June 2018 Running Challenge
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PastorVincent wrote: »Just keep in mind EVERYONE in this thread is slow compared to someone. None of us are running 2-hour marathons
neither is anyone OUTSIDE of the thread.....
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on the subject of slow running again....
I was chatting to a group about the forthcoming marathon. The cut-off is seven hours and thirty-seven minutes (don't ask), and many of us plan to be right there at the back with the sweeper.
Because that's where the camaraderie is, and running slow means I get to take all the photos I'll need to update you guys in this thread after.15 -
@seanevan10 I fix old stuff. By that I mean I'm an architectural conservator, working with old buildings, sculptures, decorative plaster and terracotta.
Right now I'm running projects taking down a church bell tower; restoring a fountain commemorating some Czech paratroopers, and advising the Roman Baths how to take care of their....Roman stuff.
It's a pretty varied job - our workshop is an old farm barn I think it was a dairy, so the door high up may have been access to the upper floor whilst the cows were kept inside. The farmhouse attached also has a room high up separate from the rest of the house which was apparently a cheese store.
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girlinahat wrote: »@seanevan10 I fix old stuff. By that I mean I'm an architectural conservator, working with old buildings, sculptures, decorative plaster and terracotta.
Right now I'm running projects taking down a church bell tower; restoring a fountain commemorating some Czech paratroopers, and advising the Roman Baths how to take care of their....Roman stuff.
It's a pretty varied job - our workshop is an old farm barn I think it was a dairy, so the door high up may have been access to the upper floor whilst the cows were kept inside. The farmhouse attached also has a room high up separate from the rest of the house which was apparently a cheese store.
I think you may get the award for Coolest Job Ever.4 -
Thanks everyone for the nice comments about the race. Should have commented sooner, but my rest day after last Saturday’s 10k turned into days. Finally, yesterday my husband convinced me to go for a run after getting home from work. Guessing back to back weekends of soccer tournaments and nightly activities finally took a toll as Mon and Tues I was dragging. It was in the low 80F’s and a slight breeze. Made it to 2.5 miles and walked about a mile back to the house. Felt stiff going in and first run back so plan was 2-3 miles. We are heading to the camper for the weekend so planning on getting some runs in by the lake. It will be hot (90’s) so need to either get up early or go later.
6/6 - 3 miles
6/7 - 1 mile walk
6/9 - 6.2 miles - 10k Race
6/11- 4 mile walk
6/13 - 2.5 miles/ 1 mile walk
Total: 11.7 miles4 -
RespectTheKitty wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »@seanevan10 I fix old stuff. By that I mean I'm an architectural conservator, working with old buildings, sculptures, decorative plaster and terracotta.
Right now I'm running projects taking down a church bell tower; restoring a fountain commemorating some Czech paratroopers, and advising the Roman Baths how to take care of their....Roman stuff.
It's a pretty varied job - our workshop is an old farm barn I think it was a dairy, so the door high up may have been access to the upper floor whilst the cows were kept inside. The farmhouse attached also has a room high up separate from the rest of the house which was apparently a cheese store.
I think you may get the award for Coolest Job Ever.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking!!!!0 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »Re: slow running (again)
I know I will never be front of the pack. I am actually happy being a solid middle of the pack runner. I got 3rd in an age group once and 4th another because the races were super small. I think there were only 4 or 5 people in each age group. My issue is knowing where I was and not being there. I get frustrated with my current times because I know I can go faster. I can be competitive (I like picking people off at races and I've been known to go a little faster on the treadmill if someone next to me is going faster) and I want to compete against myself and my times and my last run/race etc.
Did your 3rd place come with a "well, it's a super-small race with not many people in it" disclaimer? Nope, it did not. It's a 3rd place and something to shout about from the rooftops.
I'm used to being middle of the pack, but have placed a few times in my age-group including a couple of firsts. I'm a fairly average runner for my age, but it just depends on the size of the race and who turns up on the day. And when I place, you can bet I will be crowing about it for days.
Having said that, I was totally freaked out during a 5k race in April when I finished fourth overall and was the second-placed woman. I'm not used to being at the front and was almost tempted to drop back into my comfort zone. Luckily my competitive side won out and I decided there was no way I was going to let the guy right on my shoulder pass me on the finishing line.
