March 2018 Running Challenge
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A couple more bits of trail etiquette, which would seem to be obvious, but apparently not because I seem to come across this every race
- Do not plug both of your ears with ear buds. If you must have your music, just use one ear bud, not two. You need to hear people.
- Do not use a mini speaker clipped on to your pack. Nobody wants to hear your music on the trail. No, not one person. Use a single ear bud if you must.
Which leads me to a third rule- Don't let idiots take away from the joy of trail running.
All these "rules" all come down to common sense and consideration. Unfortunately not everyone has common sense.
These apply to all races. HATE people who do the speakers. No one else wants to hear your music. And since I only have one ear bud in, I miss parts of my podcast because of your loud music.4 -
I thought "on your left" was standard passing fare. I live in Denver and we have a very busy trail system within the city and suburbs, in addition to many, many hiking and mountain biking areas. Bikers are generally very good about "on your left," or I am noticing more common is a bell (especially for mountain bikers negotiating a hill).
When I went to LA a bit ago...not so much.2 -
@skippygirlsmom ouch! Gentle hugs and I hope you feel better soon.
@HRKinchen Woot! You've totally got this. Can't wait to hear all about it.
I've just done an easy 10k (on the treadmill seeing as there's another nor' easter currently blowing through) to see how my new shoes feel. I've got a 5k road race at the weekend and didn't want to break the runners' cardinal rule of nothing new on race day. Anyhoo, they feel pretty darn good. I'll get a few more miles on them and then order a couple of extra pairs for stockpiling.3 -
@skippygirlsmom - oh no! I'm so sorry that you fell. That sounds really bad. Big hug! But just a virtual non-painful one.
@hrkinchen - I was about 60 posts behind so I saw your "I am thinking of signing up for a HM" and then all the "DO ITs!" And I thought that asking in this thread about signing up for a run is like asking a little kid if they want candy. Yes! We are all addicted! Glad you signed up!
3/1 - rest day
3/2 - 5 miles + Strength training - W6-C
3/3 - 26 miles cycling
3/4 - 3 miles + strength training -w6-D
3/5 - 3.5 miles + strength training W7-A
3/6 - 4.5 miles
3/7 - strength training W7-B
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@7lenny7 you mean I shouldn't blast "No Vaseline" at JaJa1
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@skippygirlsmom Ouch! Sorry to hear about your fall and hope you recover swiftly. Virtual hug clicked.
@HRKinchen Fantastic news that you've signed up for your first half...you'll do great!
Took it real easy for today's run, and the knee only grumbled a little if I started to step up my pace any. It feels much better now, so I consider myself lucky to have missed just one day.
02 - 27.37
05 - 15.59
07 - 11.93
Total: 54.89 / 250 miles5 -
5.26 miles outside - it was cold and very windy.
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Hi! I’m new to mfp and just came across this thread. I love it! Everyone is so supportive of each other. I’m trying to get ready for my first marathon, my longest was a hm. I think my goals are:
1. 120 miles for March
2. Increase the distance on my long run days13 -
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Does anyone else enjoy running barefoot? I always run barefoot on the treadmill.
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@katryan1626 welcome! What marathon are you signed up for?
@mommarobb ...your profile photo...wow! You are amazing! I bet you inspire a lot of people.3 -
7 miles tonight with Kody while my son was in confirmation class. They ended it early so I didn't get my planned 8.5 in.
NO IT BAND PAIN! I'm stoked about that. Granted, only 7 miles, but I'm starting to feel like the progress is real now.
Also had a a great average pace of 8:23 and an avg. cadence of 182...first time over 180.
Another pair of new shoes tonight. This time it was a pair of Altra One 2.5's. They look like clown shoes with the wide toe box.
March total: 39 miles
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Welcome @katryan1626 ! Good luck on the marathon! You should find several folks here have tackled and conqured that distance.
@mommarobb I can manage about a mile, before my feet blister! What's your secret? Love the progress you've made!!!!0 -
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.8 at pt today- brings me to a whopping 2 for the month- which I think means I’ve already doubled last month.11
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03/01/18 - Rest
03/02/18 - 8 miles @ 8:51
03/03/18 - 9 miles @ 9:29
03/04/18 - Meetings instead of running
03/05/18 - 11 miles @ 9:11
03/06/18 - 11 miles @ 8:59
03/07/18 - 10 miles @ 9:04
Big Hairy Audacious Goal: Sub 4 hours in Pittsburgh 2018!
Official Marathon PR: 4:11:28
Next Races (more as I find them):
03/17/18 - Shamrock Shuffle Half Marathon + 5k + 1mile
04/07/18 - Achilles 9.3 Challange (10k and 5k back to back)
05/06/18 - Pittsburgh Marathon - aiming for sub four hours.
