DESPERATE AND ABOUT TO QUIT
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Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging2
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Here's a handy chart that should help you gain some insight.
Can you help me understand the 3rd green diamond?
because when i see this on my fitness app it does confuse me
1500 - 1489+317= 358
like whaaaa??? does this mean i still have 358 calories to go or is it ok not to eat those??? i am confused
and yes i am on my 3rd week now.
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http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/punkinjdm6?date=2017-12-05
Here is an example...
Under lunch.. you have
Sirloin - Sirlion, 5 oz 210 calories.
okay... are you weighing that raw? Cooked?
5oz is 140g and 140g of steak raw is 282 calories
5oz or 140g cooked steak is 300 calories6 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »Okay, I'm going to take yesterday for an example:
1. Veggie soup: was that your own recipe or one that you pulled out of the database without knowing what's in it?
2. Lettuce and tomato plate - what even is that? How many tomatoes?
3. 5 Slices of turkey - how many grams or oz is that?
4. Generic banana - you need to weigh your fruit. Most bananas I eat are about 50% higher in calories than the generic data bases
You might be logging everything that you eat, but you're not really logging it all accurately.
Take a deep breath. Weighing everything is just one small tweak that you have to make. You already have the logging part down.
You mention spoons and cups in your original post, but those are not very accurate. Weigh everything on a food scale. They're only about ten bucks at any grocery store.
THANK YOU. i didnt want to make the post super long but when i say cups i mean for example my coconut milk i measure 1 cup which equals 70 calories
and my peanut butter is 0.5tbsp equals 12 calories thats what i mean.
is any meat i weigh on my scale mostly in OZ.
A tablespoon is not an accurate way to measure peanut butter. Even if it was half a tablespoon being 12 calories sounds really low. Is that some kind of special peanut butter?8 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »Okay, I'm going to take yesterday for an example:
1. Veggie soup: was that your own recipe or one that you pulled out of the database without knowing what's in it?
2. Lettuce and tomato plate - what even is that? How many tomatoes?
3. 5 Slices of turkey - how many grams or oz is that?
4. Generic banana - you need to weigh your fruit. Most bananas I eat are about 50% higher in calories than the generic data bases
You might be logging everything that you eat, but you're not really logging it all accurately.
Take a deep breath. Weighing everything is just one small tweak that you have to make. You already have the logging part down.
You mention spoons and cups in your original post, but those are not very accurate. Weigh everything on a food scale. They're only about ten bucks at any grocery store.
THANK YOU. i didnt want to make the post super long but when i say cups i mean for example my coconut milk i measure 1 cup which equals 70 calories
and my peanut butter is 0.5tbsp equals 12 calories thats what i mean.
is any meat i weigh on my scale mostly in OZ.
So again, 0.5 TBSP of peanut butter can weigh as much as a TBSP of peanut butter. Your scoop could be rounded, your measuring spoons could be a little bit off. Weigh it. Weigh your coconut milk. I'm serious. It's a pain in the butt at first but it helps.
And according to your food diary from yesterday, not all your protein is weighed.
And NONE of your fruit and veg is weighed.
LOGGING regularly is the hard part. You have this part down. Logging ACCURATELY is just taking what you have and making it BETTER and more EFFECTIVE.12 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »I used the calorie calculator on calculator.net and got 1301 for you to lose 1 lb a week if you are sedentary besides that 30 minute workout. 1500-1800 would seem a bit too high then since you have not been losing. I'm older but the same height and starting at 179 lbs sedentary I lost 1 lb a week on 1340 calories per day.
What calorie goal did MFP give you based on your normal activity without exercise?
You mention cups and teaspoons. You might try using a digital food scale to get more accurate.
Yes i do. i weigh things like meats, fruits, veggies
i use cups and spoons for more grain and powdered foods
If you're weighing them, begin logging by weight. Right now you've got things like "1 banana," "5 slices" of ham, etc.5 -
HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Half a tablespoon of peanut butter isn't 12 calories... i hope you are not actually logging that as 12.. lol
i scanned the barcode of the powdered peanut butther pb2 which equaled 2tbsp (12gm) i only used 1/2 serving and thats what fitness app calculated.4 -
Also, what kind of coconut milk? Regular coconut milk can be 500 calories per cup. Are you drinking light coconut milk?1
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punkinjdm6 wrote: »
Here's a handy chart that should help you gain some insight.