(And I love picking people off when I'm racing too.)7 -
PastorVincent wrote: »Just keep in mind EVERYONE in this thread is slow compared to someone. None of us are running 2-hour marathons
Truth. For those who think I'm fast . . . I volunteered at and watched the McMullen Mile last Friday evening. Last year, I PR'd a mile on the track in this one, at 5:45. This year, a guy who hadn't run a race in 7 years came back and ran the mile in 5:28. He's 2 years older than I am.
There's always someone faster.9 -
Didn't get in a run this morning despite eleventy million alarms (my husband hates me now). But it should be easy to get in an hour later today. Welllll... maybe 55 minutes. If I wear my fast shoes 3
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6/1 = 4 miles
6/2 = 5.5 miles
6/3 = 10 miles
6/4 = 3 miles
6/5 = forced rest day (stupid work)
6/6 = 13 miles
6/7 = Vinyasa yoga class
6/8 = 12 miles
6/9 = rest day
6/10 = 8 miles
6/11 = 4 miles & 45 minutes strength training
6/12 = Vinyasa yoga class
6/13 = 10 miles
6/14 = 30 minutes strength training at home
My shins are sore today so I am taking a running rest day.
RE: running slow
My pace has been slowing down a lot lately. I did a lot of speed work last year and managed to get my mile pace just under 10 minutes a mile. After I ran a marathon in December, and injured my foot, the speed work stopped. I am just not motivated right now to start speed work again. This weather is making it a struggle to keep my miles under 11:30 - 12 minutes. I consider it an accomplishment just to get out there and get the miles completed - at any pace. I hate summer.
150 goal miles / 69.5 miles complete
Upcoming Races (so far):
6/23/2018 -Fit Foodie 5k
10/10/2018 -Tough Mudder Half
10/27/2018 -Hill Country Halloween Half Marathon
1/26/2019 -Fitbit Topical 5k
1/27/2019 -Miami Marathon
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@MobyCarp I still think you are fast. According to Garmin, my 1 mile PR is 3:39.58. And it was from a training run in Aug. 2017 - which seems to be around my peak time in speed. But I can't keep up speed for as long.
Believe it or not, I've received some various data from my DNA. Some of it indicates I should build more fast twitch muscle fibers, so I should be fast and not so good with distance. Unfortunately, I want to do distance anyway. Stupid DNA...1 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »On slow pace - I'm not fast either. I've heard that every 10 lbs. adds 0:30 - 1:00 per mile. I put on 32 lbs. when I took a "diet break" from 12/27/17 - 1/15/18. Of that 32 lbs., 19 was fat. As of today, I still have 16.5 lbs. of excess fat to lose and it isn't coming off anytime soon. I just hope to keep upping my mileage because I'm not likely to eat less anytime soon.
ETA: The 0:30 - 1:00 per mile comes out about right for my ~15-20 extra lbs. when considering other factors like weather and BG problems I've had. My 16.5 lbs. is based on excess fat to reach a goal fat %, but I'm still 20 lbs. heavier than my lowest weight. Some of that is lean tissue that I don't mind keeping.
I am in the same boat. I gained 20 pounds back when I injured my foot and could not run in January. I have only managed to lose 5 pounds since then. I don't understand how people diet without running or working out in some way. I can't imagine only eating 1200 calories. I would kill everyone in a hangry rage after a week.
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Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
06/01/18 :::: 1.4 :::: 1.4
06/02/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 1.4
06/03/18 :::: 13.1 :::: 14.5
06/04/18 :::: 0.8 :::: 15.3
06/05/18 :::: 3.6 :::: 18.9
06/06/18 :::: 3.5 :::: 22.4
06/07/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 22.4
06/08/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 22.4
06/09/18 :::: 9.0 :::: 31.4
06/10/18 :::: 6.9 :::: 38.2
06/11/18 :::: 3.1 :::: 41.3
06/12/18 :::: 5.2 :::: 46.5
06/13/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 46.5
06/14/18 :::: 10.0 :::: 56.5
Goal = 110 miles
Long run accomplished! I realized last night that today was going to be the best temps by far while I'm here in Iowa, so I better get the long run in while I can. When I got up though, it looked stormy out and the radar showed some potential thunderstorms on their way. I almost gave up and didn't go at all but I was up and dressed so went for it. I drove to area I had in mind to run and it seemed like the sky was clearer so I set out. It was only about 65 degrees and there was light rain almost the whole time but the storms stayed away. Lucky break!
