June 2018 Running Challenge
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midwesterner85 wrote: »@MegaMooseEsq I disagree. Lifting when in a deficit, assuming proper macronutrient breakout, is a great way to prevent loss of lean tissue and lose fat instead. Lifting is a good thing while in a calorie deficit.
I agree. I also find my diet vs weight to be MUCH more forgiving when lifting. Like calorie levels that would lead to a gain if running only, dont while lifting. And, even if I eat enough for a gain while lifting, the muscle looks better, and everyone thinks I lost weight anyways. These are among thE MANY reasons I am sad I’m not currently in a town with a gym so I can lift
Although, I get ravenous from lifting much more so than rungries, so it’s probably a good thing lifting makes my diet much more forgiving. A good long run (8+ miles) and the boyfriend or running buddy have to force me to eat afterwards... hour of good lifting and I want ALL THE FOODS
I also find that I have to be prepared for slower strength gains when lifting in a deficit, or even when trying to pair significant running with significant lifting.
ETA -if lifting on a deficit, especially if one is prone to low blood pressure, please make sure you are fueled sufficiently prior to lifting - like even a hand full of jelly beans (I’ve even been known to grab some runner gummies if it has been too long since I ate) woozy/passing out while squatting or deadlifting is a bad day...1 -
@bride001 Continued sympathies on your PF struggles. Wishing you patience, my friend.
@kevaasen StravistiX is really great!! Better than Strava's inbuilt (premium) "Fitness and Freshness" (though that can still be useful).
And StravistiX is free! Google Chrome Extension. Link:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stravistix-for-strava/dhiaggccakkgdfcadnklkbljcgicpckn?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon6/15 14miles
Well, I did 14 this morning. Actually got a good nights sleep (ie went to bed fairly early), had pizza yesterday (weirdly I always seem to run better after pizza), and it while it was warm the humidity is a bit lower today than it has been. Oh and the stars must have aligned because this long run was awesome. Aside from the first mile, I felt pretty awesome and I ran negative splits from 10:30 pace all the way down to 8:30 pace for my last miles! My average pace was 9:20. This run is for the record books!
@zdyb23456 Awesome!! Nice to hear.
@ariceroni Bad runs? Oxymoron. Run=good. There are only scales of good runs, no bad runs. No matter what happens, you still ran. If you got an injury or health problem, that becomes its own separate entity, not part of the fact you went for a run. Most people never go for a run!5 -
@kevaasen - I use the Strava app directly to record my runs and have an Apple Watch that pairs with my HRM. The Strava information on my run is also picked up by my watch/iPhone so I just have to see if the HR info can't go the other direction into Strava - seems like there should be a way to do that but I am pretty much a Strava newbie. I will see about researching it this weekend though.
@hanlonsk - I never really thought about it but I always eat before or on the way to the gym (carrots and hummus or tangerines when I have them are my favorites) and have to have a snack afterwards. I started lifting before I had ever run and did have a big drop in weight and building muscle and yes I was eating in a deficit too. I have done both now for a while and now that I want to lose again I have not seen any drop in weight but my muscle definition is great. I wish I could see that 15-20 lbs that I gained when I couldn't run get 'lifted' away!1 -
First day this year where my miles caught up to the same days on my long-term goal.
To do this in one year it would take 8.644 miles per day, every day.
So yeh, this is on track to be an 8 year project but hoping to shorten that as fitness improves 3 -
I completed 2 miles last night and 5.5 this morning. Part of my run was on a trail, and I managed to run face first into a giant spider web. Spiders on the face!!! I’m glad no one was around to see my freak out. Mr. Spider was gently flung into a bush.
Tomorrow’s long run is 14 miles. The longest run I have ever completed was one of my halfs that ended up at 13.46 because of terrible tangents. So, I am a little anxious because I feel like I will *really* be training for my marathon at that point.8 -
Probably no run today as we have about 8 or so houses to see. Really hoping to be able to move before getting locked into another year-long lease in this trailer.2
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June Goals:
200 running miles.
