reasoning if everyone at the party who wore a red shirt was fat, red shirts makes people fat?
OMG you didn't know that about red shirts?! (<-humor warning, just in case).
They're also an acute health hazard.9 -
stevencloser wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
so by this line of reasoning if everyone at the party who wore a red shirt was fat, red shirts makes people fat?
OMG you didn't know that about red shirts?! (<-humor warning, just in case).
They're also an acute health hazard.
What a bunch of bull.8 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
so by this line of reasoning if everyone at the party who wore a red shirt was fat, red shirts makes people fat?
OMG you didn't know that about red shirts?! (<-humor warning, just in case).
They're also an acute health hazard.
What a bunch of bull.
I don't like the way you are steering this conversation.11 -
I have no beef with it.8
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Come on, don't have a cow.8
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piperdown44 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
so by this line of reasoning if everyone at the party who wore a red shirt was fat, red shirts makes people fat?
OMG you didn't know that about red shirts?! (<-humor warning, just in case).
Every Single Redshirt Death in Star Trek:TOS13 -
"I'm the guy in the episode who dies to prove how serious the situation is."7
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piperdown44 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
so by this line of reasoning if everyone at the party who wore a red shirt was fat, red shirts makes people fat?
OMG you didn't know that about red shirts?! (<-humor warning, just in case).
That's not what red shirts do.
Go back and re-watch your Star Trek.
ETA oops, late to that party.
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TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
Aspartame has been on the market for about 35 years (maybe more, but I remember first seeing Equal as the hot new 0 calorie sweetener about that long ago). Science has been studying for longer than that. If there were a clear link, especially a causality, between aspartame and weight gain, cancer, or any other doomsayer's calamity of choice, I think that it would have shown up by now.10 -
stevencloser wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
so by this line of reasoning if everyone at the party who wore a red shirt was fat, red shirts makes people fat?
OMG you didn't know that about red shirts?! (<-humor warning, just in case).
They're also an acute health hazard.
This was my immediate thought too!3 -
I feel this thread has moved onto newer pastures7
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TheWJordinWJordin wrote: »I went to a family reunion. Those that grabbed a diet coke can were overweight or obese. Those that grabbed bottled water were thin or normal weight. No exceptions.
.... there has to be something to this. Taste buds, gut flora, craving for sweets? Or simply that people that choose water have a healthier life attitude? It could take decades to find out.
Maybe they choose water to nourish their body and that thinking leads to a healthier body.
* Those that drink water have always been normal body weight.
Science will tell us iun a few decades.... WHY? Could it be that those that cannot handle drinking even one glass of water have a tastebud issue?
Aspartame has been on the market for about 35 years (maybe more, but I remember first seeing Equal as the hot new 0 calorie sweetener about that long ago). Science has been studying for longer than that. If there were a clear link, especially a causality, between aspartame and weight gain, cancer, or any other doomsayer's calamity of choice, I think that it would have shown up by now.
Did you request your gumballs when it first came out?1 -
so now its diet sodas that cause cancer and other health risks? a few months ago it was sugar and carbs causing it.7
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »so now its diet sodas that cause cancer and other health risks? a few months ago it was sugar and carbs causing it.
I'm just waiting for the "protein is the debil" to start so we can go full circle.5 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »so now its diet sodas that cause cancer and other health risks? a few months ago it was sugar and carbs causing it.
I'm just waiting for the "protein is the debil" to start so we can go full circle.
Didn't you know the protein damages the kidneys?6 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »so now its diet sodas that cause cancer and other health risks? a few months ago it was sugar and carbs causing it.
I'm just waiting for the "protein is the debil" to start so we can go full circle.
thats next month or the month after0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »so now its diet sodas that cause cancer and other health risks? a few months ago it was sugar and carbs causing it.
I'm just waiting for the "protein is the debil" to start so we can go full circle.
Didn't you know the protein damages the kidneys?
AND IT SPIKES INSULIN!!! (j/k)4 -
Research Dr. Eric Berg on YouTube. He has some really insightful and interesting topics regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response. If you are looking to heal yourself and not just lose/gain weight, then his videos would be a good start.27
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Research Dr. Eric Berg on YouTube. He has some really insightful and interesting topics regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response. If you are looking to heal yourself and not just lose/gain weight, then his videos would be a good start.
