How do you guys flirt?
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Hello
I have no advice concerning your question yet (my husband knew me for TWO years before he asked me out haha) but I am really interested in it for two reasons..
(a) I teach A Level English and part of that is studying body language (movement, how you stand, facial expressions, hand gestures etc) - over 80% of our communication is through body language so our words only convey around 20%
(b) More personally, your question totally reminded me of students I've taught with Asperger's Syndrome. By far the most difficult aspect of any communication for them (including flirting) is body language (eye contact in particular) and 'reading between the lines' or understanding what a person means when they say something. Most aspects of flirting would be included in the very things AS people find difficult - humour, innuendo, body language! Just the way you worded your question and said you have 'learned' how to be social made me think AS. Hope I've not made you feel uncomfortable if this isn't what you have, I'm just trying to be helpful. Asperger's and similar conditions fascinate me as my son also has it.
Some of the practical answers people have given are really good - but when you have to 'learn' these things instead of it coming naturally it can be quite exhausting! Good Luck x
Thanks for commenting! I have not been diagnosed on the autistic spectrum, but I have not discussed it with a doctor specifically because it's the least of my problems and I only get half-hour sessions.
There is a bit of a complicating factor - I had depression from a pretty early age and didn't engage in friendships between ages 9-17. I missed out the time people usually make their social skills perfect. I can't be sure whether my social ineptitude is due to some intrinsic difference in my personality (e.g. AS) or whether it was due to the depression making me a social recluse.
I had no idea that body language made up 80% of communication! I really need to pay more attention to that then. I never change my body language - I don't think - I am usually huddled/closed up. Which isn't great. I have a lot more to learn.0 -
Seriously, nothing is more of a turn-off for a guy (at least this one) than being fake. Be yourself. I know that seems like a canned answer but nothing could be truer.
But myself is not naturally very friendly. I'm usually nervous of new people. I'm sometimes quite nervous about friends. At first glance I'm quite distant and reclusive. I sound like I don't want to talk to you. I don't try to be like this - I honestly want to talk to you - but I'm scared of misinterpreting you or saying the wrong thing or mishearing you or not understanding what you mean.0 -
"I promise I'm a nice person when you get to know me though"
This is how I know you can do it! Maybe it will take a little practice to get rid of the nervousness, but when you do you will have one of the most important things already And hey, nervousness can even be used to your advantage too, now that I think about it - my boyfriend and I are pretty much the two most awkward and shy people in the world but somehow on our first date together we found each other's nervousness absolutely endearing. Like other people are saying, it's easy when you do find the right person, too.
Just please, do remember to be you!
ETA: I wanted to add, unless there's a specific object of affection you have in mind, it becomes a bit easier to flirt if you don't look at a flirting partner as a potential love interest - just as someone to have a bit of fun with; that way, no harm done if they don't reciprocate, so there is less pressure.
I have no specific love interest at the moment. They scare me! I only started getting love interests when I hit my 20s. I'm 21 now, so I'm relatively new to that sort of thing... I had a relationship at the age of 19, but it didn't go very well... I wasn't interested in them...
I find your story about you and your boyfriend endearing. How did you arrange a date? How did you make it clear that it was a date rather than a normal meeting?0 -
So I know the effects of flirting and what it means. I know people who are good at flirting. In fact I know everything about flirting, except...
How exactly do you flirt?
People recommend flirting to feel good about yourself and celebrate a more attractive body as we lose (or gain!) weight. But I wouldn't know what to say, what to do. I don't know what's considered flirty.
Nobody has ever flirted with me, so I can't judge from that!
Firstly, personally, I wouldn't risk flirting 'to feel good about myself' if it wasn't something that came naturally to me. Flirting performs a specific function, finding a mate, and if that's not your intention and the other party thinks it is, you may find yourself in an awkward situation. Flirt if you want to get to know someone in THAT way. One of my friends has ended up cheating on her husband after what started as just flirting.
Having been in a long term relationship for years at college, when I was single again I was surprised to find that what had been just conversations when I was attached, were suddenly flirting. If the 'chemistry' is there, just talking happily is flirting.
I knew all the 'tricks' when I was single, but I never consciously used them, I just watched them 'happen' at all the right times.0 -
I can't believe a looker like you doesn't know how to flirt?
See its easy..................................
If that was directed at me..thank you0 -
Seriously, nothing is more of a turn-off for a guy (at least this one) than being fake. Be yourself. I know that seems like a canned answer but nothing could be truer.
But myself is not naturally very friendly. I'm usually nervous of new people. I'm sometimes quite nervous about friends. At first glance I'm quite distant and reclusive. I sound like I don't want to talk to you. I don't try to be like this - I honestly want to talk to you - but I'm scared of misinterpreting you or saying the wrong thing or mishearing you or not understanding what you mean.