IM 70.3 Training
June Running:
05.28.18 - 06.03.18: Running Miles 41.5 / Weekly TSS 497 / Fitness: 71 CTL
06.04.18 - 06.10.19: Running Miles 46.2 / Weekly TSS 601 / Fitness: 73 CTL
Goals 6/11/18 - 6/17/18:
Run: 45 miles + Swim and Bike
TSS > 650
Base 1 : Week 2 of 4
06.11.18 - 3 m. (Swim 900 yrds).
06.12.18 - 8.9 m.
06.13.18 - 7.2 m. (swim 1000 yrds)
06.14.18 - 8.6 m.
06.15.18 - 2 m. (swim 1000 yrds)
06.16.18 - 13.1 m.
This Weekend:
Sat - 1/2 Marathon in Toledo OH
Sun - Olympic Triathlon near Maumee OH
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midwesterner85 wrote: »@MegaMooseEsq I disagree. Lifting when in a deficit, assuming proper macronutrient breakout, is a great way to prevent loss of lean tissue and lose fat instead. Lifting is a good thing while in a calorie deficit.
I didn't mean to imply at all that it's a bad thing to lift in a calorie deficit! Just that the emphasis struck me as a little backwards - eating more when I'm lifting less, then eating less when I'm lifting more. And like @hanlonsk mentioned, my lifting doesn't progress quite as well in a deficit. It's still awesome, just not ideal.
I tried keeping my lifting at the same level when I started running again this year but found that I just wasn't recovering well enough and that trying to schedule recovery time for three full body workouts with weather-dependent running was too much of a headache. I've switched to twice a week lifting and that's been a lot easier to manage. When the weather changes again I'm planning to start a barbell program, either upgrading my home setup or at a gym or both. I'd originally planned to go on a diet break at that point to help build some muscle, but I didn't count on running impacting my calorie intake quite as much as it did.2 -
Date Amount
6/1/2018 rest
6/2/2018 2.65 miles
6/3/2018 9.05 miles
6/4/2018 rest
6/5/2018 3 miles
6/6/2018 2.1 miles
6/7/2018 2.5 miles
6/8/2018 2 miles
6/9/2018 2.15 miles
6/10/2018 2 miles
6/11/2018 rest
6/12/2018 poor planning
6/13/2018 poor planning
6/14/2018 2.4 miles
6/15/2018 2.75 miles
6/16/2018 2.5 miles (IN THE RAIN!!!!!!!!!!)
Total 33.1 miles /80-85
Wow, it was raining! Ok, probably not what most of you think of as rain, but it's rain for Phoenix. It's more like sprinkle/mist. It was 75 when I set off this morning around 6:30. It actually felt cold. I was so excited. There was plenty of cloud coverage, didn't need my sunglasses (which is good because I forgot them in my excitement to run in the rain). I didn't drink any water on the run. It was a bit humid but not bad. It was a good day for a run! I hope tomorrows 10 miles is just as nice weather wise.8 -
June 2018 Running
06/01: XT
06/02: 3.02 mile easy run, 8:51 pace + XT
06/03: 14.01 mile long run, 9:09 pace
06/04: 3.01 mile easy run, 9:19 pace + XT
06/05: 7.26 miles- 1.6 wu, 4x(1M@10K/90" rest), 1.6 cd
06/06: Off, rest day
06/07: 6.26 miles- 2 wu, 5K race (21:59), 1 cd
06/08: XT + core
06/09: 3.01 mile easy run, 9:20 pace + XT
06/10: 14.05 mile long run with 10x1' pickups + strength
06/11: 10.07 mile trail run, 9:26 pace
06/12: Off, rest day
06/13: 3.10 mile easy run, 9:20 pace + XT
06/14: 8.02 miles- 1.6 wu; 2@10K pace; 2.8 miles fartlek; 1.6 cd
06/15: XT + core
06/16: 3.11 mile easy run, 9:18 pace + XT
Total: 74.92 miles
Thanks for the responses everyone! Very good things to think about as I bounce back. I do think it was just a combo of leg fatigue, under-sleeping the night before, TOM, and heat/humidity that made the run feel harder than expected. I've had three up weeks in a row now (plus a great race); next week is a nice mileage cutback/small taper for the 10K race so I think that will do my legs good! Also definitely appreciate the view of @MobyCarp and @Orphia on what a "bad run" really is, definitely helps put things back into perspective
