Thought on diet sodas
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The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing
This goes beyond weight.
Well I have done my research so to speak and I strongly disagree with your stated claims. I am willing to back up and argue my position but given within your first post you state with pride that you are unwilling to do so yourself I suppose there is little point in doing that.
To be blunt being a personal trainer and nutritionist really has nothing to do with weather or not you understand what you are saying on this matter so that attempt to argue from authority doesn't even really make sense. Even if your background was relevant simply leaning on that while announcing proudly you have no interest in backing up your own claims is poor form.
Congratulations on clearly being extremely fit but yeah that doesn't give you special insight here.18 -
The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
Further evidence anyone can call themselves a nutritionist.
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I think they taste great with certain foods like homemade pizza, tacos, or pasta with red sauce...totally hit the spot, especially Diet Pepsi or Pibb Zero. Me and my husband buy a 12 pack about once a month, and drink a couple of cans each week. That's exactly the right amount for me, I think. I used to drink zero water and 1 diet soda with both lunch and dinner every day. I feel a lot better drinking tons of water and just having the occasional diet soda.
I don't think it's somehow evil or causes severe problems in the average adult - but like anything else, excessive consumption is probably not a great idea.
I also really like flavored Perrier or LaCroix and plain San Pellegrino, but I don't feel like those are remotely similar to diet soda aside from the fact they're both carbonated. If I'm craving a Diet Pepsi, Perrier isn't going to touch that craving...same with the reverse. Just not the same (for me).0 -
I like the new variety of Coke Zero drinks. I don't personally use them much, but I am willing to buy them for my family. They are willing to consume them.0
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This thread made me feel better about drinking about... two cans? Sometimes one, sometimes three cans of diet soda. Coke zero in any flavor is my greatest weakness.1
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The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
If a rat were fed nothing other than aspartame for just enough time to not die of starvation, and then were killed so its microbiome could be examined, the mad scientist would, in fact, discover that the gut microbiome had starved to death because the rat didn't consume any food for the gut microbiome to eat.
This unethical experiment has not been run on humans and you have zero evidence that any human gut microbiome has been even a little bit altered by consumption of aspartame.
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how the hades do you gain weight from what is virtually nothing though. that doesn't make sense4
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I have been a diabetic for many years. I have never ever had a Dr. suggest to me drinking diet soda is a good idea. Yes of course I have been told not to drink a regular soda unless in a diabetic sugar crash. Endocrinologists across the board advise against diet soda to their diabetic patients. I was very surprised to see someone say that Dr's were informing patients to drink diet sodas.
Again I think, many people have addiction to diet soda, sure reads like some here have for Diet Dr. Pepper. I admit once in awhile I like the IBC Diet Root Beer. But for most part try to stay away. Overall I think all the um interesting items that go into diet sodas may not be good for the human body, but it is up to each person to decide if they wish to partake of it.22 -
The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
you speak the truth. And research is showing the microbiome is more crucial to our well-being than previously thought. Mentally as well as physically.26 -
maureenkhilde wrote: »I have been a diabetic for many years. I have never ever had a Dr. suggest to me drinking diet soda is a good idea. Yes of course I have been told not to drink a regular soda unless in a diabetic sugar crash. Endocrinologists across the board advise against diet soda to their diabetic patients. I was very surprised to see someone say that Dr's were informing patients to drink diet sodas.
How about the American Diabetes Association's website itself, on their "What Can I Drink" page?
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/making-healthy-food-choices/what-can-i-drink.htmlTired of Water?
There are other options!
Mix it up by choosing unsweetened teas. Hot or cold - black, green, and herbal teas provide lots of variety. You could also try sparkling water or making your own infused water at home. To make infused water, simply put water in the fridge with cucumbers, strawberries, fresh mint for a refreshing low-calorie drink. Get creative and invent your own natural fruit or herbal infusion or buy one of the many 0 calorie drinks on the market.
