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DeadliftsAndSprinkles wrote: »Tbh I've been waiting my whole life for an opportunity to make a citizen's arrest but it's never happened
Please video this when it happens0 -
UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Do cops play cops and robbers?
well he has used his cuffs "off duty"
Maybe it was cops and hookers?1 -
DeadliftsAndSprinkles wrote: »Tbh I've been waiting my whole life for an opportunity to make a citizen's arrest but it's never happened
I fully expected this sentace to end with ‘to find my own place. Maybe it’s the party talking, or the chocolate fondu’0 -
kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »So are you secretive in your real life about being a cop?
A lot of cops i’ve met don’t really tell people they’re cops. Do you do that as well? Not a judgement question just wondering
There is a lot of distaste for blue these days is all
I don’t hide it but I don’t advertise it either.
I was on SWAT for 10 years and 4 years assigned to our gang unit. I’m very well known by the ones that would want to hurt me.
I love everything about you did you know?1 -
kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Avocado_AS5 wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Avocado_AS5 wrote: »Are badge bunnies a thing?
This is a good question though. If a guy, even a cute fit guy, started a thread called Ask An Assistant Manager Of An Auto Parts Store - would he have gotten this kind of response, especially from so many ladies?
Well, no, because this thread clearly is ask THE cop. Not some random cop.
I will say that this thread has caused me to talk about more cop stuff than I have my previous two years here.
That's because I used to think you weren't a real cop. I thought you were a stripper cop.
No Mel it’s because I’ve done this job a long time and I don’t like to talk about some of the stuff I’ve seen. I try to be a normal guy with y’all. I like that I can do that here. In my real life I can’t relax the same way as I do here.
Something's can't be unseen. That must be one of the toughest part of the jobs. Ever dated anyone you've stopped/arrested? Ever had a woman flirt her way out of trouble?
I have dated people that I’ve encountered while working yes. I have not dated anyone I’ve arrested. I’ve had anything you can think of offered to me to get out of being arrested.
Who was it offered you the Novel Prize for Literature? I bet it was Alice Munro!
You lost me here brother. Sorry0 -
UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Do cops play cops and robbers?
well he has used his cuffs "off duty"
Maybe it was cops and hookers?
How judgemental?
are you saying only hookers like to be kinky? He might have been the one cuffed 0 -
kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »
Criminal profile.
I was actually kidding but it does happen. I was once pulled over and my son was in the passenger side next to me and the officer immediately asked for his ID as well as mine. Not sure why as I was the one driving and not him but I just got a racist vibe from the dude. Maybe he thought we were illegal or something. That's always an assumption where I live. I hate it.
I ID everyone in the car, every time. A traffic stop is considered an investigation and I have the right to ID everyone in the car. I find a lot of warrants that way.
Arent you only allowed to ask for ID if a person has committed or is suspected of committing a crime?
You can ask anyone anything. Depending on the scenario the individual can just refuse to provide that information. If however as you put it “is part of that investigative stop” they refuse to provide the information then they are subject to being arrested for “resist, delay and obstruction” charges.
I don't see one good reason to ID every passenger in a vehicle for a routine traffic stop as our OP stated is his MO. He blatantly admitted to finding many warrants that way, but unless the person in question has committed or is suspected of committing a crime and not just a passenger in a vehicle or walking down the street freely... you can ask, but they are not required by law to provide you that information. If you arrested them at this point, would that not be an unlawful arrest?
Exactly. You’re correct.
To require that information be provided it has to part of constitutional detention “stop”. But you can ask all you want. There’s nothing wrong with that either. Make sense
I think it's so important to know your rights because there are plenty of "bully" cops out there and intimidate people into doing things or answering questions they don't really have to. I'm a law abiding American citizen and so is my son so we had no problem with him showing his ID even though he was a passenger only. But deep down, I think it was a racial thing. *shrugs*
I hope not. Hugs
I wouldn't think its a racial thing. My husband and I got pulled over in Louisville, Ky. He was driving, his three underage daughters in the back and I was in the passenger seat. They demanded that we provide ID ( and definitely weren't kind about it. They even questioned the girls in the back about their ages. This literally was all due to leaving the mall parking lot and our window tint being dark.