Same with me,I deal with the public every day so have a tendency to talk "at" someone rather then "to" them.
Add that to a person that is extremely awkward around ladies trying to not do something wrong makes it tough.
The be yourself and let the chips fall where they will really is the thing,am slowly learning that and also not being devastated if the lady is not interested.
I still say it is tougher on a guy to be rejected then it is for a lady.0 -
You know, I'm really glad some people have an idea of how to explain it, because while I'm often accused of being an incorrigible flirt, I have no clue how to tell someone what to do to flirt.0
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Firstly, personally, I wouldn't risk flirting 'to feel good about myself' if it wasn't something that came naturally to me. Flirting performs a specific function, finding a mate, and if that's not your intention and the other party thinks it is, you may find yourself in an awkward situation. Flirt if you want to get to know someone in THAT way. One of my friends has ended up cheating on her husband after what started as just flirting.
Having been in a long term relationship for years at college, when I was single again I was surprised to find that what had been just conversations when I was attached, were suddenly flirting. If the 'chemistry' is there, just talking happily is flirting.
I knew all the 'tricks' when I was single, but I never consciously used them, I just watched them 'happen' at all the right times.
Thanks for the advice. I guess it doesn't come naturally to me I should probably avoid it. But even so I'd love to be able to recognise when someone else is flirting (if it's possible to flirt with someone who doesn't realise you're trying to flirt with them). I was absolutely certain nobody had ever flirted with me when I started this thread, but now I realise I had no idea what it was and wouldn't pick up on it even if I did know.
I don't get the 'chemistry' very often, especially for people I have known for under a month. I've had two specific interests so far and they made me feel awful! (the interests rather than the people themselves). I was also obese and unhappy about it at the time so I just wanted to curl up and hope everything would go away!0 -
Same with me,I deal with the public every day so have a tendency to talk "at" someone rather then "to" them.
Add that to a person that is extremely awkward around ladies trying to not do something wrong makes it tough.
The be yourself and let the chips fall where they will really is the thing,am slowly learning that and also not being devastated if the lady is not interested.
I still say it is tougher on a guy to be rejected then it is for a lady.
Thanks for posting I'm getting the impression I should probably stay away from flirting, but I'd love to be able to recognise it from other people.
I wouldn't be able to say whether it was tougher for a guy or a lady. I'll never experience the other person's viewpoint so I don't think I'd be able to judge! It's probably more common for a guy to be rejected than a lady, but I wouldn't be able to say whether that makes it more or less horrible...0 -
Flirting performs a specific function, finding a mate, and if that's not your intention and the other party thinks it is, you may find yourself in an awkward situation. Flirt if you want to get to know someone in THAT way. One of my friends has ended up cheating on her husband after what started as just flirting.
I'm afraid I disagree. 'Finding a mate' as you put it, is only one of the reasons to flirt. It can also just be plain fun, making you feel good as well as the other person, it's just a matter of keeping things light, and not crossing lines. Flirting does not a cheater make.0 -
Thanks for posting I'm getting the impression I should probably stay away from flirting, but I'd love to be able to recognise it from other people.
Maybe just start with people you feel comfortable with rather than just random flirting with strangers. I know it's not easy to engage in social situations or activities you aren't comfortable with but Don't let fear of rejection hold you back. You would be surprised at how flattered men are when cute women pay them a bit of attention.0 -
I've no idea, I get told that I flirt all the time but I never conciously make an effort to do it.
I must give off the wrong signals tho 'cos women I'm not interest in end up being stalkers and women I like end up being friends...0 -
Maybe just start with people you feel comfortable with rather than just random flirting with strangers. I know it's not easy to engage in social situations or activities you aren't comfortable with but Don't let fear of rejection hold you back. You would be surprised at how flattered men are when cute women pay them a bit of attention.
I'll see how I feel... now I know what it is, I have a better idea of what situations it might be appropriate in...
I'm not too scared of being rejected as I certainly wouldn't flirt with anyone who I was actually really interested in (I avoid those people) but I'm really scared of getting 'flirting' wrong and looking ridiculous, or completely unnatural.
Human courtship is scary!0 -
Same with me,I deal with the public every day so have a tendency to talk "at" someone rather then "to" them.
Add that to a person that is extremely awkward around ladies trying to not do something wrong makes it tough.
The be yourself and let the chips fall where they will really is the thing,am slowly learning that and also not being devastated if the lady is not interested.
I still say it is tougher on a guy to be rejected then it is for a lady.
Thanks for posting I'm getting the impression I should probably stay away from flirting, but I'd love to be able to recognise it from other people.
I wouldn't be able to say whether it was tougher for a guy or a lady. I'll never experience the other person's viewpoint so I don't think I'd be able to judge! It's probably more common for a guy to be rejected than a lady, but I wouldn't be able to say whether that makes it more or less horrible...
