How to track HIIT, specifically Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred
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100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?7 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT5 -
Thank you karafa95. Thank goodness we have such knowledgeable fellow posters who are willing to give their opinions so freely, without even being asked!
Uh-oh.
Heart rate monitors are designed to give calorie burn estimates for steady state cardio only. Because hiit, circuit training and strength training are not steady state cardio......the estimations provided to the poster above are not remotely accurate.
I just totally learned something new! Here I'd been looking for a heart rate monitor to help more accurately figure out calorie burn, but most of what I do is not steady state. Thanks to you, and the others, who taught me a new fact!6 -
Think I might start claiming my cycle training as sixty minutes of HIIT for bonus bragging rights down the pub - 9 min "flat" / 1 min "hill" intervals.
It seems that every workout with varied intensity is getting the HIIT label hung on it these days.9 -
stanmann571 wrote: »NicoleHaki wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT
Beat me to it. Took the words right out of my mouth.1 -
It seems that every workout with varied intensity is getting the HIIT label hung on it these days.
Which was exactly my point. And which was only illustrated even more clearly by a subsequent poster.
All HIIT = interval training, but not all interval training = HIIT. Despite what current fad marketing wants to call it.5 -
When I searched for both "HIIT", "High Intensity Interval Training" and "Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred", there were no results. This is a workout that has three six-minute circuits of 3 minutes of strength, 2 minutes of cardio, and 1 minute of ab work, and it meant to be very intense. How do you record things like that? Thank you
I logged it as gymnastics. It worked for me.
Basically, choose, aerobics, Pilates, circuit training, or gymnastics, etc, log, and monitor. Adjust your calories depending on results.
Cheers, h.3 -
stanmann571 wrote: »NicoleHaki wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT
No you’re totally missing the point. Jillian Michaels Body Shred doesn’t just have intervals with “varied intensity” like one person said. It is a structured workout with explicit high intensity intervals and explicit low intensity/rest intervals. Circuit training doesn’t have these rest intervals at all (I know because I have done both for several years). I think you just heard the name Jillian Michaels and just heard it was calisthenics or circuit training and it’s neither, it’s interval training, it just doesn’t happen to be done in a Tabata format which is currently the most popular format of HIIT. And if your concern is marketing...I don’t even think Jillian markets it as HIIT, it seemed like more of an observation from the original poster (which happens to be a fair observation that many people who take the class would agree with).
Feel frew to explain why you think Body Shred is circuit training (but only if you have done it - if you are running on assumptions don’t feel the need to post).7 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »NicoleHaki wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT
No you’re totally missing the point. Jillian Michaels Body Shred doesn’t just have intervals with “varied intensity” like one person said. It is a structured workout with explicit high intensity intervals and explicit low intensity/rest intervals. Circuit training doesn’t have these rest intervals at all (I know because I have done both for several years). I think you just heard the name Jillian Michaels and just heard it was calisthenics or circuit training and it’s neither, it’s interval training, it just doesn’t happen to be done in a Tabata format which is currently the most popular format of HIIT. And if your concern is marketing...I don’t even think Jillian markets it as HIIT, it seemed like more of an observation from the original poster (which happens to be a fair observation that many people who take the class would agree with).
Feel frew to explain why you think Body Shred is circuit training (but only if you have done it - if you are running on assumptions don’t feel the need to post).
By all means, if it makes you feel better to call it HIIT and it helps you stick to your workouts and get results, go for it. As long as it's helping you and you're getting results, the fact that it's not HIIT (which it isn't) is more or less irrelevant.
Now I'm back to my usual 3 day upper/lower split workout doing 3 sets of 8-12 reps on my exercises. I call it Stronglifts 5x5.11 -
For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.6 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »NicoleHaki wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT
No you’re totally missing the point. Jillian Michaels Body Shred doesn’t just have intervals with “varied intensity” like one person said. It is a structured workout with explicit high intensity intervals and explicit low intensity/rest intervals.
Interval training ≠ HIIT. That is not to say it doesn't have an effect, but it's not HIIT.
I wouldn't describe C25K as HIIT, but I would describe it as interval training.4 -
For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
F**k me, buzzword bingo. And the classic what you're reading is nonsense red flag of for up to 24-48 hours post training8 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
No it's not. I've done the Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred videos which is what she's talking about. I also know what actual true HIIT is. They aren't the same thing. Not even in the same universe.
Interval training and high intensity interval training aren't the same thing. There's a difference.
Log the 30 day shred as circuit training, that's weight lifting with an aerobic component and that's exactly what it is.4 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
F**k me, buzzword bingo. And the classic what you're reading is nonsense red flag of for up to 24-48 hours post training
I think "it's kinetic" was my absolute favourite. Wow - exercise that involves movement, truly groundbreaking.....
If OP is still reading - you do realise that an attack on JM's ludicrous marketing isn't an attack on you or even an attack on your exercise choices?6 -
middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Yeah but what you’re missing about the 3-2-1 format is that the 3 and the 2 min intervals are high intensity intervals and the 1 min intervals are low intensity/reat intervals (ex: hold a plank or boat pose).
Suppose you wanted to argue that HIIT is different from interval training and Body Shred would qualify as interval but not HIIT. I suppose you could say that but that still doesn’t make Body Shred circuit training.2 -
middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Exactly this. I've done it. It's a fun workout, and IMO a really good way to start. Not HIIT. Circuit training is a good way to log it (although circuit training can overstate calories if you are new to working out.)
I find it mystifying that some are seeing "it's not HIIT" as some kind of insult. Personally, I rarely do HIIT, as I prefer other kinds of workouts.7 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Yeah but what you’re missing about the 3-2-1 format is that the 3 and the 2 min intervals are high intensity intervals and the 1 min intervals are low intensity/reat intervals (ex: hold a plank or boat pose).
Suppose you wanted to argue that HIIT is different from interval training and Body Shred would qualify as interval but not HIIT. I suppose you could say that but that still doesn’t make Body Shred circuit training.
No, it's 3 min of strength (not HIIT, but with some cardio elements to it), 2 min of cardio (again, not HIIT), and 1 min of abs.2 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Yeah but what you’re missing about the 3-2-1 format is that the 3 and the 2 min intervals are high intensity intervals and the 1 min intervals are low intensity/reat intervals (ex: hold a plank or boat pose).
Suppose you wanted to argue that HIIT is different from interval training and Body Shred would qualify as interval but not HIIT. I suppose you could say that but that still doesn’t make Body Shred circuit training.
The 3- and 2-minute intervals might be higher intensity than the 1-minute interval, but they are NOT high enough to qualify it as HIIT. HIIT requires a level of effort that is, quite frankly, unsustainable for 5 minutes without a break.5 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
F**k me, buzzword bingo. And the classic what you're reading is nonsense red flag of for up to 24-48 hours post training
I think "it's kinetic" was my absolute favourite. Wow - exercise that involves movement, truly groundbreaking.....
If OP is still reading - you do realise that an attack on JM's ludicrous marketing isn't an attack on you or even an attack on your exercise choices?
Exactly. In my initial post, I first answered the question ("log it as circuit training", which is what it is). The second paragraph was a tangential commentary on the woo in fitness industry marketing and their trendiness of calling everything "HIIT" nowadays. Not intended (or phrased) as an attack against the OP or her exercise choices.4
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