Going Keto from from Monday. Anyone want to join me?
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Bone broth is beef or chicken stock sold at a significant markup.
Has anyone found store bought bone broth to come anywhere close to as good as what they've made at home?
I save all the bones in the freezer until I need stock and then cook it in the crockpot either on Low overnight or if I am in a hurry on High for 5 hours or so. (Slow cooker temps vary greatly - older ones tend to cook lower.)
Right now I have a big steak bone, a small chicken carcass, and some extra chicken wing bones going with a tablespoon of soy sauce for sodium and umami.
(I'm not keto, I just love really good stock.)2 -
mattrus1989 wrote: »I used perfectketo.com for a lot of advice. Try there for more specific help
mattrus1989 wrote: »I used perfectketo.com for a lot of advice. Try there for more specific help
Thanks!
I know Keto is trendy nd whatever now but ages ago I did Atkins and I remember feeling a bit dizzy but nothing more than that.
Thanks for the advice.
Basically I used to eat very low carb back home but that changed after I got married which us why i put all the weight on.
Ah yes, I gain weight with new relationships - I have a very predictable pattern of less time at the gym, more time watching TV, and more calorie dense foods
If low carb/keto helps you maintain a calorie deficit and you like this WOE, go for it!
I decided to reduce bread, wine, and TV time.2 -
Running_and_Coffee wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »
It could be that Keto is exactly what the OP wants to eat - but yes, usually it's not knowing about/considering any other options, or somehow thinking keto means you can eat more food and lose faster than with other methods.Why do Keto when you can lose weight eating anything you want?
People like to feel, and show the world, that they're really making an effort. You don't do that on "the eat your normal food, but less"-diet.It honestly baffles me why people want to make weight loss so complicated
Weight loss isn't complicated, but the reason why people weigh more than they want to IS complicated.
If I ate my "normal food," I would want a lot more of it than what I can eat to lose weight. My "normal food" isn't as filling as foods that are high in protein and fat. And in the past 6+ months that I have been on keto, I have been under tremendous stress and yet did not even ONCE stress eat. Because if I've outlawed for myself the kinds of foods that taste so good when you're stressed, that leaves chicken, avocado and other foods I can't imagine mindlessly shoving into my mouth while worried about my job.
I can't speak for everyone who follows keto, but I'm not trying to be fancy or trendy. I found something that works for me, and that IS the uncomplicated truth.
I'm reading the book, Hungry Brain, and I'm currently on a chapter on stress eating. They done studies where people and animals will over eat hyper palatable foods (often a refined carb and fat mix) when stressed, but tended to eat less when those foods were not a dietary option. I wonder if that partially explains your experience.
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Any electrolytes recommendation?mattrus1989 wrote: »good luck, I hope it goes well for you. I'm 4 weeks in and starting to see some benefits now. Make sure you stock up on salt or electrolyte supplements in preparation for "keto flu"
Add salt to your foods, aim to get dark leafy greens, and you can either drink keto aid, broth or pickle juice if you need more. Essentially, aiming for 3500mg or more of sodium is ideal. I a for 6000mg on my keto days and that is often low.1 -
onemanpeloton wrote: »mattrus1989 wrote: »I used perfectketo.com for a lot of advice. Try there for more specific helpmattrus1989 wrote: »I used perfectketo.com for a lot of advice. Try there for more specific help
Thanks!
I know Keto is trendy nd whatever now but ages ago I did Atkins and I remember feeling a bit dizzy but nothing more than that.
Thanks for the advice.
Basically I used to eat very low carb back home but that changed after I got married which us why i put all the weight on.
You put weight on because you ate more calories, not because you ate more carbs. So long as you understand that and have done your research and still want to do keto, good luck.
There's some interesting articles and papers that would suggest that calories are not equal, and that composition of your diet does change weight characteristics, regardless of the calorie count
If you look at studies that hold calories constant, the high protein group will always have higher fat loss and compliance. It supports metabolism, increases adherence and helps with fullness. Fats and carbs have really no impact outside of personal preference.5 -
Send me all your leftover carbs.3
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Why do Keto when you can lose weight eating anything you want? It honestly baffles me why people want to make weight loss so complicated
Why wouldn't a keto diet be considered eating anything you want? People don't come with a default setting where we all have to like the same things and want to eat them. If you are eating foods you like and enjoy, then you're eating anything you want, regardless if it's keto, low carb, paleo, clean, vegetarian, vegan, IIFYM, flexible dieting, etc. I don't understand why people seem to think that others are making their lives more difficult by eating in a way that works for them.
