All Calories are not created equal!
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evilpoptart63 wrote: »I know everyone is looking at CICO as the golden rule but maybe some people handle carbs better than others? I recently upped my carbs but stayed under my calorie goal every day and really should have lost at least a full pound in the last 10 days but instead maintained (or gained .5 lb depending on which morning weigh in I want to use) I weigh and measure all of my food meticulously so I know Im not eating more than I think. Im having a bit of a nervous breakdown not seeing my expected results. Im dropping my carbs today
Every gram of carbohydrate retains around 3 grams of water. So if you increase your carb intake, you also increase your water weight. That is why weight goes up when you increase carb intake, and it's also why people experience these "spectacular" losses in the beginning stages of a keto diet. When you reduce carbohydrate intake, you also alter (reduce) your body's water/glycogen balance. So when somebody loses 7 pounds in their first week of a keto diet, congratulate them on their water loss because that's all it is.
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Tacklewasher wrote: »evilpoptart63 wrote: »I know everyone is looking at CICO as the golden rule but maybe some people handle carbs better than others? I recently upped my carbs but stayed under my calorie goal every day and really should have lost at least a full pound in the last 10 days but instead maintained (or gained .5 lb depending on which morning weigh in I want to use) I weigh and measure all of my food meticulously so I know Im not eating more than I think. Im having a bit of a nervous breakdown not seeing my expected results. Im dropping my carbs today
Every gram of carbohydrate retains around 3 grams of water. So if you increase your carb intake, you also increase your water weight. That is why weight goes up when you increase carb intake, and it's also why people experience these "spectacular" losses in the beginning stages of a keto diet. When you reduce carbohydrate intake, you also alter (reduce) your body's water/glycogen balance. So when somebody loses 7 pounds in their first week of a keto diet, congratulate them on their water loss because that's all it is.
Does 1g carb = 1g glycogen? I always thought the relationship was between glycogen and water.
Glycogen is the principal storage form of carbohydrate in the body (along with starches). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK9879/
[ETA:] Carbs are composed of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen. The basic formula/chemical structure for simple sugars (monosaccharides) is CH20 (see the H2O part in there?) The name "carbohydrate" is derived from C="carbo" and H20 = "hydrate".3 -
Why do people feel the need to beat this topic like a dead horse?
A calorie is a calorie, just like a mile is a mile. Doesn't matter where it comes from. Still 1 calorie.
And OP, what professional certification do you have to keep making these posts? Are you just trying to start "kitten"?4 -
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OP you're so wrong...I hate when people say this. I feel bad for any new people who may stumble upon that crap and believe it.5
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BradsRedemption wrote: »So what you're saying is eating in a caloric deficit made you lose weight?
Basically that's exactly what she's saying.
Her argument even states that she eats these 'better calories' because with 150 calories she's full. And that's what people can't seem to understand....if you eat nothing but vegetables and chicken you're very likely to lose weight because they are not calorie dense. It's very hard to eat 2000+ calories on that diet. There's nothing magical about chicken or veggies (as it pertains to weight loss). They just fill you up faster on less calories.
She's describing a diet that is probably 1000 calories a day and that's why she's losing weight.0 -
Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!28 -
JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
Oh, keep reading past the first post, @JillianRumrill.
I eat what I want within my calorie limit. It isn't cheeseburgers and fries 24/7. It's chicken breast and spinach and greek yogurt and carrots and pork loin and broccoli and cheese and cheeseburgers and rice and cottage cheese and apples and ice cream and...
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JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
The french fries I had for lunch today don't cancel out the vitamins and nutrients in the rest of the foods I'm eating today (and they also contain some vitamins and nutrients of their own).