Why on earth would you think you should stay away from flirting,you are a pretty lady.
Even if it doesn`t "work" every time that fact remains the same..
And no,I didn`t say that as a line or a flirt,was being honest.0 -
Why on earth would you think you should stay away from flirting,you are a pretty lady.
Even if it doesn`t "work" every time that fact remains the same..
And no,I didn`t say that as a line or a flirt,was being honest.
That's really kind of you to say. I tell myself that one day I'll believe you, too - I've lost nearly all the weight which was making me feel self-conscious, but I still feel self-conscious about my appearance. I can't get out of 'fat mentality'! One day I hope to wake up and realise that I'm taking proper care of myself now and that should in theory make me appear more attractive. I'm closer than I was yesterday.0 -
I'm not too scared of being rejected as I certainly wouldn't flirt with anyone who I was actually really interested in (I avoid those people) but I'm really scared of getting 'flirting' wrong and looking ridiculous, or completely unnatural.
Human courtship is scary!
It is.
Don't be avoiding people you are interested in though, even if you don't flirt by spending time in their company they will get to know you and you will start to be able to feel yourself around them.
have you though of trying out speed dating? I known the idea might initially seem horrific but you get to practice chatting to lots of different people, you only have to spend a short time with them so if its really uncomfortable you don't have long before you can escape and you are under no pressure to ever see any of them again0 -
Just please, do remember to be you!
ETA: I wanted to add, unless there's a specific object of affection you have in mind, it becomes a bit easier to flirt if you don't look at a flirting partner as a potential love interest - just as someone to have a bit of fun with; that way, no harm done if they don't reciprocate, so there is less pressure.
I have to agree with this statement. I have a close friend that is still hyperventilating about talking to guys, going on a date or even thinking of kissing a guy. My advice to her is, don't think about how you are going to handle a date or even how the kiss will turn out. That's thinking too far ahead. Just take it one step at a time. Be flattered if there's a comment or two your way, but don't over think it. You'll drive yourself crazy! Granted, I never had anyone flirt with me, so I'd probably laugh and dig a little deeper to see where he came up with that line and what other lines he's tried (Keeping a friendly smile on my face to keep it light and easy). It's a good way to get some funny conversation going. If anything else, at least you both have had a good laugh!
And as far as dating, I haven't had many boyfriends, but the one I am currently with had met me at my sister's wedding. The bust of my bridesmaid dress was a bit too big and he caught me fishing my camera and my keys out of my dress! I didn't realize he was there...I was rushing to a friend to give her my camera, he happened to be standing there. Embarrassing for me? Could've been, but my thought process was that I wasn't going to see this guy after today, so it didn't mater what he thought of me. We ended up in the same circles that night and were just giving each other humorous crap the whole time. Next thing I know, he was asking a mutual friend about me. Totally random and wasn't even aware we were flirting. Next time we met up was with a group of friends. He kept saying he liked my shoes...later found out that was him trying to say he liked me!
I never understood people when they said "it'll happen when you least expect it." But hey, when you let your insecurities go around someone and don't realize it, things may just click.0 -
It is.
Don't be avoiding people you are interested in though, even if you don't flirt by spending time in their company they will get to know you and you will start to be able to feel yourself around them.
I usually like people I'm already friends with so they know me already. It's usually just awkward (this is only from a sample of two people, so this might not be true forever) and I feel really, really uncomfortable around them, and I have an overwhelming urge to stay but an overwhelming urge to leave and I don't know what to do really. I've only had a couple of those interests since hitting my 20s so I'm hoping it settles down on the third one. I know 13-year-olds really don't know what to do for the first couple of times they get an interest in someone, so I'm hoping that's just what's happening to me!?
I really do hate the feeling though. I'm really scared it's going to happen again, soon, because I'm going back to university in October and I'm going to inevitably meet lots of new people there. The chances of it happening increase with the number of new people you meet, so I'm really nervous it's going to happen again. It really threw me off balance the first two times and I can't risk that happening again. I can't really explain to anyone why I start getting things wrong, or missing essay deadlines etc. because it's such a poor excuse. "I have a love interest and don't know what to do because I haven't had much experience" is a pathetic thing to say! Especially for a 21 year old!0 -
I have to agree with this statement. I have a close friend that is still hyperventilating about talking to guys, going on a date or even thinking of kissing a guy. My advice to her is, don't think about how you are going to handle a date or even how the kiss will turn out. That's thinking too far ahead. Just take it one step at a time. Be flattered if there's a comment or two your way, but don't over think it. You'll drive yourself crazy! Granted, I never had anyone flirt with me, so I'd probably laugh and dig a little deeper to see where he came up with that line and what other lines he's tried (Keeping a friendly smile on my face to keep it light and easy). It's a good way to get some funny conversation going. If anything else, at least you both have had a good laugh!
