Ketogenic diet
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I think it always pays to limit carbs to, perhaps, 30% of tot on average, particularly while cutting.
I shoot for 25% from protein (100g or so for me), so that leaves 45% from fat. When cutting at 1500kcals per day plus exercise, my base is thus 500kcals of carb (125g). (I actually don't try to be all that accurate, just ball-park.)
If I'm not very active in a day, I'll go lower in carbs, raising fats. But, if you exercise or are at all active, I think you really need some (but not too many) carbs.
Anyway, you can always play around with it and see what works for you. There appears to be little harm in eating lower or higher carb, so long as you 1) limit overall calories, 2) eat enough calories, 3) don't overeat protein.9 -
For some people, sure.
For me? Nope.
Different strokes for different folks.11 -
I've had great luck on keto over the last six months. I'm down 70lbs. I plan to eat this way for the rest of my life, as it's also made my migraines go away and my neurologist approves. Whether or not it's "restrictive" depends on the kinds of food you like best, really. I'm a meat and green veggies kind of person so it suits me very well.
Only you can decide whether one way of eating is right for you or not.20 -
aggiepringle6665 wrote: »Yes for me. For me, it is sustainable and it has become a way of life. I feel full for the first time in my life. I'm losing weight and feeling well.
this was more or less the testimony of someone i lift with, who's been doing a Year of Eating Keto since january. he had something like 140 pounds to lose when he started, and he's said the same thing: this is the first time he's ever been able to maintain a calorie deficit long enough for significant progress, because he's not suffering every second of every day like he always did on most of the other attempts that he made.
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Well. I wasn't thinking at all that I'll go with this kind of diet.. Carb cut!!?.. No way in hell..
But this is my fifth day.. And i feel awesome. Hope it will help me shedding those stubborn fats13 -
Google "the honeymoon phase of dieting"Well. I wasn't thinking at all that I'll go with this kind of diet.. Carb cut!!?.. No way in hell..
But this is my fifth day.. And i feel awesome.
The great thing about fat loss is that it happens when you're in a consistent calorie deficit. You don't have to rely on hope. Actually, fat does not react to hope, only to calorie deficit.Hope it will help me shedding those stubborn fats
The great thing about a calorie deficit, is that you can pick any diet that provides you with one. It's smart to pick one you like.
The great thing about the last few punds, is that they don't pose a health risk, usually merely an annoyance.
The strange thing about the last few pounds is that they are elusive - you decide which ones are the last, and when you've lost them, can you be sure that they really were the last?
The not so great thing about the last few pounds, is that they are really really slow. You have to be accurate and patient if you want them gone.10 -
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kierstenlenz wrote: »Yes for me! As a type 1 diabetic, it is amazing the effects it has on my blood sugar. I no longer have spikes or lows, and that is enough for me to stick to keto.
I also have type 1 diabetes. Initially, the reason I went low carb was in order to provide more stable BG. Everybody on MFP told me that it wouldn't help me lose any faster and that calories are the only thing that mattered. I believed that, but since I struggled to consistently lose even with a calorie deficit, I figured I could try low carb in order to stabilize BG at least. I expected to have the same struggles with weight loss after switching to low carb.
What actually happened is that during the first year of low carb, I lost at a rate of 5 times faster despite keeping the same calorie deficit. I now eat extreme low carb (practically no plants because I'm trying to cut every gram of carb possible). I now have less than 10 lbs. of fat to lose in order to reach my goal of 10% body fat. It was completely unexpected that low carb would help me lose weight so much more quickly, but was a very happy surprise.30 -
not full keto but close, because i like carbs. and because I like carbs, I eat the *kitten* out of them. When I cut carbs, calories follow.3
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stevencloser wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »kierstenlenz wrote: »Yes for me! As a type 1 diabetic, it is amazing the effects it has on my blood sugar. I no longer have spikes or lows, and that is enough for me to stick to keto.