It's not like most of us have to choose between eating a cheeseburger and eating carrots. A reasonable calorie goal will allow people to consume both and the cheeseburger has nutrients that the carrots don't.16 -
JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
Can't tell if you're trolling, a fake account or shill to support the op's cause, or just straight-up clueless about how nutrition works.10 -
The OP appears to be trolling -- or better yet, chumming. Throw a piece of meat into the right waters and you get a frenzy of sharks. I also note that the OP has been posting woo for two days now and doesn't respond to any comments or questions. Probably not going to, either.6
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PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
Can't tell if you're trolling, a fake account or shill to support the op's cause, or just straight-up clueless about how nutrition works.
I think the latter, based on what I'm seeing in other threads.2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
Can't tell if you're trolling, a fake account or shill to support the op's cause, or just straight-up clueless about how nutrition works.
I think the latter, based on what I'm seeing in other threads.
or you could look at her about me page, see this statement:
'Wanna tell the poisonous GMO manufacturers to go f*** themselves'
and get a pretty good idea of where she is coming from...7 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
Can't tell if you're trolling, a fake account or shill to support the op's cause, or just straight-up clueless about how nutrition works.
I think the latter, based on what I'm seeing in other threads.
or you could look at her about me page, see this statement:
'Wanna tell the poisonous GMO manufacturers to go f*** themselves'
and get a pretty good idea of where she is coming from...
Checked that out. There are some interesting contradictions there.
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JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
What if I told you I eat veggies AND fries AND get both nutrients AND yumminess. Also, potatoes are full of good stuff, deep frying doesn't change that, just makes them more calorie dense.
And if I'm trying to hit protein and carb goals, that cheeseburger is a pretty good choice.8 -
VintageFeline wrote: »JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
What if I told you I eat veggies AND fries AND get both nutrients AND yumminess. Also, potatoes are full of good stuff, deep frying doesn't change that, just makes them more calorie dense.
And if I'm trying to hit protein and carb goals, that cheeseburger is a pretty good choice.
For real! I don't know why everyone always kitten talks french fries. They are the perfect food.0 -
JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
Why always these extreme examples? I don't know anyone really who eats nothing but burgers and fries, nor do I know anyone who eats nothing but nutrient dense whole foods. There's a middle ground in which a primarily nutrient dense diet, at a calorie appropriate level, allows flexibility for foods like burgers and fries, or pizza, or ice cream, or wine...
As someone said, why does saying "you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight" get interpreted as "eat nothing but garbage food" as you pointed out? Why do you assume that someone wants to eat only "garbage food" (whatever that means, I don't think eating food from the garbage sounds very tasty)?10 -
CICO... simple. I eat the same things I've always ate, just in smaller portions and I continue to lose weight. There is nothing you HAVE to eat in order to lose weight.3
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WinoGelato wrote: »JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
Why always these extreme examples? I don't know anyone really who eats nothing but burgers and fries, nor do I know anyone who eats nothing but nutrient dense whole foods. There's a middle ground in which a primarily nutrient dense diet, at a calorie appropriate level, allows flexibility for foods like burgers and fries, or pizza, or ice cream, or wine...
As someone said, why does saying "you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight" get interpreted as "eat nothing but garbage food" as you pointed out? Why do you assume that someone wants to eat only "garbage food" (whatever that means, I don't think eating food from the garbage sounds very tasty)?
Because the only way one can construct an argument about 'teh poizonzzz" which looks even remotely rational is to completely ignore context and dosage, and compare polar extremes. No middle ground - either you're one who excludes all the things from your diet, or you're one who consumes nothing but calorie-dense, "chemical-laden" junk foods all day, every day. No possible way there could be a sensible, moderate alternative between the extremes.
It's like saying "omgzzz, running is so bad for you! If you run a marathon every day you're going to have injuries and deplete all your energy and be tired all the time and not be able to do anything else!!1!!!" Well, yeah....but on the other hand, you could also apply some common sense and moderation, and develop a perfectly healthy running plan which would greatly improve your health and fitness instead of doing something stupid like running a marathon every day.13 -
JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
read the post about the twinkie diet and the guys blood results, then get back to me4 -
deannalfisher wrote: »JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
read the post about the twinkie diet and the guys blood results, then get back to me
Ot but this made "The Twinkie Diet" sound to me like a massacre of some kind.