@kevaasen - Thank you for linking to that plugin! I've been using runalyze for the last ~year, which has some great metrics (and the race time prediction has been pretty spot-on for me), but I definitely like how StravistiX displays fitness/fatigue/form. You are spot-on: my "form" the three days leading up to that workout run was in the "overload" zone. Definitely some fatigue there! I'm back in the "optimal" zone now and am going to make sure I stay there
Upcoming Races
06/07: Strides for Peace 5K PR and 3rd OA - 21:59
06/24: Chicago 10K
07/22: Rock 'n' Roll Chicago 10K
10/07: Chicago Marathon
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10ish km after meeting my friend for C25k w2d3. Then showered and went to bed, so I could pretend I slept in. Hubby woke up and announced we were packing up the bikes and going to the lake. Fun day
Upcoming races:
6/30 Silesian Highland [trail] Half Marathon
7/16 CityTrail OnTour 5k7 -
I am still sick. Sigh. Very congested. No coughing but I'm also quite tired so another rest day I think. Unless I feel a lot better in the evening once the kids are asleep.9
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10 miles per week! I'm new to this community and want some motivation!11
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6/1 – 0
6/2 – 2
6/3 – 2
6/4 – 2
6/5 – 2
6/6 rest day
6/7 – 3
6/8 – 2
6/9 – 2
6/10 –rest
6/11 – 3
6/12 - 3
6/13 - rest day
6/14 - 4 long run ☹️
6/15 - 2 ugh
6/16 - 3.1
30 out of 50 miles
Today was a trail race 5K. It’s the first in a 3 series event, we had the option of 5K or 10K with distances increasing with each event. With just starting to run again after a couple months off I was nervous I could finish the race, plus it was my first trail race.
Skip and I got there early had a short warm up, she started towards the front me way back. We both did the 5K. I got winded about .75 mile in but said no lungs work through it. I started to feel better and better as the race went on. I passed some folks on the trail but unfortunately caught up with 2 groups of 2 who would walk then speed up and run passed me then walk. Ok I HATE that. The one duo was fine when they walked they moved as far over as they could to let me pass, the other duo would stay on the best part of the trail and I had to fight my way around them. Oh well.
I finished in just under 43 minutes, 5th in my age group, 70th overall. Skip was 8th overall, 3rd in age group 28 minutes. Seriously the 15 to 19 age group women was crazy right. 4 of them in the top 8 with one taking 1st place women. It was fun for Skip since she knew the girls from cross country, they run at another school together.
I’m really happy!
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@skippygirlsmom Thanks! I do plan on running in college, but not on their team. I hope to join a running group and some club sports though!3
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Ok, so for the last week I've been trying to do intermittent fasting again. I've been trying it on and off for the last year, but I think this is the last time I will try it. It just seems to make me stay up later and sleep in longer like my body is adjusting to the late breakfast. I've been trying to run while fasted, but I feel so low energy and tired when I do. So the plan is to just go back to my regular schedule of eating a lighter breakfast before running. Hopefully I can finally get some miles in. Argh - setbacks are so frustrating!
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NEW JUNE GOALS, REHAB SMART, 20 hours of activity Work up to 4 minutes of running (50 mpm). Bike all that I can bike.