Can you help me understand the 3rd green diamond?
because when i see this on my fitness app it does confuse me
1500 - 1489+317= 358
like whaaaa??? does this mean i still have 358 calories to go or is it ok not to eat those??? i am confused
and yes i am on my 3rd week now.
yes, it means they're okay to eat. But ONLY if your exercise calories are accurate. I usually make it a rule of thumb to eat back about half of that the exercise calories are (317/2, for your equation above).
MFP app is really nice because if your last number is green (358), then you can eat it. If it's red, you can't.
OR if it's positive, you can eat it. If it's negative, you can't eat it.1 -
HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
I wasn’t shaming her, I just don’t know how she manages to split the calories she says she eats into the kind of meals she stated plus the 3 snacks on top.0 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »
Here's a handy chart that should help you gain some insight.
Can you help me understand the 3rd green diamond?
because when i see this on my fitness app it does confuse me
1500 - 1489+317= 358
like whaaaa??? does this mean i still have 358 calories to go or is it ok not to eat those??? i am confused
and yes i am on my 3rd week now.
If you have a calorie goal of 1500 per day... and you eat 1500 that brings you to 0 calories NET
If you workout and burn 320 calories it gives you calories because MFP already gives you a weight loss deficit and is designed to give you more calories to eat more. Also as a woman you are required to eat a minimum of 1200 calories per day. so when you burned 320 from that 1500 it brought you to 1180 NET. Which technically would be fine, If you burned MORE then that through exercise you would neat to eat back enough calories to bring yourself up to 1200 calories.
1500
-1500
=0
+320 Exercise
= 1180 NET (1500 - 320 = 1180)
(Eat 20 more calories to bring it back to 1200)4 -
Also, what kind of coconut milk? Regular coconut milk can be 500 calories per cup. Are you drinking light coconut milk?
I believe OP is referring to coconut milk in a carton (like the kind made by Silk, as a replacement for dairy milk). It's about 70 calories per cup because it's mostly water. It's very different than the coconut milk in a can (usually used in culinary applications) which has much more fat (and therefore is higher in calories).
Edit: Confirmed. From OP's diary, this is the milk in question: "So Delicious - Coconut Milk Dairy Free Original, 1 cup." I've used this, it is around 70 calories a cup.4 -
I'm not sure why you're arguing with what people are trying to tell you. Several people have said you're doing great at logging in the first place which is the tough part - getting the discipline to record what you're eating. Now just tweak it a bit and practice getting really accurate with what you're recording.
If you'll do this, you should seee the results you're looking for. Or keep arguing and doing what you're doing and you'll continue to get the same results you're getting now.4 -
HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
I wasn’t shaming her, I just don’t know how she manages to split the calories she says she eats into the kind of meals she stated plus the 3 snacks on top.
Its actually pretty easy to do.. if you plan correctly and log accurately, the only issue here is her database entries are completely wrong and it's causing her to eat too much of those meals but she can eat that many times a day if she wants4 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Half a tablespoon of peanut butter isn't 12 calories... i hope you are not actually logging that as 12.. lol
i scanned the barcode of the powdered peanut butther pb2 which equaled 2tbsp (12gm) i only used 1/2 serving and thats what fitness app calculated.
We're really not trying to put you down here, @punkinjdm6. We've just all been around and faced your struggle and REPEATEDLY, this is the #1 mistake MFP users make. When you tighten up your logging (ie weighing your food and logging by weight), you see results.
In the beginning, if you're really overweight (I was 140 lbs overweight), you can kind of fudge it and get away with it. The closer you are to your goal weight, the less room for error there is.
Please trust us. This WILL help you. You just have to believe in the process.15 -
HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging
OK so the thread is to help me better understand this fitness life that obviously people like you might have been doing this longer than me. shoot me I'm a rookie. I also said many failed attempts so yes i realize something im doing is wrong.
If this fitness app is suppose to be so helpful but apparently isnt then what am i suppose to believe on my own.
If i type in chicken breast grilled and it says 150gm = 200 calories (example)
so i weigh out 150 gm of a dam chicken breast because im lead to believe this is the best or closest thing for me to think is correct.
but your telling me its not correct. then im sorry.