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UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Do cops like the movie Super Troopers?
I’ve seen bits and pieces of it. I liked it
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What equipment are you allowed to take home?0
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UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Do cops like movies about cops?
Not usually no.0 -
kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Do cops like the movie Super Troopers?
I’ve seen bits and pieces of it. I liked it
Watch it all it’s great but don’t watch the sequel2 -
UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Do you like Donnie Whalburg?
Yes!!0 -
kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »princess0lexi wrote: »is it hard to remember what all the police codes mean?
They can differ from department to department.
It becomes second language.
Very very true. are you in Leo?
Yes... Supervisor over multi-agency 911/dispatch center. Law, EMS and Fire.... busy girl here
Appreciate your service.0 -
Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »RunHardBeStrong wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »
Criminal profile.
I was actually kidding but it does happen. I was once pulled over and my son was in the passenger side next to me and the officer immediately asked for his ID as well as mine. Not sure why as I was the one driving and not him but I just got a racist vibe from the dude. Maybe he thought we were illegal or something. That's always an assumption where I live. I hate it.
I ID everyone in the car, every time. A traffic stop is considered an investigation and I have the right to ID everyone in the car. I find a lot of warrants that way.
Arent you only allowed to ask for ID if a person has committed or is suspected of committing a crime?
You can ask anyone anything. Depending on the scenario the individual can just refuse to provide that information. If however as you put it “is part of that investigative stop” they refuse to provide the information then they are subject to being arrested for “resist, delay and obstruction” charges.
I don't see one good reason to ID every passenger in a vehicle for a routine traffic stop as our OP stated is his MO. He blatantly admitted to finding many warrants that way, but unless the person in question has committed or is suspected of committing a crime and not just a passenger in a vehicle or walking down the street freely... you can ask, but they are not required by law to provide you that information. If you arrested them at this point, would that not be an unlawful arrest?
I do see your point but if there is a warrant out for their arrest, haven't they already committed the crime and therefore arrest is warranted? I would have no problem providing my ID if asked in that situation because I know I haven't done anything wrong and I would feel safer knowing they are doing their best to get those off the streets that should be.
So guilty before proven innocent
If there's a warrant out, aren't they already guilty of something? They had to have done something illegal to warrant a warrant, correct? If they are ID'ing everyone in the vehicle then it's not a racial or singled out thing. I guess I don't see anything wrong with it unless they only ID the only minority in the vehicle.0 -
What's the funniest thing to happen to you while on duty?0
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kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »princess0lexi wrote: »is it hard to remember what all the police codes mean?
They can differ from department to department.
It becomes second language.
Very very true. are you in Leo?
Yes... Supervisor over multi-agency 911/dispatch center. Law, EMS and Fire.... busy girl here
Appreciate your service.
Thanks and appreciate yours! Always have your "6"... 1 -
RunHardBeStrong wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »RunHardBeStrong wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »
Criminal profile.
I was actually kidding but it does happen. I was once pulled over and my son was in the passenger side next to me and the officer immediately asked for his ID as well as mine. Not sure why as I was the one driving and not him but I just got a racist vibe from the dude. Maybe he thought we were illegal or something. That's always an assumption where I live. I hate it.
I ID everyone in the car, every time. A traffic stop is considered an investigation and I have the right to ID everyone in the car. I find a lot of warrants that way.
Arent you only allowed to ask for ID if a person has committed or is suspected of committing a crime?
You can ask anyone anything. Depending on the scenario the individual can just refuse to provide that information. If however as you put it “is part of that investigative stop” they refuse to provide the information then they are subject to being arrested for “resist, delay and obstruction” charges.
