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Cutting out coffee or diet coke
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Thanks for all the perceptions of artificial sweeteners and sugar! I’m sure the poster with the original question is very confused by now. As for me I’ll keep away from artificial sweeteners and zero calorie carbonated drinks that bloat you! And adding extra unwanted calories from sugar and cream, and continue to make gains and be healthy. Have a great day!
Just curious, what’s your beef with science? Don’t want to consume these things, fine. No one is saying your preference is not okay. We just don’t appreciate misinformation passed on that isn’t based on facts or legitimate scientific studies.
Believe me, it was jarring for me too when I learned most of what is advertised/preached was woo. But it doesn’t make it right.
Why are people so afraid to be wrong? Read the research, it’s enlightening.
I like you, @DmaMfz.8 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Thanks for all the perceptions of artificial sweeteners and sugar! I’m sure the poster with the original question is very confused by now. As for me I’ll keep away from artificial sweeteners and zero calorie carbonated drinks that bloat you! And adding extra unwanted calories from sugar and cream, and continue to make gains and be healthy. Have a great day!
Yes, it does tend to confuse OP's when people throw around pseudoscience and mistake their personal preferences or responses to foods for universal reactions.
People who bloat when they drink carbonated beverages may want to avoid them. The rest of us don't need to avoid them because other people bloat.
Phenylketonurics should avoid them. Thankfully, I'm not phenylketonuric (and it's a very rare disorder), so I'm not worried. The advice that applies to people with that particular disorder is completely irrelevant to everybody else who doesn't have it.5 -
I also never said salt is bad per se. But 600mg is almost half of daily IDEAL recommended sodium intake just on one meal. That’s ALOT of sodium in one meal considering you have two meals and possibly 1-2 snacks to eat, plus what may be in your beverages etc. It’s not recommended to exceed 2300 mg salt per day, but 1500mg is considered ideal. If a person eats snack bars, soft drinks, pretty much anything packaged, sodium adds up quickly.10
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Does that really say what is your metabolism type?
I need to go to bed until February.
The ad at the bottom of the screen in the screenshot says all that needs to be said about the "source". May as well be quoting the National Enquirer or Weekly World News as a scientific reference, lol.
Just found it - it's on MensHealth. Same text/highlighting. So, yeah - it can safely be ignored.
eta:lemurcat12 wrote: »Thanks for all the perceptions of artificial sweeteners and sugar! I’m sure the poster with the original question is very confused by now. As for me I’ll keep away from artificial sweeteners and zero calorie carbonated drinks that bloat you! And adding extra unwanted calories from sugar and cream, and continue to make gains and be healthy. Have a great day!
If OP is confused (I think perhaps she can read and understand better than that!), then it's probably because a number of people didn't take the advice in this thread title: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10627407/don-t-believe-everything-you-hear-or-read#latest
(I mean those claiming that diet soda causes weight gain.)
So, yeah.10 -
I also never said salt is bad per se. But 600mg is almost half of daily IDEAL recommended sodium intake just on one meal. That’s ALOT of sodium in one meal considering you have two meals and possibly 1-2 snacks to eat, plus what may be in your beverages etc. It’s not recommended to exceed 2300 mg salt per day, but 1500mg is considered ideal. If a person eats snack bars, soft drinks, pretty much anything packaged, sodium adds up quickly.
This is another diet woo myth that gets passed around and won't ever die. Have you ever actually read the nutrition label on a soft drink can to see what the sodium content is?
(Hint: about the same amount as a glass of tap water)18 -
I also never said salt is bad per se. But 600mg is almost half of daily IDEAL recommended sodium intake just on one meal. That’s ALOT of sodium in one meal considering you have two meals and possibly 1-2 snacks to eat, plus what may be in your beverages etc. It’s not recommended to exceed 2300 mg salt per day, but 1500mg is considered ideal. If a person eats snack bars, soft drinks, pretty much anything packaged, sodium adds up quickly.