05/12/18 - Glacier Ridge 50k Trail Ultra (I must hate myself)
2020 - Disney World Dopey! (if can raise funds)
I got started VERY late today. It was already sunset even, but I put on my flashy belt and flashy arm bands and went. I started out too warm, but got cold as the run went on and full night took over. I actually got home at 9 miles, and said, "bah!" and turned around for one more to make it an even ten.
Been thinking a lot about my form when I run. Most people do not realize your running form starts with your head position. Your feet are like the end of the whip, and your head is like the tip of the handle. If you do not get your head and shoulders right, your form can really suffer. Not to mention you are restricting your air way, which is never good. I spend 60+ hours a week at my day job hunched over a computer so have to fight that when I am running. So when I feel like my pace is slipping, I focus on form, and magically my pace picks back up.8 -
7 miles tonight with Kody while my son was in confirmation class. They ended it early so I didn't get my planned 8.5 in.
NO IT BAND PAIN! I'm stoked about that. Granted, only 7 miles, but I'm starting to feel like the progress is real now.
Also had a a great average pace of 8:23 and an avg. cadence of 182...first time over 180.
Another pair of new shoes tonight. This time it was a pair of Altra One 2.5's. They look like clown shoes with the wide toe box.
Great news about your IT Band!!!!
How are you liking the clown shoes?
I am really interested in trying the Altras. There is a very good chance I will just order them off Amazon and roll the dice that they will fit. Probably this weekend. I need trail shoes, so probably just bite the bullet and buy them and hope I guessed all the stuffs right.0 -
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@7lenny7 Thanks. I do try to inspire people.
@Elise4270 Thanks. My secret... I hate shoes unless I am dressing up, then I love them. I have always went barefoot as much as possible and I think that has toughened them up. I find that wearing shoes on the treadmill makes my muscles hurt.4 -
JessicaMcB wrote: »@7lenny7 you mean I shouldn't blast "No Vaseline" at JaJa
@JessicaMcB we might be able to make an exception for that when the moment is right0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »7 miles tonight with Kody while my son was in confirmation class. They ended it early so I didn't get my planned 8.5 in.
NO IT BAND PAIN! I'm stoked about that. Granted, only 7 miles, but I'm starting to feel like the progress is real now.
Also had a a great average pace of 8:23 and an avg. cadence of 182...first time over 180.
Another pair of new shoes tonight. This time it was a pair of Altra One 2.5's. They look like clown shoes with the wide toe box.
Great news about your IT Band!!!!
How are you liking the clown shoes?
I am really interested in trying the Altras. There is a very good chance I will just order them off Amazon and roll the dice that they will fit. Probably this weekend. I need trail shoes, so probably just bite the bullet and buy them and hope I guessed all the stuffs right.
I have Altra trail shoes so I knew what to expect for fit. Still, on pavement I'm still using a 10mm drop for most runs so it does feel different with zero drop. I'll wear these for a couple of runs then put them in reserve.
It's hard to say for certain after just one run but they felt great. They look like they are curved inward too far but they felt fine.
The ugly Nike shoes I broke out Saturday are 4mm drop so I'll continue to use those as a low drop shoe to mix in with my 10mm drop Glycerins and Gel Nimbuses (Nimbi?)
My feet seem to be easy to please. I've had 12 different shoe models and the only pair which don't work great are Salomon Speedcross, though if I use a thin sock and lots of lube, those will work.0 -
In Orlando for vacation/anniversary weekend. The gym was closed so I just ran around the complex instead. It was nice to have a cooler night for running but it was late so I only did a short run. Had I realized I was that close to two miles, I would have gone a little longer. Also forgot today was C25K day so I’ll do it tomorrow.
1.94 - 13.97/62
Upcoming races:
Orphan Run 4 Hope 5K - April 14
Spartan Sprint - December 9
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YTD:
25,611’ gain
251 miles
Mar7
6.0 road with Sabrina
1:10’47!! Felt strong!
Mar5
2.0mi 1-15% incline
30min, EP7 -
fitoverfortymom wrote: »Can anyone give some advice and guidance on the etiquette for passing and being passed on a single track trail during a race?
Usually the trails are not closed to other uses during a race. When passing hikers, going the same direction, be sure to give them an earlier warning than you would for a runner. Though the standard thing to say is "on your left", usually a hiker hears "left" and moves to their left, the realizes their mistake and moves to the right..it can get ugly. To avoid the confusion, I just politely say, "Excuse me, can I sneak through?". Let them decide which way to move. If they have headphones or earbuds and can't hear you, say it anyway. If there is no response, repeat louder, then just try to pass them safely and quickly when there's a spot you can do so
When passing hikers going the other way, unless they move off to the side early, I plan on stepping aside for them, since I feel we're intruding on their space more than they're intruding on ours. They usually move out of my way though. <ETA: It's rare I have to step off for approaching hikers. They usually move first>
Key points
Always pass safely
Always be polite
Never assume you have right of way
If there's any question, communicate your intent and give the other person time to respond.
