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How to track HIIT, specifically Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred
remoore23
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When I searched for both "HIIT", "High Intensity Interval Training" and "Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred", there were no results. This is a workout that has three six-minute circuits of 3 minutes of strength, 2 minutes of cardio, and 1 minute of ab work, and it meant to be very intense. How do you record things like that? Thank you 
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Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.16 -
I always logged 30 Day Shred as "circuit training." It was one of the first things I searched how to do here like 5 years ago.2
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Thank you for your response, diannethegeek! 4
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I only ever train HIIT, weight lifting, or some other jumbled up style of fitness as long as I’m staying strong and burning calories, without my polar flow and heart rate monitor I wouldn’t know I burn 900-1400 cal a session, when I sync it up to my polar flow app it syncs as walking here on MFP and I just go down and readjust the calorie count to the actual count.7
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Circuit training would be reasonable.
By the way resist any suggestion to use a heart rate monitor as that would be completely inappropriate and just give highly exaggerated calorie counts.4 -
Thank you karafa95. Thank goodness we have such knowledgeable fellow posters who are willing to give their opinions so freely, without even being asked!8
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Thank you karafa95. Thank goodness we have such knowledgeable fellow posters who are willing to give their opinions so freely, without even being asked!
Interesting take. Anyone knowledgeable would know that HR is an extremely unreliable approach to estimating calorie expenditure in the type of activity you describe.
I'd agree with the suggestions to log as circuit training. 18 minutes of mixed calisthenics doesn't really compare well to anything else in the database.4 -
I only ever train HIIT, weight lifting, or some other jumbled up style of fitness as long as I’m staying strong and burning calories, without my polar flow and heart rate monitor I wouldn’t know I burn 900-1400 cal a session, when I sync it up to my polar flow app it syncs as walking here on MFP and I just go down and readjust the calorie count to the actual count.
Too bad you're not burning anything like 900-1400 calories per session.7 -
stanmann571 wrote: »
Too bad you're not burning anything like 900-1400 calories per session.
Oh I don't know. I burned 900 calories on Tuesday night. Had to run 10 miles to do it though
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MeanderingMammal wrote: »
Oh I don't know. I burned 900 calories on Tuesday night. Had to run 10 miles to do it though
LOL, I can do it in 6... but I've got a few pounds on you, and I'm willing to bet that my 6 miles and your 10 were in about the same timeframe. In fact, it's possible that your 10 were faster than my 6.
And Neither of us finished in under 45 minutes.3 -
I was trying to be clever and passive aggressive but I’m not sure that is really working for me. I appreciate Karafa95’s response. I’m not sure if that was communicated. If what she is doing is working for her, that is great and maybe there is something valuable for me there.
I didn’t ask for opinions about the Jillian Michael’s video. I actually don’t usually do workout videos and things like that but I have seen several different posts with pictures that show people who have made visible progress following her program so I decided to give it a try. I don’t need to justify that to anyone. It feels to me like giving unasked for opinions is self-aggrandizing and aggressive. It feels condescending and unnecessary. I don’t always agree with everyone’s ideas of how fitness or nutrition works but I usually don’t feel a need to try to change their minds; it usually doesn’t work, especially if it’s presented in a way that is calculated to make the person feel small and stupid.
I’m posting this because I realized how my comment to Karafa95 could be misinterpreted as my saying that I think she is being impolite in some way and I actually really find her input valuable. I don’t have to agree with every little thing to appreciate her sharing her experience and to learn something what she has to say.
I always find it kind of amusing when people go to great lengths to criticize people when they offer opinions in a rude and condescending way and here I am getting swept up in it. Meanwhile I’m doing this sneakily at work because I just can’t stop thinking about it. Normally I try to just not engage and I’ve allowed myself to be sucked in. It makes me feel angry and defensive when people try to condescend to me and imagine that I will just stop doing what I am doing simply because they tell me to. Now I have communicated that I appreciate non-judgmental thoughts and opinions and I’m going to try to go back to being productive.
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stanmann571 wrote: »LOL, I can do it in 6... but I've got a few pounds on you, and I'm willing to bet that my 6 miles and your 10 were in about the same timeframe. In fact, it's possible that your 10 were faster than my 6.
And Neither of us finished in under 45 minutes.
I was very slow, took me 1:50, as it was my last solid training run before my next race.
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MeanderingMammal wrote: »
I was very slow, took me 1:50, as it was my last solid training run before my next race.
Is that the 50K you've been planning or just a half/full?0 -
It's a full, although apparently conditions are pretty rough underfoot and it may be a bit longer.
The 50K is the first day of a double weekend in April.2 -
I was trying to be clever and passive aggressive but I’m not sure that is really working for me. I appreciate Karafa95’s response. I’m not sure if that was communicated. If what she is doing is working for her, that is great and maybe there is something valuable for me there.
I didn’t ask for opinions about the Jillian Michael’s video. I actually don’t usually do workout videos and things like that but I have seen several different posts with pictures that show people who have made visible progress following her program so I decided to give it a try. I don’t need to justify that to anyone. It feels to me like giving unasked for opinions is self-aggrandizing and aggressive. It feels condescending and unnecessary. I don’t always agree with everyone’s ideas of how fitness or nutrition works but I usually don’t feel a need to try to change their minds; it usually doesn’t work, especially if it’s presented in a way that is calculated to make the person feel small and stupid.