I scan a bar-code tells me 1 cup = 70 calories so i measure a cup of milk. in a glass measuring cup that says this line is 1 cup
So please help me not judge me on what is the best possible way to measure and log. because just telling me im doing it wrong doesnt help me either.
I thought the things i picked where correct or as close to what im eating
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HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »
I wasn’t shaming her, I just don’t know how she manages to split the calories she says she eats into the kind of meals she stated plus the 3 snacks on top.
Its actually pretty easy to do.. if you plan correctly and log accurately, the only issue here is her database entries are completely wrong and it's causing her to eat too much of those meals but she can eat that many times a day if she wants
Agreed. I eat three meals and two snacks and a dessert pretty much daily, you just have to understand that your "meals" can't be big.
But I also agree that OP is eating more than OP thinks. It's easier to split more calories into more meals.1 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging
OK so the thread is to help me better understand this fitness life that obviously people like you might have been doing this longer than me. shoot me I'm a rookie. I also said many failed attempts so yes i realize something im doing is wrong.
If this fitness app is suppose to be so helpful but apparently isnt then what am i suppose to believe on my own.
If i type in chicken breast grilled and it says 150gm = 200 calories (example)
so i weigh out 150 gm of a dam chicken breast because im lead to believe this is the best or closest thing for me to think is correct.
but your telling me its not correct. then im sorry.
I scan a bar-code tells me 1 cup = 70 calories so i measure a cup of milk. in a glass measuring cup that says this line is 1 cup
So please help me not judge me on what is the best possible way to measure and log. because just telling me im doing it wrong doesnt help me either.
I thought the things i picked where correct or as close to what im eating
Yes, weigh out the chicken for the 150g.
USUALLY, on the nutrition label, there will be something like "1 serving = 1 TBSP (28g)" for example. Use the 28g, not the 1 TBSP. You will RARELY see ONLY cup, TBSP, etc., and usually only on liquids. In case of LIQUIDS ONLY, it can be okay to use a measuring cup IF A WEIGHT isn't indicated. Otherwise, weigh everything.4 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Also your response to her response doesn't make sense to what she said.. you are claiming to use cups for liquids and a scale for meats, but we are telling you that your entries are generic and do not give you the actual calories you are consuming for what you are logging
OK so the thread is to help me better understand this fitness life that obviously people like you might have been doing this longer than me. shoot me I'm a rookie. I also said many failed attempts so yes i realize something im doing is wrong.
If this fitness app is suppose to be so helpful but apparently isnt then what am i suppose to believe on my own.
If i type in chicken breast grilled and it says 150gm = 200 calories (example)
so i weigh out 150 gm of a dam chicken breast because im lead to believe this is the best or closest thing for me to think is correct.
but your telling me its not correct. then im sorry.
I scan a bar-code tells me 1 cup = 70 calories so i measure a cup of milk. in a glass measuring cup that says this line is 1 cup
So please help me not judge me on what is the best possible way to measure and log. because just telling me im doing it wrong doesnt help me either.
I thought the things i picked where correct or as close to what im eating
Right.. and we are trying to tell you that entries being used can be wrong and the ones you are picking are wrong, isn't that what you are asking us to do?? We are telling you the entries being used are what are giving you the wrong calorie information, so now, we are hoping that you will confirm that you realize this so we can then show you how to find the real calorie counts.9 -
punkinjdm6 wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »Half a tablespoon of peanut butter isn't 12 calories... i hope you are not actually logging that as 12.. lol
i scanned the barcode of the powdered peanut butther pb2 which equaled 2tbsp (12gm) i only used 1/2 serving and thats what fitness app calculated.
We're really not trying to put you down here, @punkinjdm6. We've just all been around and faced your struggle and REPEATEDLY, this is the #1 mistake MFP users make. When you tighten up your logging (ie weighing your food and logging by weight), you see results.
In the beginning, if you're really overweight (I was 140 lbs overweight), you can kind of fudge it and get away with it. The closer you are to your goal weight, the less room for error there is.
Please trust us. This WILL help you. You just have to believe in the process.
No i dont feel this way about what your telling me everyone is being helpful but i hellyeaitskriss is just telling me how wrong i am.
not you. im understand everyone else.6
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