OK! I hyperventilate in those circumstances. Well, I don't mind talking to my friends, but the thought of combining THAT with THOSE sorts of feelings makes me incredibly nervous, and I'm prone to panic attacks as I have an anxiety disorder... I haven't had one for a while but that's probably because I haven't been in many social situations recently.And as far as dating, I haven't had many boyfriends, but the one I am currently with had met me at my sister's wedding. The bust of my bridesmaid dress was a bit too big and he caught me fishing my camera and my keys out of my dress! I didn't realize he was there...I was rushing to a friend to give her my camera, he happened to be standing there. Embarrassing for me? Could've been, but my thought process was that I wasn't going to see this guy after today, so it didn't mater what he thought of me. We ended up in the same circles that night and were just giving each other humorous crap the whole time. Next thing I know, he was asking a mutual friend about me. Totally random and wasn't even aware we were flirting. Next time we met up was with a group of friends. He kept saying he liked my shoes...later found out that was him trying to say he liked me!
That's a really nice story. I am with you on storing things in large dress cavities. I am an A/B cup border and dresses have loads of room! I fill it with phones, keys and emergency moneys. I've so far managed to narrowly avoid any embarrassing fishing-around (though it's come close).I never understood people when they said "it'll happen when you least expect it." But hey, when you let your insecurities go around someone and don't realize it, things may just click.
I don't get that quote either. Partly because I do NOT want to be taken by surprise! I want to know when it's coming or I might panic. Maybe things will click one day, but nothing's going to happen until I change myself: I need to be happier in myself first or I won't appear as an attractive person to other people. I've never been happy with myself because I've been really conscious of my weight. I'm a healthy BMI now so I've removed that obstacle, but I've still got a long way to go.0 -
I'm a horrible flirt. I don't even bother anymore.0
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i usually just stare and breathe heavily... i heard girls love that!
I LOVE it when a guy stares and breathes heavily.0 -
i usually just stare and breathe heavily... i heard girls love that!0
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I feel really, really uncomfortable around them, and I have an overwhelming urge to stay but an overwhelming urge to leave and I don't know what to do really.
I really hope it gets easier for you. my only advice would be to try and force yourself to stay but rather than see them as a potential boyfriend and get nervous about doing or saying the wrong thing just enjoy spending time with them as a friend and think it would be really nice if something happened but if it doesn't i'm going to have fun with someone i like. Good luck at uni next term0 -
Can't help but flirt 24/7 in school. Ladies usually flirt with me, but when it's with a girl I'm attracted to , I'm really nervous unless she speaks to me first. I'm semi-nerdy, which is why lots of girls find me "cute" apparently LOL.0
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Hey DONT ask me. I dont even do ANYTHING and guys say im flirting...i dont even know what the heck flirting is but apparently im a nice innocent girl who flirts..who knew!0
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i dont flirt, because i know how badly every woman alive wants me0
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Hey baby what's ur sign?
If you were a booger, I'de pick you everytime.
Fred is the *best* flirt ever!! hahaha
I get accused of being a flirt all the time. There may or may not be truth to this... hehe I honestly love hearing and learning about peoples lives and experiences. So for me, I ask questions, get involved, lean in close and listen. Body language is major. Sly little touches. Not crossing your arms and closing off. Eye contact. Most of it is making the person you are flirting with feel good and special. And in turn, they will do the same to you. And CONFIDENCE!! Work on that!! Stay up on current events, sports, learn some corny jokes... those things all keep the conversation going.
Like someone else said.... when you find the right person... it will just click. They will get you0 -
i usually just stare and breathe heavily... i heard girls love that!
Baaaahahahahahaha!!!! That is awesome! You are a true ladies man!0 -
It's usually just awkward (this is only from a sample of two people, so this might not be true forever) and I feel really, really uncomfortable around them, and I have an overwhelming urge to stay but an overwhelming urge to leave and I don't know what to do really.
I just want to point out that this is a 100% completely normal reaction. That's how just about everybody reacts when they have a crush on someone. They want to be near that person all the time, but then they don't want to say something stupid that makes the person go away, so they want to avoid that person at the same time. It's something everybody goes through.0 -
Why on earth would you think you should stay away from flirting,you are a pretty lady.
Even if it doesn`t "work" every time that fact remains the same..
And no,I didn`t say that as a line or a flirt,was being honest.
That's really kind of you to say. I tell myself that one day I'll believe you, too - I've lost nearly all the weight which was making me feel self-conscious, but I still feel self-conscious about my appearance. I can't get out of 'fat mentality'! One day I hope to wake up and realise that I'm taking proper care of myself now and that should in theory make me appear more attractive. I'm closer than I was yesterday.
Listen to what folks here have said,everyone sees you as attractive.0
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