You can still eat any keto foods without actually saying 'I'm doing keto'. By giving your diet a name it means that you are being restrictive and committing to never eating certain food groups which is a recipe for failure in my opinion.5 -
Why do Keto when you can lose weight eating anything you want? It honestly baffles me why people want to make weight loss so complicated
Why wouldn't a keto diet be considered eating anything you want? People don't come with a default setting where we all have to like the same things and want to eat them. If you are eating foods you like and enjoy, then you're eating anything you want, regardless if it's keto, low carb, paleo, clean, vegetarian, vegan, IIFYM, flexible dieting, etc. I don't understand why people seem to think that others are making their lives more difficult by eating in a way that works for them.
You can still eat any keto foods without actually saying 'I'm doing keto'. By giving your diet a name it means that you are being restrictive and committing to never eating certain food groups which is a recipe for failure in my opinion.
But aren't all diets and changes to lifestyle restrictive? That's kind of the point. For me, I find that I need a strong framework to work within, it keeps me disciplined. If I knew that certain "bad" foods were on the table as a possibility, I wouldn't have the self-control to avoid them.1 -
Most people need to make a conscious effort to limit food intake. The universal key to success is to find a set of boundaries that are strict enough, but not too strict. But exactly what boundaries, is going to be deeply personal, and how strict something feels, is going to be subjective. So the clue is to find something that restricts without feeling restrictive.onemanpeloton wrote: »Why do Keto when you can lose weight eating anything you want? It honestly baffles me why people want to make weight loss so complicated
Why wouldn't a keto diet be considered eating anything you want? People don't come with a default setting where we all have to like the same things and want to eat them. If you are eating foods you like and enjoy, then you're eating anything you want, regardless if it's keto, low carb, paleo, clean, vegetarian, vegan, IIFYM, flexible dieting, etc. I don't understand why people seem to think that others are making their lives more difficult by eating in a way that works for them.
You can still eat any keto foods without actually saying 'I'm doing keto'. By giving your diet a name it means that you are being restrictive and committing to never eating certain food groups which is a recipe for failure in my opinion.
But aren't all diets and changes to lifestyle restrictive? That's kind of the point. For me, I find that I need a strong framework to work within, it keeps me disciplined. If I knew that certain "bad" foods were on the table as a possibility, I wouldn't have the self-control to avoid them.2 -
Why do Keto when you can lose weight eating anything you want? It honestly baffles me why people want to make weight loss so complicated
Why wouldn't a keto diet be considered eating anything you want? People don't come with a default setting where we all have to like the same things and want to eat them. If you are eating foods you like and enjoy, then you're eating anything you want, regardless if it's keto, low carb, paleo, clean, vegetarian, vegan, IIFYM, flexible dieting, etc. I don't understand why people seem to think that others are making their lives more difficult by eating in a way that works for them.
You can still eat any keto foods without actually saying 'I'm doing keto'. By giving your diet a name it means that you are being restrictive and committing to never eating certain food groups which is a recipe for failure in my opinion.
I eat foods that are considered okay on a keto diet, but I am not "doing keto" because that particular way of eating involves getting into ketosis. Keto isn't about food groups, it's about macro counts, there is no rule saying you can't have a food from a particular food group - you can eat whatever foods you want which fit into those macros, much like with IIFYM, low carb, flexible dieting, calorie counting, etc.
Does that mean that certain foods are going to be excluded? Possibly. Just like my daily calorie goal means that I can't fit in certain foods every day without blowing my calories or having a horrible nutrition profile. But for many of those foods, I haven't felt that I am missing out on anything by not having them. Are vegetarians and vegans failures waiting to happen as well because they don't eat certain foods?
Also, what is this "committing to never eating certain food groups"? Just because you try out a certain way of eating doesn't mean that you are stuck with it forever. Many users here will stick to their calorie goals 11 months out of the year, but relax that during the holidays in response to holiday events. I know people who switch up their diets based on training needs for a sport over the course of the year. Figure competitors will do bulk and cut cycles, then go low carb before a competition- are they failures because they ate low carb a portion of the year?
