Whats the BEST Tea for Weight Loss?
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singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »The average diet has a lot of sugar in it already. With so many varieties of tea, surely there's one you can find that you don't need to add sugar to.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm simply stating what my nutritionalist has told me numerous times.
You claimed sugar is detrimental to weight loss - a sweeping claim that is factually incorrect - no individual food or substance prevents weight loss just as no individual food or substance causes weight loss (ie ACV).
Do some people consume too much sugar? Sure.
Is sugar inherently bad?
No.
I don’t know what a nutritionalist is but many people who work in the diet industry have little in the way of robust academic training - a registered dietician usually being the most rigorously trained certification.
The point is that if a person wants to sweeten their tea, has the calories to fit it in, and is eating an overall balanced and nutritious diet - then there is nothing wrong with adding sugar to the tea.
Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
No need to be rude. I did mean nutritionist. I don't see you hounding every other person saying avoid sugar / sweetener, so you can kindly stop harassing me over it.
Why a nutritionist and not a registered dietitian? There's a huge difference between the two.
https://www.dietitians.ca/Your-Health/Find-A-Dietitian/Difference-Between-Dietitian-and-Nutritionist.aspx
Not always.
Only if you live in Alberta, Quebec or Nova Scotia. If you live in the States or elsewhere in Canada anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. Are you in one of those provinces? Usually mddical professionals list their qualifications after their name so you can see if they have a degree or not and what professional organisation they belong to.
At the time, I was living on Montreal Quebec. The terms are interchangeable there.
Ok makes sense
I'm in Nova Scotia myself 0 -
Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
I fail to see what logging has to do with food being good or bad unless you are suggesting that sugar is making people forget to log it.
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Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
I fail to see what logging has to do with food being good or bad unless you are suggesting that sugar is making people forget to log it.
You really have to spell things out around here, don't you?
Many studies indicate the sugar can hinder weight loss.
Sugar is empty calories, and I am under firm belief the original poster can find a tea they won't need to add sugar to. In comparison to one they need to add sugar to, it's going to be the healthier option - which is what this entire thread is about.
This is even on the site you're already on - I notice on here a lot of people ask for proof, then dismiss it as false. I suspect you're less likely do to this on this site.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/science-says-sugar-bad-weight-loss/31 -
This is even on the site you're already on - I notice on here a lot of people ask for proof, then dismiss it as false. I suspect you're less likely do to this on this site.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/science-says-sugar-bad-weight-loss/
LOL. The MyFitnessPal blog is one of the worst, most unreliable resources ever. It's no better than Dr. Oz or the articles on the cover of a woman's magazine.
Sugar only makes you gain weight if it causes you to consume more calories than you expend. You gain weight via a caloric surplus, period. There's no food which otherwise magically causes weight gain.28 -
Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
I fail to see what logging has to do with food being good or bad unless you are suggesting that sugar is making people forget to log it.
You really have to spell things out around here, don't you?
Many studies indicate the sugar can hinder weight loss.
Sugar is empty calories, and I am under firm belief the original poster can find a tea they won't need to add sugar to. In comparison to one they need to add sugar to, it's going to be the healthier option - which is what this entire thread is about.
This is even on the site you're already on - I notice on here a lot of people ask for proof, then dismiss it as false. I suspect you're less likely do to this on this site.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/science-says-sugar-bad-weight-loss/
Are there studies which indicate that in a calorie deficit that sugar can hinder weight loss? Because that’s the point many of us are trying to make. Some people consume too many calories from sugar. Some people consume too many calories from fats. What hinders weight loss is too many calories, period, regardless of the source of them. So fixating on sugar and trying to steer people away from it is about as logical as telling people not to eat too many Doritos, roast chicken, avocado, or ribeye steak. Any food is detrimental to weight loss if consumed in excess and any food can be part of a balanced, calorie appropriate diet of context and dosage are considered.
Blanket statements whether they originate from you, a nutritionist or a registered dietician are rarely helpful in threads such as these. The OP doesn’t need to drink unsweetened tea if they prefer their tea sweetened. If they prefer to use their calories elsewhere that’s fine too - I rarely drink sugary drinks but it isn’t because I think sugar in and of itself is bad it’s because I’ve determined where I want to use my calories.21 -
Tea itself does not come sweetened. People are the culprits that sweeten it. Me I like it hot, and cold and almost every type of tea. Like it loose or in teabags. I hardly ever buy it in bottles as most have had sugar in some form added. And I hate sweet tea in any form.