Some people will be *kitten*. Don't let them *kitten* on your parade.
So much truth ^^^. It's not just Hikers that only hear " left" I have had lots of walkers, dog walkers and stroller rollers. Now I usually just call out " Runner " I have had people with earbuds that had their music so loud they couldn't hear me, I have had to tap them on a shoulder and that makes them jump - and sometimes use xxxxx Kitten language.
@RunsOnEspresso At my Emperor's Challenge Race last year in the Mountains of Northern BC ( Canada ) I had the same experience where I ran into a wall of runners stopped at the top of a short steep section with clay granules = super slider hill. Maybe some one had a runner fall ( @Elise4270 Running Badges of Honour & @skippygirlsmom Virtual Hug to both ) so everyone stopped and caused a bungy cord effect. I stepped around them and went down a piece of Virgin terrain with zero shoe marks & survived.
Wednesday Night Club run, Daylight Glorious Daylight.
11.03 km up 12 ft Davis Hill and out on Grouard Trail.
More Walking than running on the climb out of the Valley. It is one of the steeper hills out of the Valley and usually the first one that gets melted off so that's why we end up on it. Increasing my distance and getting some hill work.
I had a slug of water before I left home and another one before I hit the trail, could feel it sitting very heavy in the stomach for the first 2 km.
03/01 0.0 km – 0.0km – 140.0 km – YTD 128.32km
03/03 12.0 km – 12.km – 128.0 km
03/04 5.0 km – 17.km – 123.0 km
03/07 11.0 km - 28 km - 112.0 km - YTD 156.32 km 12 ft Davis - Grouard
@JessicaMcB You made me google "No Vaseline" . Not the music I grew up with.
Salming shoes would have to be 12D minimum for me to get my toes in.katryan1626 wrote: »
I think this is my ticker.. hopefully it works
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March goal: March
3/1 3.41
3/2 3.68
3/3 3.12
3/4 rest
3/5 6.50
3/6 3.23
3/7 5.56
Total 25.50
@skippygirlsmom ; deep breaths with a pillow hugged to your chest....and rest, lots of rest....
Ticker is my goal for 2018 and progress to date:
Upcoming races:
Big Island International Marathon -now a Boston qualifier!! (only doing the 5k) 3/18/18
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03/05
Ok! I'm in!
I've started the c25k a few times but always flail at week 5! I'm currently on week 4 so should have a 5 km completed by the end of the month. Have done 2 10km runs before so aiming to get back up to that by end of the year!
A local park does timed 5k every day so my goal for march will be 50km and to do a timed 5km on 30th march! ❤️
03/06
No run as husband was late home from work...
03/07 3.55km
Nice early 6am wake up! Have to fit my running in early before husband goes to work, can't do evenings as I've got a thesis to be writing to get my masters!
03/08 Another nice early outing! 3.95km completed.11 -
3/1: 2.4k -as warmup for strength training-
3/2: 8.1k -Easy-
3/3: 10.5k -Treadmill easy-
3/4: 5k -Easy with company-
3/5: 4.1k -as w/u and c/d fom HIIT-
3/6: 7.23k -Not so easy- and 1.5k -as warmup for strength training-
3/8: 7.12k -Easy-
Goal: 46/120k
Morning run and gave it a little harder this time. Still trying to reach my pre-injury physical condition but it's hard. It will come steady and slowly!
Stay free of injuries!
Upcoming races:
4/1: Alexander the Great 10k Thessaloniki10 -
A couple more bits of trail etiquette, which would seem to be obvious, but apparently not because I seem to come across this every race
- Do not plug both of your ears with ear buds. If you must have your music, just use one ear bud, not two. You need to hear people.
I do remember the your parking incident! Awful!0 -
@JessicaMcB All hail the winter queen!!
Congrats for your 1st place in Gord's Frozen A** hahah 50k. You are inspiring us all!!5 -
It's interesting reading the discussion on trail running. I've learned all of my trail passing etiquette in Poland... so I apologize in advance if I come run one of your races, forget where I am, and just push right past you. I guess its just a different way of showing respect. Invading your personal space here seems normal and accepted, but invading your head space by talking to you would just be weird and rude.
Today's run was a 10.5k speed workout (really never thought I'd say that!). I alternated between 1k slow and 1k at or faster than goal 5k race pace. Seemed like a lot of work just to go at what is an average pace for a lot of people... but stop comparing!... I know it will be worth it if I can get comfortable with that pace. Progress, one step at a time, I enjoyed the run.
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