Doctor wannabe Eric Berg is an uber quack chiropractor. Nothing he says is even remotely grounded in science.16 -
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piperdown44 wrote: »OMG you didn't know that about red shirts?! (<-humor warning, just in case).
The one in red always dies.
Dammit.1 -
Research Dr. Eric Berg on YouTube. He has some really insightful and interesting topics regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response. If you are looking to heal yourself and not just lose/gain weight, then his videos would be a good start.
Doctor wannabe Eric Berg is an uber quack chiropractor. Nothing he says is even remotely grounded in science.
There's no need to be so rude. No one is going to force you to watch his videos. But saying that, through following his advice, he has indirectly helped my dad to reverse his type 2 diabetes. On the contrary I don't like how Dr Berg claims all carbs are the devil. I just pick the info that I found useful and ignore the rest.21 -
Research Dr. Eric Berg on YouTube. He has some really insightful and interesting topics regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response. If you are looking to heal yourself and not just lose/gain weight, then his videos would be a good start.
Doctor wannabe Eric Berg is an uber quack chiropractor. Nothing he says is even remotely grounded in science.
There's no need to be so rude. No one is going to force you to watch his videos. But saying that, through following his advice, he has indirectly helped my dad to reverse his type 2 diabetes. On the contrary I don't like how Dr Berg claims all carbs are the devil. I just pick the info that I found useful and ignore the rest.
It isn't rude to point out that Berg/Taubes/Oz are all quacks. Glad you found something useful, but none of them are really worth listening to. And pointing that out is, ultimately, helpful.10 -
Research Dr. Eric Berg on YouTube. He has some really insightful and interesting topics regarding artificial sweeteners and insulin response. If you are looking to heal yourself and not just lose/gain weight, then his videos would be a good start.
Doctor wannabe Eric Berg is an uber quack chiropractor. Nothing he says is even remotely grounded in science.
There's no need to be so rude. No one is going to force you to watch his videos. But saying that, through following his advice, he has indirectly helped my dad to reverse his type 2 diabetes. On the contrary I don't like how Dr Berg claims all carbs are the devil. I just pick the info that I found useful and ignore the rest.
I don't think it was rude. There are plenty of people who follow advice from people who make outlandish claims that end up working. It doesn't validate the science or lack there of those claims. And considering Eric Berg's advice is anti carb (which a lot of non scientist are doing these days), I am not surprised that it helped your dad put his diabetes in remediation. In all honest, if you vilify enough foods, then the limitations may work to address a condition.6 -
Diet sodas don't make you gain weight. It's n = 1, but for some people it increases appetite and that causes weight gain if they indulge. That, or they overeat because they figure they can since they aren't drinking their calories.
Personally I drink 3-4 a day and haven't gained weight from it (now when I go out to eat and don't care to monitor my choices...that's a different story). Another n = 1, but a few people in threads have mentioned developing sensitivities (clinically diagnosed with which eliminating the diet soda cured their symptoms) or addictions to the sweeteners which made it preferable for them to stop. May not happen to everyone.
That being said, some sweeteners are misleading! If you buy some for baking, etc read the label. Of the same brand packets and a different container container can have different artifical sweeteners added to them besides what are advertised. Sometimes, the added sweetener is harmless. Other times, it can cause a blood sugar spike.
Here's a link to a list of sweeteners and their GI. Below there's some additional info and links if you'd like to search trials done for the GI of some sweeteners.
http://www.sugar-and-sweetener-guide.com/glycemic-index-for-sweeteners.html1 -
Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.1
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Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free
You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can.
Thank you for clarifying!
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When I was younger I used to eat a cheeseburger with a diet coke float. Something in the back of my mind telling me that was a healthier alternative. Nope. Just slightly less calories than a regular one.
Now I just drink beer or wine with my cheeseburger. 8 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Diet Pepsi uses Sucralose which is a derivative of sugar (pretty sure). But is aspartame free now. I treat myself to roughly 2 diet pops a week, depending. I just started though lol.
not all of the diet pepsi, some have aspartame and others dont. some have a combo.The silver label is aspartame free
You're right. Cherry and regular diet Pepsi is aspartame free, it says it on the can. Thank you for clarifying!
I thought that was short lived and that they're back to aspartame?0
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