The route I had in mind was a bit vague but turned out to be pretty good. Lots of bike trails to explore. I did end up with a detour when one of the bridges I had intended to cross was closed for construction. This was about 8 miles in and I really wanted to be done, but had to go farther to get to the next bridge. I was almost back to my car when I hit 10 miles - and it was blessedly close to a Panera, so I stopped and got myself some fortification and walked back to the car (thank you Panera app on the phone as I didn't have any money).
So glad to have that done. Will try to get some short runs done over these next few 90+ degree days.8 -
@amymoreorless -omg I cracked up at your post with your super power! I must be your twin. I never thought of it as a super power but supposedly it is good to sweat. This morning I ran 4.5 in the daylight (normally I'm 4:30am dark runs) and I looked like I had jumped in a pool. Last night I did a 22 mile cycling group ride and forgot a headband under my helmet. Sweat was pouring in my eyes and burning like crazy. I do enjoy weighing myself before a run and then after to see how much I sweated out. Today it was 1.8 pounds.
@RespectTheKitty -probably late to answer your rant, but please keep at it. You have been through so much since I "met" you on here and the fact you keep running is so great. No matter how slow you think are are, you are doing better than everyone on the couch (as they say).
@elise4270 - and you are amazing too!
Actually everyone on here is!
6/1 - strength training - w15-D
6/2 -3.2 miles treadmill
6/3 - 4.3 miles Kansas City
6/4- 5 miles + strength training - in hotel gym so not my usual
6/5 - 5 miles
6/6 - 5 miles +strength training - in hotel gym
6/7 - 5 miles
6/8 - 5 miles
6/9 - travel/REST day
6/10 - 54 miles cycling
6/11 - strength training W16
6/12 - 5 miles
6/13 - strength training and 22 miles cycling
6/14 - 4.5 miles
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June goal: 75 miles
6/3: 6.5 miles
6/5: 4.3 miles
6/6: 4.5 miles
6/7: 5 miles
6/10: 7.2 miles
6/12: 4.3 miles
6/13: 4.5 miles
6/14: 4.5 miles
40.90/75 miles completed
I ran another 4.5 miles this morning. It was a really uneventful run, but it was a really nice run at the same time. And I made it past the half way point to my goal for this month!
I am definitely a slow runner. And I really am ok with being a middle of the pack runner. I've enjoyed reading everyone's take on being a slow runner. There are lots of runners in this thread who are faster than me. And a few who are slower. I started running when I was 48. So far my best 5k was 30:46. I really do want to run one in under 30 minutes. And my half marathon time was 2:43. I doubt I will ever hit a sub 2 HM. But I have a couple of AG awards (and yes they were small races so it wasn't against a large number of people, but I still beat the others my age who raced that day so I am still proud of them.) I try to just compare myself to myself. It can be hard and sometimes I feel a little bad when I see others commenting about a slow run that is a speed I doubt I will ever reach. But for now I love running. Every day that is a run day I am happy that I "get" to run that day. And on my rest days I feel disappointed that I don't "get" to run that day. So far I haven't really had any days that I felt like I "had" to run. And as long as I feel this way about running then I will feel successful even if I am the slowest runner out there.
2018 races:
5/19/18: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon - 2:43:59.7. - 2nd place AG
11/10/18: Wags & Whiskers 5K9 -
amymoreorless wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »On slow pace - I'm not fast either. I've heard that every 10 lbs. adds 0:30 - 1:00 per mile. I put on 32 lbs. when I took a "diet break" from 12/27/17 - 1/15/18. Of that 32 lbs., 19 was fat. As of today, I still have 16.5 lbs. of excess fat to lose and it isn't coming off anytime soon. I just hope to keep upping my mileage because I'm not likely to eat less anytime soon.