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janejellyroll wrote: »JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
The french fries I had for lunch today don't cancel out the vitamins and nutrients in the rest of the foods I'm eating today (and they also contain some vitamins and nutrients of their own).
It's not like most of us have to choose between eating a cheeseburger and eating carrots. A reasonable calorie goal will allow people to consume both and the cheeseburger has nutrients that the carrots don't.
Exactly this. I'd really like for the prior poster to respond, as I don't see how this is even debatable.
In addition:JillianRumrill wrote: »How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
I don't care for cheeseburgers (although I do eat cheese at other times, admittedly). I know I'm weird, but I like my burgers without cheese (just like I don't care for sausage or pepperoni on pizza).
But let's ignore the fact that I'd prefer a burger without the bun, maybe with some potatoes and brussels sprouts and pretend like I'm having an actual burger. You asked about sodium:
120 g raw of 95% lean ground beef has 164 calories, 26 g of protein, 79 mg sodium.
WF's whole wheat hamburger bun has 120 calories, 230 mg of sodium.
Carrots (if you want to have them too) have 69 mg of sodium in 100 g.
Of course, if you add a pinch of salt to the burger or the carrots, that number goes out the window.
I guess I'm lucky I don't care about sodium so don't have to worry if I have 309 mg from a burger plus whatever salt and pickles and mustard and vegetables I might have with it. I've been known to eat a burger with a salad on which I put olives and feta cheese -- that's way more of a sodium source than the burger.
Anyway, that aside, didn't stop me from losing weight or getting good nutrition that day.6 -
JillianRumrill wrote: »Hello again! Today I want to go through some words of wisdom I received from a very smart Weight and Fitness coach. “It is NOT how many "calories" you eat, but what they are made up of.
All calories are not created equal.
You have calories your body uses almost totally. These are your healthy proteins, fish, chicken, tofu, eggs to name a few. Your fruits such as any citrus are very healthy and low carb and calorie, and your vegetables especially green ones and non-starchy. Your body uses these to live and build immune systems.
Fast carbs such as breads, (white especially), white rice, pastas, potatoes, all are high in carbohydrates and turn into fat easiest as your body does not use them unless you are a runner or heavy exercise person then it converts to energy as you work out. That is why marathon runners carb-load.
Most of us however are not in this category so all the high calorie carbohydrates in our diet stop us from losing weight.
I do eat the carbohydrates but in very minimal portions of no more than 35 carbs per meal. I also limit the eating of high carbs to two days a week, usually one meal per day.
By focusing on the high proteins which for 3-4 ounces are usually less than 150 calories and around 25-30 proteins with 0 carbohydrates, I fill up totally and it takes my body a few hours to digest it and therefore I am not hungry again so fast. By planning high proteins and low carbs I eat three very satisfying meals of a very good quantity and low calories.
Following this I have lost an additional 16 pounds this year to add to my prior 140 pound loss from 2010-2015 year end.
So my rule of thumb: It is not HOW MANY calories you consume per day BUT what they consist of.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
YES!! You don't know how many times I've read things like "oh, you can eat [insert garbage "food" here] and still lose weight" uh, yeah, but VITAMINS AND NUTRIENTS...how does that work?! How much sodium is in that cheezeburger vs those carrots...and look how many veggies you can consume vs that small order of fries!!!
Eat a balanced diet with a wide variety of foods...8 -
I'm confused by something. OP's been on MFP since 2010.
It's taken her ten months to lose 16 pounds eating "800" calories a day.
Yeah, those calories aren't created equal to the calories I'm eating alrighty.14 -
A calorie is a unit of measurement. By definition a calorie is a calorie, in the same way that a pound is a pound or a mile is a mile.
What you mean is that not all foods are equal when it comes to nutrition and satiation and that when you go on a diet you not only need to consider calories but also satiety (for peace of mind and comfort) and nutrition (for health).