I would think in a calorie deficit that sugar would not hinder weight loss. But I will say it does not mean the sugar added to make the tea taste sweet is good for everyone. Many people would have no issue with it, agree. But there is a class of people that sugar will effect them regardless of the fact that they are overall in a calorie deficit. I have noticed that on some of the posts I read. Totally agree if you are at an overall calorie deficit that yes that will over time lead to weight loss. However if one has been told by their Dr's. not to eat certain types of food, yes even while working on weight loss. It can still long term have a negative impact, because it can worsen or bring about a huge health issue. For one every day I need to watch out not only carbs, fat, protein but total sugars as well
So for many people they should not be adding sugar or other sweetners to their drink of choice due to other health conditions. Which is different than anything to do with the Calorie deficit. I would think a fair amount of people on here, have some serious or potential serious health conditions and hopefully they are being mindful of them.15 -
WinoGelato wrote: »The average diet has a lot of sugar in it already. With so many varieties of tea, surely there's one you can find that you don't need to add sugar to.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm simply stating what my nutritionalist has told me numerous times.
You claimed sugar is detrimental to weight loss - a sweeping claim that is factually incorrect - no individual food or substance prevents weight loss just as no individual food or substance causes weight loss (ie ACV).
Do some people consume too much sugar? Sure.
Is sugar inherently bad?
No.
I don’t know what a nutritionalist is but many people who work in the diet industry have little in the way of robust academic training - a registered dietician usually being the most rigorously trained certification.
The point is that if a person wants to sweeten their tea, has the calories to fit it in, and is eating an overall balanced and nutritious diet - then there is nothing wrong with adding sugar to the tea.
Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
Not sure what you think is a sore point for many people??
Inaccurate blanket statements are, I agree.
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I see a lot of people spreading misinformation here, surprise surprise. "Tea doesn't help with weight loss" is bs. Tea is great, it will help suppress your appetite and boost your metabolism.44
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Did OP ever come back to say what kind she picked?
Or did this discussion turn out to be..... not her cup of tea....?
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paperpudding wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »The average diet has a lot of sugar in it already. With so many varieties of tea, surely there's one you can find that you don't need to add sugar to.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm simply stating what my nutritionalist has told me numerous times.
You claimed sugar is detrimental to weight loss - a sweeping claim that is factually incorrect - no individual food or substance prevents weight loss just as no individual food or substance causes weight loss (ie ACV).
Do some people consume too much sugar? Sure.
Is sugar inherently bad?
No.
I don’t know what a nutritionalist is but many people who work in the diet industry have little in the way of robust academic training - a registered dietician usually being the most rigorously trained certification.
The point is that if a person wants to sweeten their tea, has the calories to fit it in, and is eating an overall balanced and nutritious diet - then there is nothing wrong with adding sugar to the tea.
Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
Not sure what you think is a sore point for many people??
Inaccurate blanket statements are, I agree.
Try not reading into it. I simply suggested to avoid sugar if possible because they are empty calories. Even though I hadn't done it before, a professional in the field told me this as well, cementing my view on it.
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I see a lot of people spreading misinformation here, surprise surprise. "Tea doesn't help with weight loss" is bs. Tea is great, it will help suppress your appetite and boost your metabolism.
No tea (or food) will boost metabolism significantly enough to make any difference to weight loss, yes the caffeine might help suppress appetite initially but not long term.12 -
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You really have to spell things out around here, don't you?
Many studies indicate the sugar can hinder weight loss.
Sugar is empty calories, and I am under firm belief the original poster can find a tea they won't need to add sugar to. In comparison to one they need to add sugar to, it's going to be the healthier option - which is what this entire thread is about.
This is even on the site you're already on - I notice on here a lot of people ask for proof, then dismiss it as false. I suspect you're less likely do to this on this site.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/science-says-sugar-bad-weight-loss/
Funny. I was just thinking the same thing. So let me spell it out for you:
It is the SUM total of calories of EVERYTHING you eat and drink over a period of time that determines whether you lose, maintain, or gain weight. This is true if you eat nothing but sugar and it is true if you eat no added sugar at all.
As I mentioned before sugar can be easily manipulated into being a bad guy in a study if taken out of context.
Edited to change "in a day" to "over a period of time" because that is more accurate.19 -
I see a lot of people spreading misinformation here, surprise surprise. "Tea doesn't help with weight loss" is bs. Tea is great, it will help suppress your appetite and boost your metabolism.