2---4.05mi, 61min (PT run)
3---2.58mi, 55 min walk
4---3.71mi, 54 min (PT run)
7---3.42 mi, 47 min 5(2-1,2-2)
8---9.35 mi, 43 min road bike
10---55 min brick. 6.04 mi bike, 1.67 mi run 6(2,2)
11---5.55 mi mtn bike, 38 min
12---2.24 mi, 33 min 5(3,3)
13--- 2.71 mi, 36 min 5(2,1) 3(3,3)
13---5.55 mi mtn bike, 36 min
15---6.22 mi, 84 min run 13(3,3)
First PO 6 mile run. Still 15 minutes slower, but happy to be on my favorite 6 mile trail route again. Legs were so happy.
MILES
Running 23.89
Cycling/MTN bike 26.49
Upcoming Races
July 22 Draper Lake Duathlon. Norman OK
October 14th Spirit of Survival Lawton OK. Quarter Marathon
March 31, 2019 A2A Undecided distance. Ardmore OK
April 28, 2019 OKC Memorial Marathon (half)4 -
9 km Misery Mtn Climb. A bit of an early start on Emperor's Challenge HM Training. Nothing like a Trail HM that runs over top a mountain. Will be my 4th HM this year and my 3rd Trail HM. I definitely like doing the Trail HM's. The only negative is that sometimes when you are on the twisty trails you lose sight and audible contact with the other athletes. It's nice to see the odd runner in front of you as a incentive to go catch up to them and pass.
Next week promises to be a challenge as I will be on the road for work so lots of driving and 2 of the communities I end up over nighting in are not Runner Friendly and even more so as a Non-Resident - I would use the term culturally and socially isolated. The last time I stayed there the Hotel Dreadmill looked like a vintage 1960's model.4 -
I am apparently on a short running break while I deal with the consequences of a little medical procedure--which is no fun, but I don't feel like my groove has been thrown, at least not yet. My plan is to get out for a nice long walk this evening when it cools down a little. As soon as I'm able to run again, I'm looking at a week of dreadmills, between 90+ degree days and travel. I still hope to hit my 40 miles by the end of the month, though.
@skippygirlsmom I love trail races! That one looks fun. I don't love trail hogs, though. Boo, hiss!
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Congrats @skippygirlsmom on your 5k trail race, and to Skip on her top 10 finish and AG place! Love the pictures.
Welcome @taylorlegal.
Congrats on your HM finish @KeepRunningFatboy.1 -
12.1 miles this am. Fast finish of 5miles at 8:30 or better. Taper week upcoming then half marathon next Saturday.
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3.9miles. Mostly jogging. 29.9 miles to go.3
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Goal for June:
Continue PT for Plantar fasciitis
50 miles for June – run/walk depending on foot
Incorporate speed work on Tuesdays each week (also dependent upon foot is feeling)
06/01 Rest Day
06/02 - 2.80 - AKA 5K Race
06/06 - 2.01 (Global Running Day)
06/09 - 4.01
06/15 - 2.53
06/16 - 5.31
Total: 16.66/50
At PT appointment yesterday, I told Physical Therapist about flare up and she asked me if I was doing some sort of warm up. My response was no. Her suggestion was I do a 5 minute walk or lunges - something to warm up the foot before just starting to run. When I first began running with the C25K program, I did the 5 minute walk warm up and cool down.
Foot felt good today to go for a run and a 5 miler was on the training plan. I started the run late and the temperature was about 75F with high humidity. Dew point was around 72. I did incorporate the 5 minute warm up and cool down. Foot cooperated for first three miles and I pushed through the 4th. 5th mile was a walk. It was too hot for me to continue outside - so I came home for water and continued the cool down inside with the air conditioner on full blast.
I did figure out how to send my training plans to my Garmin watch - so it tells me warm up, run, cool down segments!
I have a 2.0 miler planned for tomorrow, will see how foot is feeling when I wake up.
@Orphia - Thanks for the well wishes!
@PastorVincent - Good luck on the house hunting!
@taylorlegal - Welcome!