The biggest predictor of failure when it comes to weight loss is not choosing a method that is appropriate for the individual and their situation, and not having the tools to compensate when the situation changes. There are so many flexible dieters on these forums who have gained weight back because their life situation changed in some way - employment, moved to a new location, started a family, family issues, physical or mental health issues - that doesn't make flexible dieting a failed method.4 -
onemanpeloton wrote: »Why do Keto when you can lose weight eating anything you want? It honestly baffles me why people want to make weight loss so complicated
Why wouldn't a keto diet be considered eating anything you want? People don't come with a default setting where we all have to like the same things and want to eat them. If you are eating foods you like and enjoy, then you're eating anything you want, regardless if it's keto, low carb, paleo, clean, vegetarian, vegan, IIFYM, flexible dieting, etc. I don't understand why people seem to think that others are making their lives more difficult by eating in a way that works for them.
You can still eat any keto foods without actually saying 'I'm doing keto'. By giving your diet a name it means that you are being restrictive and committing to never eating certain food groups which is a recipe for failure in my opinion.
But aren't all diets and changes to lifestyle restrictive? That's kind of the point. For me, I find that I need a strong framework to work within, it keeps me disciplined. If I knew that certain "bad" foods were on the table as a possibility, I wouldn't have the self-control to avoid them.
Depends on how you look at it. Personally, my diet isn't restrictive, it's just well managed. There is the base layer of habits, These happen with minimal if any willpower and discipline, and then there is the second layer of structure, happens with near minimal willpower. The third layer is the layer of responses, and what makes up the majority of my diet. Instead of rigid rules, bright lines, and bad foods, I have a dynamic situation->strategy framework. With each eating situation, I choose the easiest strategy that serves my goals but requires the least amount of willpower, so the need for discipline isn't great. My main goal is to make dieting easier, not harder.6 -
Dear Posters,
Please keep this thread focused on supporting the OP as she requested in the initial post. If you have keto experiences or tips this is the place to share them.
If you wish to debate macros vs calories for weight loss that discussion has been moved here:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10682674/calories-vs-carbs-for-weight-loss/p1?new=1
There are also many great debates in the debate section about keto as a trend and how well it works.
If you find anything specific in this thread you would like to further debate please feel free to quote the posts and take it over to the debate section so as not to hijack this thread.
Thanks for your cooperation
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Why do Keto when you can lose weight eating anything you want? It honestly baffles me why people want to make weight loss so complicated
If it was that easy no one would be overweight. Me and my sister were diagnosed with pcos and both our Doctors said keto would be great for us. It isn't complicated, there is no cure for something like pcos, it's about diet and exercise and I tried lowering my calories and exercising more..what everyone seems to think works for everyone..guess what? I gained weight, bloating and constipation were a daily struggle and I felt sluggish. I am 2 weeks into keto and I have lost 2" off my waist, 3lbs, acne has cleared up and I feel so much better. Before keto I would never have seen a 3lb loss. It may not be much to some but for me it's amazing. You don't need to understand why people eat the way they do and going keto is not making anything complicated.8 -
I’ll join you4
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I'll join you aswell I'm on day 10 or 11🤔 and went from 276 to 2631
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Thanks to everyone showing support and giving informed advise/tips/recommendations.
I have accepted all your friends requests.
For the rest of you: how disappointing! I thought this was a different kind of community.
I'm not an ignorant. I have done a lot of research, talked to a Doctor, a qualified Dietitian, discussed different solutions to my health issues (which I will not discuss here) and yes, I decided I will give Keto a try. I have been preparing for this for weeks. I will follow a controled meal plan that has been created according to my taste, goals, nutritional needs and budget, and it will be reviewed every four weeks.
I absolutely LOVE all the foods in it and don't think I will miss the rest.
Can't wait for tomorrow!
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any recommendations on a book or a guide to starting the Keto diet?0
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I used Morton Lite Salt which contains potassium. Also I sipped on any flavor boullion (cubes) which game me a nice start on my sodium for the day. Don't forget that Himalayan Pink Salt has many of the things which will also help you avoid (or survive) the Keto flu. The weight loss is real.4
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Any electrolytes recommendation?mattrus1989 wrote: »good luck, I hope it goes well for you. I'm 4 weeks in and starting to see some benefits now. Make sure you stock up on salt or electrolyte supplements in preparation for "keto flu"
Not sure you've done enough reading on it. This is pretty common and readily available info. Most sources will warn you about the "keto flu" and what to do about it. I'm all for Keto or whatever gets ppl to their goals, but this one can lead to some deficiencies so be careful.2 -
I know it's only been a few days but how's it going? I'm trying to do Keto as well.
What have been some struggles you noticed?
I'm doing my best to prepare myself otherwise i know I might not stick with it0
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