Sup, Mr. Marx?
Any substance that will increase your metabolism in a meaningful way, outside the standard margin or error that comes with calorie control, will also make you insanely ill and/or kill you.14 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »The average diet has a lot of sugar in it already. With so many varieties of tea, surely there's one you can find that you don't need to add sugar to.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm simply stating what my nutritionalist has told me numerous times.
You claimed sugar is detrimental to weight loss - a sweeping claim that is factually incorrect - no individual food or substance prevents weight loss just as no individual food or substance causes weight loss (ie ACV).
Do some people consume too much sugar? Sure.
Is sugar inherently bad?
No.
I don’t know what a nutritionalist is but many people who work in the diet industry have little in the way of robust academic training - a registered dietician usually being the most rigorously trained certification.
The point is that if a person wants to sweeten their tea, has the calories to fit it in, and is eating an overall balanced and nutritious diet - then there is nothing wrong with adding sugar to the tea.
Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
No need to be rude. I did mean nutritionist. I don't see you hounding every other person saying avoid sugar / sweetener, so you can kindly stop harassing me over it.
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Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
I fail to see what logging has to do with food being good or bad unless you are suggesting that sugar is making people forget to log it.
You really have to spell things out around here, don't you?
Many studies indicate the sugar can hinder weight loss.
Sugar is empty calories, and I am under firm belief the original poster can find a tea they won't need to add sugar to. In comparison to one they need to add sugar to, it's going to be the healthier option - which is what this entire thread is about.
This is even on the site you're already on - I notice on here a lot of people ask for proof, then dismiss it as false. I suspect you're less likely do to this on this site.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/science-says-sugar-bad-weight-loss/
Bolded #1: No, they don't.
Bolded #2: No, it's not. Sugar is a carb. Carbs provide quick energy, which is very helpful when performing intense workouts. I keep Sour Patch Kids in my gym bag. Losing weight just fine. Why? Because I stick to a caloric deficit.17 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Again - going off a statement from a nutritionalist. Also, many people do not log the sugar that they consume.
I'll stop commenting on this since this is obviously a sore point for so many people.
I fail to see what logging has to do with food being good or bad unless you are suggesting that sugar is making people forget to log it.
You really have to spell things out around here, don't you?
Many studies indicate the sugar can hinder weight loss.
Sugar is empty calories, and I am under firm belief the original poster can find a tea they won't need to add sugar to. In comparison to one they need to add sugar to, it's going to be the healthier option - which is what this entire thread is about.
This is even on the site you're already on - I notice on here a lot of people ask for proof, then dismiss it as false. I suspect you're less likely do to this on this site.
https://blog.myfitnesspal.com/science-says-sugar-bad-weight-loss/
Bolded #1: No, they don't.
Bolded #2: No, it's not. Sugar is a carb. Carbs provide quick energy, which is very helpful when performing intense workouts. I keep Sour Patch Kids in my gym bag. Losing weight just fine. Why? Because I stick to a caloric deficit.
So you didn't read the article. It's like arguing with a brick.
No wonder I was told these forums are unfriendly. You make one comment that someone disagrees with, despite posting evidence, and they just continue to stick their fingers in their ears.
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Eat less calories than you burn for weight loss.
Drink any kind of tea you like. Sweetened or unsweetened, your choice. Include any added sweetener you may add as part of your calorie consumption.
Stay at a calorie deficit, and you will lose weight.
It is a simple formula, less calories in than you are burning.7 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Technically you could look for a fairly caffeinated one to help your metabolism slightly, but overall, like has been said many times before - none will actively help you.
If you're short any nutrients, you can try to find one that will supplement that. Just don't add sugar / sugar replacement in it.
Why not?
Sugar can be detrimental to weight loss; and a lot of sugar replacements can be just as bad.
Sugar has 16 calories per teaspoon, so roughly 50 extra calories if you like your tea extra sweet. That's like half an apple's worth. I don't really see how that would be detrimental to weight loss if the calories are accounted for.
They are empty calories. At least the apple is giving you other vitamins & nutrients you need. There are also several studies on sugar making you more hungry.
Then again, there's a lot of weight loss "science" out there that contradicts each other, so to each their own.
They're not really empty. They have carbs. Carbs = fuel. By that reasoning, oil is empty calories too, and is higher in calories to boot. Even then, that has no bearing on weight loss.
What type of oil are you referring too?8
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