So people who want to limit themselves to less than 600 mg per meal will probably want to avoid them. Again, what's the big deal for everyone else? There are tons of higher sodium foods in the world, picking on just a handful of them doesn't really make sense.
Olives have a lot of sodium. People who are monitoring that need to keep that in mind. But if someone mentions eating some olives, it's rarer to see people react like they do when a darn Lean Cuisine is brought up.9 -
I also never said salt is bad per se. But 600mg is almost half of daily IDEAL recommended sodium intake just on one meal. That’s ALOT of sodium in one meal considering you have two meals and possibly 1-2 snacks to eat, plus what may be in your beverages etc. It’s not recommended to exceed 2300 mg salt per day, but 1500mg is considered ideal. If a person eats snack bars, soft drinks, pretty much anything packaged, sodium adds up quickly.
This is another diet woo myth that gets passed around and won't ever die. Have you ever actually read the nutrition label on a soft drink can to see what the sodium content is?
(Hint: about the same amount as a glass of tap water)
You have the most helpful hints, @AnvilHead. :flowerforyou:6 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Thanks for all the perceptions of artificial sweeteners and sugar! I’m sure the poster with the original question is very confused by now. As for me I’ll keep away from artificial sweeteners and zero calorie carbonated drinks that bloat you! And adding extra unwanted calories from sugar and cream, and continue to make gains and be healthy. Have a great day!
If OP is confused (I think perhaps she can read and understand better than that!), then it's probably because a number of people didn't take the advice in this thread title: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10627407/don-t-believe-everything-you-hear-or-read#latest
(I mean those claiming that diet soda causes weight gain.)
I clicked on the link... Boy was I shocked.5 -
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I also never said salt is bad per se. But 600mg is almost half of daily IDEAL recommended sodium intake just on one meal. That’s ALOT of sodium in one meal considering you have two meals and possibly 1-2 snacks to eat, plus what may be in your beverages etc. It’s not recommended to exceed 2300 mg salt per day, but 1500mg is considered ideal. If a person eats snack bars, soft drinks, pretty much anything packaged, sodium adds up quickly.
This is another diet woo myth that gets passed around and won't ever die. Have you ever actually read the nutrition label on a soft drink can to see what the sodium content is?
(Hint: about the same amount as a glass of tap water)
Actually yes, and V8 has 640mg in 12 fl oz, where water has about 12. A 20 oz Diet Coke has 70. So it depends on the drink.
I wasn’t talking about soft drinks in my sodium references, I was in a side convo. Sorry, too much sodium in a diet is bad for you, and largest source is processed foods.
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I also never said salt is bad per se. But 600mg is almost half of daily IDEAL recommended sodium intake just on one meal. That’s ALOT of sodium in one meal considering you have two meals and possibly 1-2 snacks to eat, plus what may be in your beverages etc. It’s not recommended to exceed 2300 mg salt per day, but 1500mg is considered ideal. If a person eats snack bars, soft drinks, pretty much anything packaged, sodium adds up quickly.
I have a good friend who is on a diet that severely restricts her sodium intake - at her physician's orders and because of the health issues she has. I was surprised, when talking with her, about the various foods she does not eat because of the high (to her, and for her particular dietary restrictions) sodium content. So naturally, what I eat would be very harmful for her. But her situation is not the norm. And I don't look at how sodium affects HER and apply it to MYSELF and she does not apply it to everyone else either.
It's like saying because some people are lactose intolerant that we should all limit our dairy. No.5 -
In honor of this thread, I went down to the basement (that's two flights of stairs. Meaning I hit my goal of 20 for the day thanks to this trip), grabbed a 0.5l bottle of coke zero.
I was considering heading for the chocolate pralines, but I think this will do to satisfy my sweet tooth for the evening.10 -
I also never said salt is bad per se. But 600mg is almost half of daily IDEAL recommended sodium intake just on one meal. That’s ALOT of sodium in one meal considering you have two meals and possibly 1-2 snacks to eat, plus what may be in your beverages etc. It’s not recommended to exceed 2300 mg salt per day, but 1500mg is considered ideal. If a person eats snack bars, soft drinks, pretty much anything packaged, sodium adds up quickly.
