Going nuts over how to diet

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  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,260 Member
    EdwardMH2 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    I suspect that Edward is just using the default MFP macros of 50% carbs, 30% fat and 20% protein and has just mis-reported the macro names.

    I was but swapped the Protein and carb % today.

    Why?
  • musicfan68
    musicfan68 Posts: 1,143 Member
    Is there a reason you are trying to do Keto? You only need a calorie deficit - you can eat whatever percentage of carbs you want as long as you are getting sufficient protein and fat.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    EdwardMH2 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    EdwardMH2 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    I suspect that Edward is just using the default MFP macros of 50% carbs, 30% fat and 20% protein and has just mis-reported the macro names.

    I was but swapped the Protein and carb % today.

    Why?

    I was told by someone on a Keto diet at Pickleball my carbs were way too high.

    Too high for what?
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    edited March 2018
    wislawcat wrote: »
    CICO is not the only answer. I was exercising 5 Xs per week eating only 1250 Cals per day so a 300-600 deficit per day and was gaining Weight on a lean protein whole grain low fat diet. Cancer drugs I am on made me carb resistant. I switched to keto Jan 1 at 20 carbs max 60g protein and the rest fat each day I kept total number of cals the same and exercise the same. I’ve lost 15 pounds in 11 weeks. If you read the literature it’s not just water loss. Once you are in ketosis you transition to burning fat stores instead of glucose stores for energy. Ketosis takes a week or so to get into but the transition to fat burning can take 4-6 weeks. A lot of people lose water weight the first two weeks then stall. But if you keep with it you eventually transition and start burning fat and losing weight. The key is not to go in and out of ketosis or you don’t transition. Read book “keto clarity” for science behind it and guidelines. By Moore and Westman M.D. from Duke University.

    Sorry, but that's all woo. You burn more fat because your dietary fat intake is higher, and there is no "metabolic advantage" for a ketogenic diet over any other diet, calories held equal. "Keto Clarity" is full of junk science and cherry-picked research, it's really nothing more than thinly disguised keto propaganda.

    A ketogenic diet is one possible way to lose weight, but only if your calorie intake is less than your calorie expenditure. CICO *is* the only answer, however one manages to achieve it.
  • ceiswyn
    ceiswyn Posts: 2,256 Member
    EdwardMH2 wrote: »
    I was told by someone on a Keto diet at Pickleball my carbs were way too high.

    Why in the names of all the gods and little fishes are you so reluctant to do what everyone here is telling you to do and just pick something and stick with it?

    Why would you rather change what you're doing every day according to what random people in the street suggest?

    Do you actually want to lose weight, or are you scared to try for some reason?
  • ap1972
    ap1972 Posts: 214 Member
    EdwardMH2 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    I suspect that Edward is just using the default MFP macros of 50% carbs, 30% fat and 20% protein and has just mis-reported the macro names.

    I was but swapped the Protein and carb % today.

    No need to worry about Carbs being high. I am same height as you and am now a similar weight, I've lost 12 pounds in last 6-7 weeks using default macros. The only thing that I have tried to do is get a bit more protein in where possible usually at the expense of fat but I tend to hit those ratios without even trying just by eating normally.

  • ap1972
    ap1972 Posts: 214 Member
    EdwardMH2 wrote: »
    Ok I HOPE I went in the right direction.
    I updated my Settings in MFP raising my Daily Calories from 1,510 the changes are as follows.
    Hight 5'10"
    Weight 212 (Current Weight)up from 210
    Gender Still Male :-)
    Goal weight 180 (Will still be happy with 185)
    Activity Level Active up from Lightly Active
    4 workouts a week (Number of times a week I TRY to play pickleball)
    120 min per workout Down from 180 to allow for breaks between games and waiting to go for the ball.
    Though I RARELY sit around I usually go play with the dog between games.
    Lose 1.5 pounds per week down from 2 pounds
    MFP suggested Daily Calories are now 2,130
    My Macros I think are set to 50% Protein, Carbs 20% and Fat 30%

    Any suggestions?

    I'm not sure if you have said what your job is..........Are you basing your activity level on the fact that you play Pickelball regularly? If so I would suggest lowering activity level then log any exercise separately allowing you to eat more on those days.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    wislawcat wrote: »
    CICO is not the only answer. I was exercising 5 Xs per week eating only 1250 Cals per day so a 300-600 deficit per day and was gaining Weight on a lean protein whole grain low fat diet. Cancer drugs I am on made me carb resistant. I switched to keto Jan 1 at 20 carbs max 60g protein and the rest fat each day I kept total number of cals the same and exercise the same. I’ve lost 15 pounds in 11 weeks. If you read the literature it’s not just water loss. Once you are in ketosis you transition to burning fat stores instead of glucose stores for energy. Ketosis takes a week or so to get into but the transition to fat burning can take 4-6 weeks. A lot of people lose water weight the first two weeks then stall. But if you keep with it you eventually transition and start burning fat and losing weight. The key is not to go in and out of ketosis or you don’t transition. Read book “keto clarity” for science behind it and guidelines. By Moore and Westman M.D. from Duke University.

    I have a friend on cancer drugs and she is gaining weight but its because when I helped her out she realized she was eating more calories than she thought. she is not doing keto either and losing just fine. she thought she was eating only 1200 and she was eating over 1600.for her it was water loss and inflammation as she gets lymph-edema. heres an interesting study on reducing carbs and cancer or the prevention of it https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3267662/
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