I don't see one good reason to ID every passenger in a vehicle for a routine traffic stop as our OP stated is his MO. He blatantly admitted to finding many warrants that way, but unless the person in question has committed or is suspected of committing a crime and not just a passenger in a vehicle or walking down the street freely... you can ask, but they are not required by law to provide you that information. If you arrested them at this point, would that not be an unlawful arrest?
I do see your point but if there is a warrant out for their arrest, haven't they already committed the crime and therefore arrest is warranted? I would have no problem providing my ID if asked in that situation because I know I haven't done anything wrong and I would feel safer knowing they are doing their best to get those off the streets that should be.
So guilty before proven innocent
If there's a warrant out, aren't they already guilty of something? They had to have done something illegal to warrant a warrant, correct? If they are ID'ing everyone in the vehicle then it's not a racial or singled out thing. I guess I don't see anything wrong with it unless they only ID the only minority in the vehicle.
Unless only the minority match the description of the subject of the warrant or witness description?0 -
RunHardBeStrong wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »RunHardBeStrong wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »
Criminal profile.
I was actually kidding but it does happen. I was once pulled over and my son was in the passenger side next to me and the officer immediately asked for his ID as well as mine. Not sure why as I was the one driving and not him but I just got a racist vibe from the dude. Maybe he thought we were illegal or something. That's always an assumption where I live. I hate it.
I ID everyone in the car, every time. A traffic stop is considered an investigation and I have the right to ID everyone in the car. I find a lot of warrants that way.
Arent you only allowed to ask for ID if a person has committed or is suspected of committing a crime?
You can ask anyone anything. Depending on the scenario the individual can just refuse to provide that information. If however as you put it “is part of that investigative stop” they refuse to provide the information then they are subject to being arrested for “resist, delay and obstruction” charges.
I don't see one good reason to ID every passenger in a vehicle for a routine traffic stop as our OP stated is his MO. He blatantly admitted to finding many warrants that way, but unless the person in question has committed or is suspected of committing a crime and not just a passenger in a vehicle or walking down the street freely... you can ask, but they are not required by law to provide you that information. If you arrested them at this point, would that not be an unlawful arrest?
I do see your point but if there is a warrant out for their arrest, haven't they already committed the crime and therefore arrest is warranted? I would have no problem providing my ID if asked in that situation because I know I haven't done anything wrong and I would feel safer knowing they are doing their best to get those off the streets that should be.
So guilty before proven innocent
If there's a warrant out, aren't they already guilty of something? They had to have done something illegal to warrant a warrant, correct? If they are ID'ing everyone in the vehicle then it's not a racial or singled out thing. I guess I don't see anything wrong with it unless they only ID the only minority in the vehicle.
Unless only the minority match the description of the subject of the warrant or witness description?
True, then that is a completely different scenario.0 -
Can you re-enact this for us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-qlAGQlMg8 0 -
UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Do cops feel misunderstood?
You killing me. I hate the soap boxes.
It’s simple really. No one likes getting tickets, no one likes to get arrested while they are beating their spouse. The criminals don’t like having an obstacle in their way to take, kill and rape as they see fit. The general public only sees the traffic cop. They perceive that as harassment in the roadways.
But the most hard core people that spit and hate on me are always thrilled to see me when their house is being shot up and they are getting their face kicked in.
I hope that gives some perspective.
But when I’m running emergency traffic to help someone or chasing a guy on foot who just shot someone I don’t think about that. You don’t consider that who you’re helping today was your aggressor yesterday or the one who spit in your face. You simply stop the chaos that’s happening.
But when a child is hurt it takes a piece of my soul. That you can’t get back.8 -
UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »Do cops play cops and robbers?
With my kiddos I do.
My kids can clear a room as good as any swat operator.8 -
CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »So are you secretive in your real life about being a cop?
A lot of cops i’ve met don’t really tell people they’re cops. Do you do that as well? Not a judgement question just wondering
There is a lot of distaste for blue these days is all
I don’t hide it but I don’t advertise it either.