ETA: The 0:30 - 1:00 per mile comes out about right for my ~15-20 extra lbs. when considering other factors like weather and BG problems I've had. My 16.5 lbs. is based on excess fat to reach a goal fat %, but I'm still 20 lbs. heavier than my lowest weight. Some of that is lean tissue that I don't mind keeping.
I am in the same boat. I gained 20 pounds back when I injured my foot and could not run in January. I have only managed to lose 5 pounds since then. I don't understand how people diet without running or working out in some way. I can't imagine only eating 1200 calories. I would kill everyone in a hangry rage after a week.
I found it easier to diet when I took a break from running and focused on losing body fat. I lifted weights during that time, but no cardio. I wasn't rungry. I was hungry, but it was easier to control that hunger.3 -
on sweating:
this had come up in a thread a while ago. it's hereditary. and my parents cursed me.
one parent gets red, one parent gets soppy. i inherited both.
i've had people ask me if they should call emergency services or maybe i should sit and rest. and i feel fine. I feel like a hot mess, but fine3 -
I headed out to the lake trail this morning and did 4 miles (with a mile walk to cool down). My left hip is giving me some issues still, but nothing that makes me feel like running is bad for it. Sort of just stiff and tight, I guess? I need to do squats and far more stretching, I think.
I feel everyone who is talking about being old and slow and fat. You're probably not nearly as old or slow or fat as you think you are, but even if you are...you're RUNNING! Congratulations! As I finished up my 4th mile at 55:44, I was starting to feel a little down about it, and then I reminded myself that I just ran 4 flippin' miles without stopping. I spent the first 43 years of my life not able to do that, and now I can. It's not even a special occasion (like being chased by a lion); it's just Thursday. That's pretty cool.
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June 2018 Running
06/01: XT
06/02: 3.02 mile easy run, 8:51 pace + XT
06/03: 14.01 mile long run, 9:09 pace
06/04: 3.01 mile easy run, 9:19 pace + XT
06/05: 7.26 miles- 1.6 wu, 4x(1M@10K/90" rest), 1.6 cd
06/06: Off, rest day
06/07: 6.26 miles- 2 wu, 5K race (21:59), 1 cd
06/08: XT + core
06/09: 3.01 mile easy run, 9:20 pace + XT
06/10: 14.05 mile long run with 10x1' pickups + strength
06/11: 10.07 mile trail run, 9:26 pace
06/12: Off, rest day
06/13: 3.10 mile easy run, 9:20 pace + XT
06/14: 8.02 miles- 1.6 wu; 2@10K pace; 2.8 miles fartlek; 1.6 cd + strength
Total: 71.82 miles
Workout notes:
Today was a rather failed workout. Originally scheduled to do 2x2.5M at 10K pace, which I decided last night should be 2x2M since I'm feeling pretty fatigued this week. Warm up pace was slower than it felt which wasn't a great sign. I ran the first 2M interval a little slower than goal (7:31, 7:30 splits, goal was 7:25) and felt very very tired by the end. Did 1/2 mile recovery instead of the 1/4 mile the plan called for. I could tell I didn't have another 2M in me, so I decided to do it as 2x1M instead with 1/4 mile between. Except 0.55 miles in to the first mile, I started feeling light headed and nauseous so I stopped. Decided to do the rest of the run as a fartlek, roughly 300-400m easy pace/200m at 5K pace or faster. HR was really high for the last half of this run, and it barely went down even during the 1.6 mile cool down. At least I still got some fast running in, it was just very discouraging to have 10K pace feel so hard, especially this close to race day! I think my legs are definitely ready for a cutback next week!
What do you guys do to help bounce back from a bad workout/run?
Upcoming Races
06/07: Strides for Peace 5K PR and 3rd OA - 21:59
06/24: Chicago 10K
07/22: Rock 'n' Roll Chicago 10K
10/07: Chicago Marathon
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BruinsGal_91 wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »Re: slow running (again)
I know I will never be front of the pack. I am actually happy being a solid middle of the pack runner. I got 3rd in an age group once and 4th another because the races were super small. I think there were only 4 or 5 people in each age group. My issue is knowing where I was and not being there. I get frustrated with my current times because I know I can go faster. I can be competitive (I like picking people off at races and I've been known to go a little faster on the treadmill if someone next to me is going faster) and I want to compete against myself and my times and my last run/race etc.