Most diet drinks (like diet soda or diet tea) have zero grams of carbohydrate per serving, so they will not raise blood glucose on their own. These diet drinks are sweetened with non-nutritive sweeteners instead of added sugars. Removing the added sugars and replacing them with low-calorie sweeteners removes most of the calories and carbohydrates. It is important to consider that these products may help reduce calorie and carbohydrate intake only if they are used in place of other higher calorie or carbohydrate drinks.
Other low-calorie drinks and drink mixes are available in several flavors. They may be a good alternative to regular lemonade, iced tea, fruit punch, etc. These drinks also use low-calorie sweeteners in place of sugar. They are very low in calories (about 5-10 calories per 8-ounce portion) and have less than 5 grams of carbohydrate per serving.18 -
Just to add to the topic. If you're not a mouse, there is no evidence diet drinks are associated with weight gain. So it's basically down to the individual and their habits, shocking isn't it? How is that for google research?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/249440609 -
Do artificial sweeters spike insulin? (studies linked): https://examine.com/nutrition/do-artificial-sweeteners-spike-insulin/?PHPSESSID=odgmglqvdls9p67tphuh4bia73
Is diet soda bad for you? (studies linked): https://examine.com/nutrition/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/4 -
See how it affects you. Aspartame gives me headaches and stomach problems. Surculose literally makes me vomit. I drink Zevia which uses stevia. Their version of Dr pepper is horrible just so you know3
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WinoGelato wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »Big fan of diet Pepsi and Diet Coke.
I feel like this cannot possibly be a true statement. I've never known of a single individual who finds both DP and DC to be enjoyable, it's either one or the other. And the right answer is clearly Diet Coke.
True for me as well... I drink and am a big fan of both. I buy whichever is on sale. However, I realize I am an exception.1 -
WinoGelato wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »Big fan of diet Pepsi and Diet Coke.
I feel like this cannot possibly be a true statement. I've never known of a single individual who finds both DP and DC to be enjoyable, it's either one or the other. And the right answer is clearly Diet Coke.
I like both, though neither is my favorite (Diet Mt. Dew). I had to pick up a variety of diet sodas due to where I live and what's availible (on sale).0 -
seltzermint555 wrote: »I think they taste great with certain foods like homemade pizza, tacos, or pasta with red sauce...totally hit the spot, especially Diet Pepsi or Pibb Zero. Me and my husband buy a 12 pack about once a month, and drink a couple of cans each week. That's exactly the right amount for me, I think. I used to drink zero water and 1 diet soda with both lunch and dinner every day. I feel a lot better drinking tons of water and just having the occasional diet soda.
I don't think it's somehow evil or causes severe problems in the average adult - but like anything else, excessive consumption is probably not a great idea.
I also really like flavored Perrier or LaCroix and plain San Pellegrino, but I don't feel like those are remotely similar to diet soda aside from the fact they're both carbonated. If I'm craving a Diet Pepsi, Perrier isn't going to touch that craving...same with the reverse. Just not the same (for me).
Yeah, I understand the combination of homemade pizza and pasta with red sau.....
wait.
Pibb Zero ??
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maureenkhilde wrote: »I have been a diabetic for many years. I have never ever had a Dr. suggest to me drinking diet soda is a good idea. Yes of course I have been told not to drink a regular soda unless in a diabetic sugar crash. Endocrinologists across the board advise against diet soda to their diabetic patients. I was very surprised to see someone say that Dr's were informing patients to drink diet sodas.
Again I think, many people have addiction to diet soda, sure reads like some here have for Diet Dr. Pepper. I admit once in awhile I like the IBC Diet Root Beer. But for most part try to stay away. Overall I think all the um interesting items that go into diet sodas may not be good for the human body, but it is up to each person to decide if they wish to partake of it.
yet many drs say not to drink anything high is sugar if in a diabetic crash. . but then again if you are managing your diabetes properly you shouldnt have bad crashes.
I had an uncle who didnt and ate what he wanted. he had to get body part after body part amputated because he wasnt managing his diabetes. a friend of ours who died a few months from diabetes complications used to drink soda or eat something high in sugar because it would be low, then later on he would have a crash because of bringing it up so fast with the sugary items earlier that day. I dont think an endocrinologist or any dr is going to say drink soda. most say a small piece of fruit or even if no fruit is available orange juice,but to get your insulin in asap as well. never heard them suggest soda for a crash.most I heard advised against it.