I was on SWAT for 10 years and 4 years assigned to our gang unit. I’m very well known by the ones that would want to hurt me.
I love everything about you did you know?
I love you too!2 -
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kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »LSmith0018 wrote: »Just_J_Now wrote: »
Criminal profile.
I was actually kidding but it does happen. I was once pulled over and my son was in the passenger side next to me and the officer immediately asked for his ID as well as mine. Not sure why as I was the one driving and not him but I just got a racist vibe from the dude. Maybe he thought we were illegal or something. That's always an assumption where I live. I hate it.
I ID everyone in the car, every time. A traffic stop is considered an investigation and I have the right to ID everyone in the car. I find a lot of warrants that way.
Arent you only allowed to ask for ID if a person has committed or is suspected of committing a crime?
You can ask anyone anything. Depending on the scenario the individual can just refuse to provide that information. If however as you put it “is part of that investigative stop” they refuse to provide the information then they are subject to being arrested for “resist, delay and obstruction” charges.
I don't see one good reason to ID every passenger in a vehicle for a routine traffic stop as our OP stated is his MO. He blatantly admitted to finding many warrants that way, but unless the person in question has committed or is suspected of committing a crime and not just a passenger in a vehicle or walking down the street freely... you can ask, but they are not required by law to provide you that information. If you arrested them at this point, would that not be an unlawful arrest?
Exactly. You’re correct.
To require that information be provided it has to part of constitutional detention “stop”. But you can ask all you want. There’s nothing wrong with that either. Make sense
I think it's so important to know your rights because there are plenty of "bully" cops out there and intimidate people into doing things or answering questions they don't really have to. I'm a law abiding American citizen and so is my son so we had no problem with him showing his ID even though he was a passenger only. But deep down, I think it was a racial thing. *shrugs*
I hope not. Hugs
I wouldn't think its a racial thing. My husband and I got pulled over in Louisville, Ky. He was driving, his three underage daughters in the back and I was in the passenger seat. They demanded that we provide ID ( and definitely weren't kind about it. They even questioned the girls in the back about their ages. This literally was all due to leaving the mall parking lot and our window tint being dark.
Well if that's you in the picture then I wouldn't say for your situation it was racial. My son is clearly a latino young man and I'm obviously a latina woman. I live in the south and people automatically make assumptions if you look a certain kind of way. I've seen it happen numerous times and with police officers so I'm automatically on the defense.1 -
invisiblewoman5 wrote: »Are cops working in priveliged neighborhoods considered less ballsy or something than cops who work in the inner cities?
Here we rotate zones. But yes the guys assigned to pie gigs are usually viewed that way0 -
I had a salesman at a car dealership tell me it's illegal to wear earbuds while driving. Is that true? (Or was he just trying to convince me to buy that Bluetooth-enabled car?)0
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kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »Just my thoughts - so cops pull people over for speeding, then don't give a ticket and just a "warning". Are these warnings documented? I was told no and feel they should be. I've been pulled over 3 times for speeding (all under 10 over) and each time received a ticket. The 3rd time I was 9 months pregnant and after the cop said he was giving me a ticket I let him know warnings should be documented and he didn't appreciate my "commentary" he said.
All stops are documented. I take it you’re meaning you given a piece of paper.
There are two types of warnings. Verbal and written. I assure you they all are documented via body cam, in-car cam and paper when it’s issued.
Even if you don’t receive paper with your verbal warning the officer has to complete a traffic stop form. These ensue that the officer is not racially profiling.
But is it documented in MY file, meaning the next time I'm stopped it shows I've been pulled over 3 times and given a speeding ticket each time and no warnings/let go/etc.? And for someone else, it shows they have been pulled over 5 times, given warnings and never received a ticket?0 -
kinetixtrainer2 wrote: »
Presumably they keep strict records of all ammunition etc. So are your cuffs classified as yours? Or is it just considered quicker when it comes to cops going back out on shift?0
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