I’m posting this because I realized how my comment to Karafa95 could be misinterpreted as my saying that I think she is being impolite in some way and I actually really find her input valuable. I don’t have to agree with every little thing to appreciate her sharing her experience and to learn something what she has to say.
I always find it kind of amusing when people go to great lengths to criticize people when they offer opinions in a rude and condescending way and here I am getting swept up in it. Meanwhile I’m doing this sneakily at work because I just can’t stop thinking about it. Normally I try to just not engage and I’ve allowed myself to be sucked in. It makes me feel angry and defensive when people try to condescend to me and imagine that I will just stop doing what I am doing simply because they tell me to. Now I have communicated that I appreciate non-judgmental thoughts and opinions and I’m going to try to go back to being productive.
Don't worry. Your passive aggressiveness and dislike for all of us in this thread came through loud and clear to me. Next time, the search function is your friend. You can skip asking us pleebs questions and then insulting us and just get your answer. Win win for everyone, really. :drinker:20 -
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Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%2 -
Thank you karafa95. Thank goodness we have such knowledgeable fellow posters who are willing to give their opinions so freely, without even being asked!
Uh-oh.
Heart rate monitors are designed to give calorie burn estimates for steady state cardio only. Because hiit, circuit training and strength training are not steady state cardio......the estimations provided to the poster above are not remotely accurate.5 -
100_PROOF_ wrote: »
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.3 -
100_PROOF_ wrote: »
This 1000000%
No this is total nonsense. I've taken the Body Shred class at my gym and it is totally interval training (not circuit training). It's a high intensity class and a great one (in my experience it burns around 150-200 calories in 30 minutes, for an avg sized woman). It definitely has high intensity intervals and the ab portion is basically a rest interval. It's not a Tabata interval but not every HIIT workout needs to be Tabata.
It's really not the nicest thing to question the validity or the workout or the way she is describing a workout - more importantly we should be answering the question and providing thoughtful answers and supporting people who go out of their way to get great workouts.13 -
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?7 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT5 -
Uh-oh.
Heart rate monitors are designed to give calorie burn estimates for steady state cardio only. Because hiit, circuit training and strength training are not steady state cardio......the estimations provided to the poster above are not remotely accurate.
I just totally learned something new! Here I'd been looking for a heart rate monitor to help more accurately figure out calorie burn, but most of what I do is not steady state. Thanks to you, and the others, who taught me a new fact! 6 -
Think I might start claiming my cycle training as sixty minutes of HIIT for bonus bragging rights down the pub - 9 min "flat" / 1 min "hill" intervals.
It seems that every workout with varied intensity is getting the HIIT label hung on it these days.9 -
stanmann571 wrote: »
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT
Beat me to it. Took the words right out of my mouth.
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It seems that every workout with varied intensity is getting the HIIT label hung on it these days.
Which was exactly my point. And which was only illustrated even more clearly by a subsequent poster.
All HIIT = interval training, but not all interval training = HIIT. Despite what current fad marketing wants to call it.5 -
When I searched for both "HIIT", "High Intensity Interval Training" and "Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred", there were no results. This is a workout that has three six-minute circuits of 3 minutes of strength, 2 minutes of cardio, and 1 minute of ab work, and it meant to be very intense. How do you record things like that? Thank you
I logged it as gymnastics. It worked for me.
Basically, choose, aerobics, Pilates, circuit training, or gymnastics, etc, log, and monitor. Adjust your calories depending on results.
Cheers, h.3 -
stanmann571 wrote: »
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT
No you’re totally missing the point. Jillian Michaels Body Shred doesn’t just have intervals with “varied intensity” like one person said. It is a structured workout with explicit high intensity intervals and explicit low intensity/rest intervals. Circuit training doesn’t have these rest intervals at all (I know because I have done both for several years). I think you just heard the name Jillian Michaels and just heard it was calisthenics or circuit training and it’s neither, it’s interval training, it just doesn’t happen to be done in a Tabata format which is currently the most popular format of HIIT. And if your concern is marketing...I don’t even think Jillian markets it as HIIT, it seemed like more of an observation from the original poster (which happens to be a fair observation that many people who take the class would agree with).
Feel frew to explain why you think Body Shred is circuit training (but only if you have done it - if you are running on assumptions don’t feel the need to post).7 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »
No you’re totally missing the point. Jillian Michaels Body Shred doesn’t just have intervals with “varied intensity” like one person said. It is a structured workout with explicit high intensity intervals and explicit low intensity/rest intervals. Circuit training doesn’t have these rest intervals at all (I know because I have done both for several years). I think you just heard the name Jillian Michaels and just heard it was calisthenics or circuit training and it’s neither, it’s interval training, it just doesn’t happen to be done in a Tabata format which is currently the most popular format of HIIT. And if your concern is marketing...I don’t even think Jillian markets it as HIIT, it seemed like more of an observation from the original poster (which happens to be a fair observation that many people who take the class would agree with).
Feel frew to explain why you think Body Shred is circuit training (but only if you have done it - if you are running on assumptions don’t feel the need to post).
By all means, if it makes you feel better to call it HIIT and it helps you stick to your workouts and get results, go for it. As long as it's helping you and you're getting results, the fact that it's not HIIT (which it isn't) is more or less irrelevant.
Now I'm back to my usual 3 day upper/lower split workout doing 3 sets of 8-12 reps on my exercises. I call it Stronglifts 5x5.11
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