Everybody knows that. That doesn't make saying "not all calories are equal" a smart thing to say.
If you drive a mile on a smooth highway you can get up to a high level of speed and experience a smooth ride. If you drive the same mile on a backcountry dirt road you won't be able to go nearly as fast and there will be a lot of bumps and dangers to avoid. That doesn't mean that a mile doesn't equal a mile or that your odometer isn't tracking the number of miles you've traveled.
The actual amount of weight you lose is directly causally connected to your calories taken in versus your calories expended regardless of the source of those calories the same way the distance traveled on your odometer doesn't matter the quality of the road you were on. If someone decides to declare when you point to your odometer that "not all miles are the same!" that is going to be kind of a weird thing to say. It'd be like "Well...yeah, but what does that have to do with an odometer or the length of a mile?"14 -
skymningen wrote: »You are right. Not all calories are created equal. Some come from carbs, others from fat, others from protein. Some come from food, others from drinks. But then... they are metabolised and used as energy, which we count in this case as calories.
Now, let's say they became a calorie. In fact, now they are equal. There are exact rules what a 'calorie' is. They are not treated equal, but that is based on your bodies needs, not in where they came from. After the basic metabolism, your body does not remember how they were created. A calorie from chocolate might be stored if it is not immediately needed. Or it might be used up in an instant. Eventually all of them will be used. Storage is kind of expensive, you know.You have to actually expend calories to move all those stored ones. Same with a calorie from broccoli or a chia seed. At this point it all depends on what your body needs.
Of course the foods your calories came from are made of different building blocks and thus give your body different prerequisites to work with. Some are metabolised into usable energy faster, some slower. Some bring building blocks that are important at that point, some just bring additional lipids (fats). But all of this will be used or excreted eventually. The calories are not created equal, but they live in a nice world of equality. Don't discriminate them.
You're confusing "calories" with "nutrients". A calorie is a unit of measure, nothing more. A mile can be uphill, downhill, on a paved roadway or a steep, rocky mountainous trail, covered in snow, drenched in rain or baked in desert heat - but no matter what, it's still a mile. If I run it barefoot, drive it in a car or crawl it on my hands and knees over broken glass, it's still a mile. Calories are like that too.
Hah I swear I wrote my comment before I read yours, just happened upon the same analogy you came up with.3 -
evilpoptart63 wrote: »I know everyone is looking at CICO as the golden rule but maybe some people handle carbs better than others? I recently upped my carbs but stayed under my calorie goal every day and really should have lost at least a full pound in the last 10 days but instead maintained (or gained .5 lb depending on which morning weigh in I want to use) I weigh and measure all of my food meticulously so I know Im not eating more than I think. Im having a bit of a nervous breakdown not seeing my expected results. Im dropping my carbs today
CICO says absolutely nothing about anything subjective like how well someone "handles" eating a certain type of food. CICO says your weight loss (ie fat loss) is determined by the number of calories you intake versus the number of calories you output. It says absolutely nothing about how good of a time you are going to have while doing so.
Carbohydrates are stored in your body with water as glycogen in your muscles. If you just start dieting and start a new exercise routine chances are for the first month you will likely gain weight due to increased water retention due to glycogen storage in your muscles. This isn't a bad thing. This has nothing to do with how much fat you are losing which presumably is the actual point of dieting. What your scale does over the period of 10 days (especially as a woman who has a water retention cycle) says basically nothing. Keep a consistant routinue, trust the numbers and look at your weight over longer periods of time measured in months not days.8 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »thunderchild007 wrote: »Forget your popcorn, pass the peanut butter cups........
Why not both? (I love mixing popcorn, sweets and chocolates together and getting all three in one mouthful!)
Popcorn and chocolate-covered raisins for the win.2 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »Can't tell if you're trolling, a fake account or shill to support the op's cause, or just straight-up clueless about how nutrition works.
I'm a juggalo, I don't even know how magnets work.
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yo how many calories in a human leg? and nutrition facts. I need it for.....reasons... 2
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