This is another diet woo myth that gets passed around and won't ever die. Have you ever actually read the nutrition label on a soft drink can to see what the sodium content is?
(Hint: about the same amount as a glass of tap water)
Actually yes, and V8 has 640mg in 12 fl oz, where water has about 12. A 20 oz Diet Coke has 70. So it depends on the drink.
I wasn’t talking about soft drinks in my sodium references, I was in a side convo. Sorry, too much sodium in a diet is bad for you, and largest source is processed foods.
You're comparing 8 ounces of water (that is what has 12 mg of sodium) to 20 ounces of Diet Coke.
When you compare equal quantities, you get a more accurate picture.11 -
I'm going to have a vodka and coke
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »I'm going to have a vodka and coke
Pretty irresponsible of you. Don't know you that some people can't have alcohol and that should somehow determine what you choose to drink?11 -
Give up diet Coke and transition into black coffee or coffee with a few plain half and half creamers!
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »I'm going to have a vodka and coke
Me too, although it'll be rum - not vodka. And diet soda - I like to live dangerously.2 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »In honor of this thread, I went down to the basement (that's two flights of stairs. Meaning I hit my goal of 20 for the day thanks to this trip), grabbed a 0.5l bottle of coke zero.
I was considering heading for the chocolate pralines, but I think this will do to satisfy my sweet tooth for the evening.
I just cracked open my afternoon Coke Zero and squirted in a little cherry kool-aid squirty thingie. I am forever in debt to whomever suggested this back in the day. It's my favorite thing ever.5 -
Is this all just a joke to you? I mean, you're advocating for people to eliminate things from their diet. You should have some reason for that beyond just looking for lolz.15 -
I stick to facts, not fiction and broscience.13 -
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Wow.
I might need two vodkas to get through January. I think I remember how bad it is but it's my mind tricking me.5 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Does that really say what is your metabolism type?
I need to go to bed until February.
The ad at the bottom of the screen in the screenshot says all that needs to be said about the "source". May as well be quoting the National Enquirer or Weekly World News as a scientific reference, lol.
Just found it - it's on MensHealth. Same text/highlighting. So, yeah - it can safely be ignored.
eta:lemurcat12 wrote: »Thanks for all the perceptions of artificial sweeteners and sugar! I’m sure the poster with the original question is very confused by now. As for me I’ll keep away from artificial sweeteners and zero calorie carbonated drinks that bloat you! And adding extra unwanted calories from sugar and cream, and continue to make gains and be healthy. Have a great day!
If OP is confused (I think perhaps she can read and understand better than that!), then it's probably because a number of people didn't take the advice in this thread title: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10627407/don-t-believe-everything-you-hear-or-read#latest
(I mean those claiming that diet soda causes weight gain.)
So, yeah.
Rats! So you're saying finding out my metabolism # won't give me the secrets to the universe and make my internet run faster?2 -
You know...it’s okay to accept that you once believed things to be true about diet/nutrition aren’t actually true.
I used to think my metabolism would slow down if I skipped a meal. I just learned that was wrong and moved on. It’s kinda cool.16 -
Coffee black with some cinnamon for flavor. Sugar and cream will be converted into fat. No pop at all. Diet pop is actually worse than regular pop because of the fake sugars your body doesn’t know how to break it down so it can actually make u gain weight.
Don't believe everything you read.7 -
That's called "learning", isn't it?WhereIsPJSoles wrote: »You know...it’s okay to accept that you once believed things to be true about diet/nutrition aren’t actually true.
I used to think my metabolism would slow down if I skipped a meal. I just learned that was wrong and moved on. It’s kinda cool.
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »I'm going to have a vodka and coke
@RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
May I suggest an expresso coffee tequila and diet coke in honour of the original thread?
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I can function without coke/pop (haven't had one in over 10 years) but without coffee, specially in the morning, I am a zombie.1
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