I also have type 1 diabetes. Initially, the reason I went low carb was in order to provide more stable BG. Everybody on MFP told me that it wouldn't help me lose any faster and that calories are the only thing that mattered. I believed that, but since I struggled to consistently lose even with a calorie deficit, I figured I could try low carb in order to stabilize BG at least. I expected to have the same struggles with weight loss after switching to low carb.
What actually happened is that during the first year of low carb, I lost at a rate of 5 times faster despite keeping the same calorie deficit. I now eat extreme low carb (practically no plants because I'm trying to cut every gram of carb possible). I now have less than 10 lbs. of fat to lose in order to reach my goal of 10% body fat. It was completely unexpected that low carb would help me lose weight so much more quickly, but was a very happy surprise.
I remember your photos. You're nowhere close to 10% bodyfat.
I'll take Dexa results over your guess from my photos. It does goes to prove that photos and appearance are not always an accurate measurement method.
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I've been eating 20-30 net carbs per day with (mostly) lean meats the last 60 days and I've lost 50 lbs.
Most difficult part was dropping all alcohol from my diet. I started working out in the gym regularly and taking a few long, brisk walks a week.
It's a mindset now and i track EVERY damn thing I eat and drink.
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I dont think its a magic diet but it does seem to work for some.4
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CigarCityNole wrote: »I've been eating 20-30 net carbs per day with (mostly) lean meats the last 60 days and I've lost 50 lbs.
Most difficult part was dropping all alcohol from my diet. I started working out in the gym regularly and taking a few long, brisk walks a week.
It's a mindset now and i track EVERY damn thing I eat and drink.
if you lost weight that fast either you are/were very obese, or your calorie deficit was/is too large.10 -
Simply another tactic to implement a CICO strategy. Nothing magical, superior, or inferior to this method, other than restricting the source of calories.6
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Yes. Only way I can actually lose weight without feeling like I'm starving. First 3 weeks are painful, but after that it's great fo me. CICO is oversimplified. Our bodies are complex. Everybodies body reacts differently to different macronutrients. I know people who live on carbs/sugar and are slim and full of energy. If I ate what they did, I would gain weight and have zero energy.25
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Yes. Only way I can actually lose weight without feeling like I'm starving. First 3 weeks are painful, but after that it's great fo me. CICO is oversimplified. Our bodies are complex. Everybodies body reacts differently to different macronutrients. I know people who live on carbs/sugar and are slim and full of energy. If I ate what they did, I would gain weight and have zero energy.
Hate to break it to you, but ketogenic follows CICO. CICO is shorthand for energy balance.9 -
@psuLemon Maybe the definition of CICO has changed. Last I looked it didn't account for how diet affects BMR or how some people are genetically predisposed to obesity/excess fat storage.
Also keto isn't as simple as CICO. Keto makes the claim of reducing the body's resistance to fat loss.22 -
@psuLemon Maybe the definition of CICO has changed. Last I looked it didn't account for how diet affects BMR or how some people are genetically predisposed to obesity/excess fat storage.
Also keto isn't as simple as CICO. Keto makes the claim of reducing the body's resistance to fat loss.
psulemon can jump in too, but CICO just means that whether you lose, gain, or maintain depends on CI vs. CO. Lots of things (a thyroid condition, for example) could affect either CI or CO.
That said, what "keto" claims depends on who is doing the claiming. There doesn't seem to be any credible evidence that keto makes a real difference in how fast you lose fat (or a plausible explanation for why it would, as we burn fat without doing keto and can turn dietary fat into body fat quite easily, of course). I did keto for a bit and did not see any differences. Also, obviously, plenty maintain and bulk on keto.
Many of those successful on keto (or other lower carb ways of eating, as well as plenty of other ways of eating) will say, instead, that they tend to eat fewer calories more easily eating that way, and for me that resonates some.7 -
No because I like foods I eats foods within my calories if I restrict what I can eat I fall off the wagon and eat and eat and eat and eat.0
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*grabs popcorn*
Should be pretty obvious which side of the debate I fall on. And if it's not, well...I'm sure low-carb vegetarians exist, but I wouldn't want to eat their food.5
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