Did your 3rd place come with a "well, it's a super-small race with not many people in it" disclaimer? Nope, it did not. It's a 3rd place and something to shout about from the rooftops.
I'm used to being middle of the pack, but have placed a few times in my age-group including a couple of firsts. I'm a fairly average runner for my age, but it just depends on the size of the race and who turns up on the day. And when I place, you can bet I will be crowing about it for days.
Having said that, I was totally freaked out during a 5k race in April when I finished fourth overall and was the second-placed woman. I'm not used to being at the front and was almost tempted to drop back into my comfort zone. Luckily my competitive side won out and I decided there was no way I was going to let the guy right on my shoulder pass me on the finishing line.
(And I love picking people off when I'm racing too.)
No but I was more embarrassed and anxious when my name was called even though I knew it was coming. I'm not one for the spotlight so to speak.
Re: weight and pace
I have about 30 pounds I'd like to lose to be closer to "racing weight". I'd be ok dropping 20 though. Thats where I was when I was getting close to breaking 10.
I find I can't lose weight without running (or cardio). When I do weight lifting alone I don't seem to lose. It's fascinating how we all differ here.0 -
RespectTheKitty wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »@seanevan10 I fix old stuff. By that I mean I'm an architectural conservator, working with old buildings, sculptures, decorative plaster and terracotta.
Right now I'm running projects taking down a church bell tower; restoring a fountain commemorating some Czech paratroopers, and advising the Roman Baths how to take care of their....Roman stuff.
It's a pretty varied job - our workshop is an old farm barn I think it was a dairy, so the door high up may have been access to the upper floor whilst the cows were kept inside. The farmhouse attached also has a room high up separate from the rest of the house which was apparently a cheese store.
I think you may get the award for Coolest Job Ever.
I agree!!0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »@MobyCarp I still think you are fast. According to Garmin, my 1 mile PR is 3:39.58. And it was from a training run in Aug. 2017 - which seems to be around my peak time in speed. But I can't keep up speed for as long.
Believe it or not, I've received some various data from my DNA. Some of it indicates I should build more fast twitch muscle fibers, so I should be fast and not so good with distance. Unfortunately, I want to do distance anyway. Stupid DNA...
@midwesterner85 do you want to check that time. It’s faster than the current world record time.
then again maybe holy *kitten* is what I should comment lol 7 -
@ariceroni if i can, go back out the next day.
otherwise, i just reevaluate expectations for the race. bad runs happen to good people0 -
@ariceroni yep, bad runs happen. That is a given. You just have to accept it, but also do a quick evaluation on what lead up to that run (less than normal sleep, hard workout previous day, not eating/drinking enough prior, injury, etc.). If nothing obvious comes to mind, just try to forget it. Your next run will probably be significantly better.0
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@MobyCarp I still think you are fast. According to Garmin, my 1 mile PR is 3:39.58. And it was from a training run in Aug. 2017 - which seems to be around my peak time in speed. But I can't keep up speed for as long.
Believe it or not, I've received some various data from my DNA. Some of it indicates I should build more fast twitch muscle fibers, so I should be fast and not so good with distance. Unfortunately, I want to do distance anyway. Stupid DNA...
@midwesterner85 do you want to check that time. It’s faster than the current world record time. then again maybe holy *kitten* is what I should comment lol
Who knows... maybe there was a GPS error / jump. I suppose I could go back and look at the map that day.
ETA: Yep, looked at the map and the GPS definitely was screwing up that day. Normally it is really good.
So I guess I have no idea what my best time is for a mile. 1 -
@dreamer12151 - I was a 'bit' older than you when I hit those times. The 5 and 10K times were 4 years ago when I was 58 and had been running maybe 2 years. At the time I had no idea of what times I should be or could be running, I just ran. The HM time was from 2 years ago when I had just turned 60.