@skippygirlsmom - Congratulations on your 1st trail run and congrats to Skip on her finish.
@Elise4270 - Glad you have happy legs today and glad you got to run on your favorite 6 mile trail.
Upcoming races (Question marks are races not yet registered for):
Louisiana Marathon Quarter Marathon - 01/13/2018 - Done
Mardi Gras Mambo 10K - 02/17/2018 - Done
Q50 Races Sunset Gulf - 6.5 miles 3/24/2018 -DNS
Fat Boy 5K - 04/14/2018 - Cancelled due to Tornado Warning
Active for Autism 5K - 05/05/2018 - Done - Walked
AKA CANN 5K - 06/02/2018 - Done - Run/Walk
BIG EASY BIG HEART 5K 7/21/2018 - ?
August Race - ?
Saints Kick Off Run - 09/08/2018 -?
WHOA Racing Cane Field Classic 2018 (Machete 7 – 1 mile/4 mile/2mile) 10/13/2018- ?
Cajun Cup OR Middendorf's Manchac Run - 11/10/2018 - ?
St Jude Memphis Marathon Weekend 10K - 12/01/ 20183 -
Congrats @skippygirlsmom on your 5k trail race, and to Skip on her top 10 finish and AG place! Love the pictures.
Welcome @taylorlegal.
Congrats on your HM finish @KeepRunningFatboy.
Yep!! All of this! Well done!1 -
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@PastorVincent - Good luck on the house hunting!
Thanks... 6 hours of driving around and we think we have one to put an offer on. Some details need to be figured out, but hopefully, this one sticks! We already had a house lined up, but the home inspector found some serious issues (always hire an inspector!) so we had to dump it. Hopefully, this one sticks!
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I wanna take a second cuz my earlier post was reported as abuse... I am confused as to why it was reported and it was not my intent to upset anyone - especially as I was speaking about myself in the post. I'd just like to clarify that.3
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Forgot to log my birthday run - 5k on 50th birthday - it's too hot here even at 2 am. I mean it's just awful, we are under a heat and air quality advisory, there are scrolling signs saying not to drive if you can help it. Ran a 38 minute 5k which felt like 10 minute miles. Took a break yesterday and today is a legs day, so running tomorrow. No clue how that will work out. Maybe the dreadmill.
For the record, last year on my birthday I had never run since high school. Being a runner has made my life so much better, even when it's too hot to breathe.11 -
I wanna take a second cuz my earlier post was reported as abuse... I am confused as to why it was reported and it was not my intent to upset anyone - especially as I was speaking about myself in the post. I'd just like to clarify that.
I saw that. You did nothing wrong. The mods do look at it and you shouldn't worry about it. I wonder if it was done inadvertently scrolling on mobile.3 -
@juliet3455 I totally understand your predicament. As previously mentioned I don’t have a gym in this entire town I am traveling to, let alone the hotel... what I wouldn’t give for a standard treadmill + elliptical/bike and dumbbell set in a hotel right now.... and town is not runner friendly either ... heck... I have tried several times, and have established I run out of sidewalk @4 miles round trip... grrrr
That being said - 7.2 today... run 2min walk 2min intervals... my legs handled the world much better than expected, but since I ran out of sidewalk anyways, I chose to take “canyon road” thinking it would be less traveled and less likely to get me ran over, given my afore mentioned run out of sidewalks issue... yeah... was much more elevation gain than I have chosen to deal with to date. My lungs thought I was nuts, even with my intervals. I ended up flopping some intervals to walk more ups and running more downs. So, clearly I still have some cardiovascular work to do. But this is the longest distance I’ve covered in a “run” since my half marathon just over a year ago. So, even slower and shorter intervals, I was still happy with today’s work. It was much cooler than the week has been, and kinda foggy, it was really lovely. I should have taken more pretty pictures on the canyon road. The below picture of my fowl friend was from a few days ago that I forgot to share, but saw it twice more today, and then one of two deer I scared up today.
23.1 for the month.
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