I have seen people start hallucinating due to too high or too low sugar. its scary.0 -
I think diet sodas are a very good substitute for regular sodas, except for my personal reservations about the sugar substitutes and their possible long-term effects on health. I sure do like the carbonation, though. I've learned to drink homemade herbal iced teas instead, in all sorts of wonderful flavors! Go ahead and enjoy your diet sodas! Try some unsweetened (or use Stevia) iced tea once in a while, too. My favorite diet soda are anything lemon-lime, and Vernor's Ginger Ale. In this heat, it's important to stay hydrated, so drink away!0
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dbplaisance wrote: »The aspartame in diet sodas causes devastating effects to the gut microbiome, which in turn leads to weight gain. I’ve researched this thoroughly and there are many scientific studies to back it up; do the research. This is not a simple correlation issue. Many factors go into weight gain/loss...and diet soda plays into them. As a Nutritionist and Personal Trainer, I will not work with clients who will not surrender their soda, as it is #1 offender in my book for health and weight issues. Spend the 5 min online, at the science, to look for oneself before echoing bogus, deflective rhetoric. And, just to add to the conversation, Diet Soda May be zero calorie, but it is disease inducing and destructive to health. I would never drink it, ever, if one can resist. Again, not here to argue, please just do the simple research and decide for yourself if a moments taste is worth your wellbeing This goes beyond weight.
you speak the truth. And research is showing the microbiome is more crucial to our well-being than previously thought. Mentally as well as physically.
Microbiome has become the new buzzword for pretending ones beliefs have scientific basis....kind of like how quantum physics became the buzzword for those who claimed it was some sort of evidence for their beliefs in psychic powers and crystal power.
There is no research that has shown a negative consequence from current artifical sweeteners stemming from changes to ones microbiome.
All the microbiome is is the collection of various subpopulations of bacteria that reside in your gut and aid in the digestion of foods that are not digestible by our own eukaryotic enzymes and metabolic pathways. Ones microbiome is influenced by the region you live in by nature of what bacteria you are regularly exposed to in your environment and your diet. Ones diet influences which species of bacteria will be able to colonize your gut and what subpopulations will dominate. If you change your diet in any way (yes I'll including substituting artificial sweeteners for sugar) your microbiome will change.
Where this becomes woo is where people start assigning certain changes as "good" or certain changes as "bad" on the basis of their preconceived notions and what they want to believe rather than any actual evidence. Greek yogurt changes the balance of bacteria in ones gut? Well that is good because Greek yogurt is good. Artificial sweeteners change the balance of bacteria in your gut? Well that is bad because artificial sweeteners are bad. You can just stick whatever belief in there you want and match it up to a study showing microbiome changes associated with that diet and just stick the "good" or "bad" label on it. That is what makes it woo.
I'm sure you could find any number of studies showing a change in the makeup of an organisms microbiome on the basis of any number of dietary changes...but if you the assign that change as being "good" or "bad" then that is just you injecting in your personal beliefs and trying to act like that is something the science actually backs up. Don't do that please.21 -
The short answer is calories in vs calories out leads to weight gain or loss. Beverages with zero calories therefore have no impact on weight changes.
The long answer is more complex.
As some have said above, diet soda is often "associated with" or "correlated with" weight gain, but the likely explanation for this is that many diet soda drinkers have poor eating or exercise habits that cause the weight gain. It's not the soda.
Another theory is that the sweetness triggers a chemical response in your brain that stimulates your appetite and leads to over-eating. There are studies out there that support this theory, and others that find no evidence for it.
There are also many, many studies on the potential negative effects of individual artificial sweeteners, but anything that is in your diet soda has been FDA tested and approved as safe... for now.
Personally I don't think you need anything with artificial ingredients in it, but if an occasional diet soda is what makes your life feel complete and is part of an overall healthy diet, I think you are fine.
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