Fatty liver

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  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,088 Member
    I will add this about crash dieting as well. It can be super taxing on your liver. The body will Oxidize fat for fuel, all that fat has to go through the liver. Also, the body will use lean mass/ muscle for energy as well. Gluconeogenisis is done in the liver as well. This can be taxing. I hope you find what ails you! Best of luck
  • Saifnasirpk
    Saifnasirpk Posts: 26 Member
    jfan175 wrote: »
    I'm not huge fan of herbal remedies, but there's evidence that milk thistle is effective in healing and detoxifying the liver.

    Not while op has no idea what is causing the fatty liver.

    No idea. I come in the normal range and work out so clueless

    What you need to ask your doctor is what happens if you lose this weight and it's the same....what then. After a 5kg at your weight you should be seeing some results...you need to chase for a specialist referal if they aren't reducing.

    For now I've been told to reduce my weight and have been scheduled to meet him again. The doctor will decide if anythings changed and the course forward
  • Saifnasirpk
    Saifnasirpk Posts: 26 Member
    psychod787 wrote: »
    I will add this about crash dieting as well. It can be super taxing on your liver. The body will Oxidize fat for fuel, all that fat has to go through the liver. Also, the body will use lean mass/ muscle for energy as well. Gluconeogenisis is done in the liver as well. This can be taxing. I hope you find what ails you! Best of luck

    Oh that makes sense. Thank you. I'll be more careful
  • 1houndgal
    1houndgal Posts: 558 Member
    When your dr approves you for adding back small amounts of fats into your diet, choose extra virgin cold pressed olive oil . Your body needs some for making hormones, and antibodies.
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,267 Member
    I'm concerned, if 80 kg is 12 st 8 lb, you at 6'3", have to be in a good place weight wise, you are also more active than most. I think you need better advice from your medical professional or find a different one. Yours is probably a, non alcohol, related liver condition which is very different to the regular kind of fatty liver condition and needs treating with respect. You probably need referring to an in house dietitian.

    I'm thinking 5 kg weight loss in three weeks is hard going for someone with little weight to loose as I think you have and it is something not to be continued. I think the best thing you can do for yourself is as you said, remove the "junk food". Now enter your statistics, including your sports regime, into MFP in the advised mode, see what it says you need to maintain. Then look up the meals and snacks you regularly used to eat and see how this stacks up in the different food groups. (You should be able to use dates pior to your initial joining here to hold this information.) With luck this should show you your best way out of this situation.

    All the very best. You need to take care of yourself. You are the only one of you on MFP.
  • 1houndgal
    1houndgal Posts: 558 Member
    Link on fatty liver diet, from web md.

    https://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/fatty-liver-disease-diet
  • karahm78
    karahm78 Posts: 493 Member
    While a different organ, my brother went through this with fatty deposits in his pancreas and ended up with severe pancreatitis. He had to eat a very low fat diet for months under supervision. He ate lots of fruit/veg/lean meats and reduced dairy. He also limited snacks like chips and replaced with edamame, potatoes, grape tomatoes.

    After his body recovered he added those things back in moderation.
  • jean3540
    jean3540 Posts: 5 Member
    I’m a type 2 diabetic. I eat a ketogenic diet for my blood sugar but it also has completely resolved my nafl non-alcoholic fatty liver. Took about 6 months.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 11,141 Member
    edited February 2018
    Your doctor obviously knows you and your needs and I would always follow confirmed medical advice.

    However I would re-confirm with my doctor my understanding of the crash diet part of their advice and the continued need for it after your initial loss.

    The leaner you already are the more lean mass you lose with large deficits and the more likely it is that large deficits will result in AT.

    Weight loss is the accumulation of true actual deficits over time.

    The leaner you are the lower your CO. The harder you have dieted the lower your CO both temporarily and perhaps permanently absent a full regain. The less lean mass you have the lower your CO.

    There exist three factors. CI which should not be reduced below 1500 Cal for males who follow MFP guidelines for safe(ish) weight loss, CO which is a function daily activity and deliberate exercise, and time.

    In general I was unaware of the accute time constraints imposed by non alcoholic fatty liver disease, but I suppose that these things depend on comorbidities and individual and family history.

    ETA: what the *kitten*? Looks like I missed half the discussion before I responded!

    So.... Obviously... Diet to lose weight does not equal crash diet... So slow down! And try some strength training in there somewhere...
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 460 Member
    edited February 2018
    Have you used MFP to set your goal calories and started tracking? I'd want to lose these last 5kgs in a slow and controlled fashion. Congrats on getting the first 6kgs off and cleaning up your diet.

    I just started using MFP yesterday. I've been dieting 3 weeks now. What I did was cut in between snacks. Porridge for breakfast, a light lunch and a bowl of soup for dinner. You could say I was just having 2 meals a day. And I continued my exercises.

    That doesn't sound like enough calories to be sustainable

    Yes, I couldn't afford to lose weight slowly and gradually. I had to be more extreme because of the reason why I had to lose it. Basically I have to get low and check if my medical problem still persists.

    Your doctor told you to crash diet to lose the weight quickly?

    He told me to diet. I went on a crash diet. Not good huh?

    No. This could aggravate your condition. I have an appointment with my hepatogist on 3/7. I'll ask him his thoughts on this. He is one of the head transplant surgeons at Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit, and is well respected in these parts.
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 460 Member
    Did they diagnose with an MRI?
  • Saifnasirpk
    Saifnasirpk Posts: 26 Member
    Did they diagnose with an MRI?

    No, just an ultrasound. That's how he spotted the fatty liver
  • Saifnasirpk
    Saifnasirpk Posts: 26 Member
    I have the same thing but my doctor didn't tell me I had to lose weight quickly, that's just you thinking that. I've lost 21 pounds but in 4 months. Keep it sustainable. Otherwise, the weight will just come back on.

    So after losing the weight did the fatty liver go away or get reduced. ALT levels change?
  • orangegato
    orangegato Posts: 6,555 Member
    That level of transaminase elevation is extremely mild. If other liver enzymes and bilirubin are normal, I’d expect a hepatologist to not be concerned and repeat the labs. Are you on any meds? Many go through the liver and can cause a mild elevation in liver enzymes that has no consequences. I know someone who had transaminase levels above 1000 (same normal reference range) from a Med and it all normalized eventually.
  • Saifnasirpk
    Saifnasirpk Posts: 26 Member
    orangegato wrote: »
    That level of transaminase elevation is extremely mild. If other liver enzymes and bilirubin are normal, I’d expect a hepatologist to not be concerned and repeat the labs. Are you on any meds? Many go through the liver and can cause a mild elevation in liver enzymes that has no consequences. I know someone who had transaminase levels above 1000 (same normal reference range) from a Med and it all normalized eventually.

    No medication. Everything Normal. Just raised ALT and fatty liver