My problem now, like you, is that I know I ran those times before and am competitive enough with myself to push trying to get there again and being disappointed when I don't. I am moving beyond it though (sort of) by just enjoying myself in the moment whether it be just getting out for a run or running a race.
@RespectTheKitty - Love your workplace and the work you do! So awesome!
@HonuNui - love the blog and the pictures and especially the video!! Seeing the sea turtles is so incredible!!
@midwesterner85 - very interesting on the increase in pace with the increase in weight. That would actually track very closely to what I have gained and how much my pace has increased.
Yep this is me too! I actually had a neighbor stop me when I was returning from a run, shirt soaked, sweat dripping from the brim of my hat and he is asking if I am ok... I wasn't even out of breath and I replied that I was doing great and he said ... 'seriously are you ok, should I call someone?' Ha! I was running, with the dog - not sure what he thought was wrong with me.on sweating:
this had come up in a thread a while ago. it's hereditary. and my parents cursed me.
one parent gets red, one parent gets soppy. i inherited both.
i've had people ask me if they should call emergency services or maybe i should sit and rest. and i feel fine. I feel like a hot mess, but fine
What do you guys do to help bounce back from a bad workout/run? @ariceroni - First I review what went wrong if anything (did I hydrate enough, eat enough, sleep enough), then I get back out the next day for another run making sure all of those are dialed in and maybe going at a different time/route. We all have off days/runs when no matter what we have done to prepare, things just don't click and it doesn't feel as awesome as we think it should.
No running for me again... I did get over to Urgent Care yesterday (my doctor couldn't fit me in) and I have a sinus infection. So antibiotics and running when I feel up to it. I was going to go out for at least a walk/run this morning but I had a puppy emergency with Hobbes the Vizsla. He decided to help himself to 14 of the the mini muffins I had made and unfortunately for him they had raisins in them! I think we caught it in time and got the vast majority out of his system (hopefully) before they could do any damage. I may take him out later when it cools down but no running for him until at least Saturday to make sure he is ok. 6 -
Don't forget, women, we are born with around a 20% disadvantage in running compared to men!!
Don't compare yourselves to men.
2018 Goal: My first 50 km run… DONE!!
and some handstands.
June Runs
03 Jun – 16.0 km fast finish
06 Jun – 06.6 km intervals
09 Jun – ran/walked parkrun with a friend who smashed her PB
10 Jun – My First 50 km run!! (31 miles)
13 Jun – 20 min slow easy jog
15 Jun - 20 min slow easy jog
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June Goals:
200 running miles.
IM 70.3 Training
Goals 6/11/18 - 6/17/18:
Run: 45 miles + Swim and Bike
TSS > 650
June Running:
05.28.18 - 06.03.18: Running Miles 41.5 / Weekly TSS 497 / Fitness: 71 CTL
06.04.18 - 06.10.19: Running Miles 46.2 / Weekly TSS 601 / Fitness: 73 CTL
Base 1 : Week 2 of 4
06.11.18 - 3 m. (Swim 900 yrds).
06.12.18 - 8.9 m.
06.13.18 - 7.2 m. (swim 1000 yards)
06.14.18 - 8.6 m.
This Weekend:
Sat - 1/2 Marathon in Toledo OH
Sun - Olympic Triathlon near Maumee OH
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midwesterner85 wrote: »skippygirlsmom wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »@MobyCarp I still think you are fast. According to Garmin, my 1 mile PR is 3:39.58. And it was from a training run in Aug. 2017 - which seems to be around my peak time in speed. But I can't keep up speed for as long.
Believe it or not, I've received some various data from my DNA. Some of it indicates I should build more fast twitch muscle fibers, so I should be fast and not so good with distance. Unfortunately, I want to do distance anyway. Stupid DNA...
@midwesterner85 do you want to check that time. It’s faster than the current world record time. then again maybe holy *kitten* is what I should comment lol
Who knows... maybe there was a GPS error / jump. I suppose I could go back and look at the map that day.
ETA: Yep, looked at the map and the GPS definitely was screwing up that day. Normally it is really good. So I guess I have no idea what my best time is for a mile.
I’m sorry @midwesterner85
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