stevencloser wrote: » leftsox wrote: » aimeedeniseheard wrote: » Hands down... KETO is the best diet for weight loss 5% carbs 20% lean protein 75% healthy fats at every meal. It’s a winner! I agree, but you will always have those people who comment nonsense just to try to sound smart. I work in healthcare and wanna guess the two most recommended diets by cardiologists? I'll give you a hint one starts with an A and the other a K But you ask a dietitian and they start talking food pyramids like the 70s. Let's see... Since doctors on average get as much nutrition training as a high school student, while dieticians literally have their whole field exclusively as their studies, I'd go with those.
leftsox wrote: » aimeedeniseheard wrote: » Hands down... KETO is the best diet for weight loss 5% carbs 20% lean protein 75% healthy fats at every meal. It’s a winner! I agree, but you will always have those people who comment nonsense just to try to sound smart. I work in healthcare and wanna guess the two most recommended diets by cardiologists? I'll give you a hint one starts with an A and the other a K But you ask a dietitian and they start talking food pyramids like the 70s.
aimeedeniseheard wrote: » Hands down... KETO is the best diet for weight loss 5% carbs 20% lean protein 75% healthy fats at every meal. It’s a winner!
tannerrobertson927 wrote: » There’s a lot of haters out here! Keto is awesome! Pumped on other people who have found what I have found. Keep it up Aimee!!! 🤙
Running_and_Coffee wrote: » Wouldn't it be nice if we could just be supportive of each other's attempts to follow any sort of strategy that results in success that isn't actually dangerous? We all have to deal with food pushers, judgy siblings demanding an explanation for why the salad dressing is on the side, the temptation to just hit that snooze button one more time and skip the workout, the desire to leap off the treadmill because ugghhhh this is so hard, the temptation to eat a slice of a piece of cake that says "Happy Birthday Becky" that's in the work breakroom, even though we don't like Becky or care about her birthday. We are sick of our Spanx and have "skinny jeans" in our closet and our kitchens are full of measuring cups and our brains are full of random factoids, like 1 oz. of avocado is exactly 50 calories and that cooked raw chicken weighs less than when it's raw. We are all here to fight for what we want. That's a good thing. BTW, 7 months on keto, 7 YEARS using MFP for calorie tracking, and you know what? Keto works absolutely fine. It's just like any other calorie restriction plan.
mph323 wrote: » Running_and_Coffee wrote: » Wouldn't it be nice if we could just be supportive of each other's attempts to follow any sort of strategy that results in success that isn't actually dangerous? We all have to deal with food pushers, judgy siblings demanding an explanation for why the salad dressing is on the side, the temptation to just hit that snooze button one more time and skip the workout, the desire to leap off the treadmill because ugghhhh this is so hard, the temptation to eat a slice of a piece of cake that says "Happy Birthday Becky" that's in the work breakroom, even though we don't like Becky or care about her birthday. We are sick of our Spanx and have "skinny jeans" in our closet and our kitchens are full of measuring cups and our brains are full of random factoids, like 1 oz. of avocado is exactly 50 calories and that cooked raw chicken weighs less than when it's raw. We are all here to fight for what we want. That's a good thing. BTW, 7 months on keto, 7 YEARS using MFP for calorie tracking, and you know what? Keto works absolutely fine. It's just like any other calorie restriction plan. So you're pretty much OK with new members reading "Keto is the way to lose weight", forcing themselves to follow a food plan that cuts out all the foods they may find satiating, and beating themselves up because they can't stick to the plan?
Running_and_Coffee wrote: » mph323 wrote: » Running_and_Coffee wrote: » Wouldn't it be nice if we could just be supportive of each other's attempts to follow any sort of strategy that results in success that isn't actually dangerous? We all have to deal with food pushers, judgy siblings demanding an explanation for why the salad dressing is on the side, the temptation to just hit that snooze button one more time and skip the workout, the desire to leap off the treadmill because ugghhhh this is so hard, the temptation to eat a slice of a piece of cake that says "Happy Birthday Becky" that's in the work breakroom, even though we don't like Becky or care about her birthday. We are sick of our Spanx and have "skinny jeans" in our closet and our kitchens are full of measuring cups and our brains are full of random factoids, like 1 oz. of avocado is exactly 50 calories and that cooked raw chicken weighs less than when it's raw. We are all here to fight for what we want. That's a good thing. BTW, 7 months on keto, 7 YEARS using MFP for calorie tracking, and you know what? Keto works absolutely fine. It's just like any other calorie restriction plan. So you're pretty much OK with new members reading "Keto is the way to lose weight", forcing themselves to follow a food plan that cuts out all the foods they may find satiating, and beating themselves up because they can't stick to the plan? I'm OK with them trying a plan, whether it's Keto or another plan. It's not my place to "be OK" with another adult's diet plan, anyway. Also, I am not sure where "trying keto" has to equal failing miserably and beating themselves up. Cutting out foods that they might find satiating applies to ANYTHING involving eating less. BTW, most people who like keto like it because the foods you do eat are satiating.
Running_and_Coffee wrote: » So you guys are worried that because some person says "Keto is the best," another newbie is going to think they should try it, and then they will fail at the diet, and then blame themselves? And this "no it's not the best" is an effort to prevent them from being gullible and therefore is protecting new dieters from failure and self-doubt? Am I understanding that correctly??
leftsox wrote: » stevencloser wrote: » leftsox wrote: » aimeedeniseheard wrote: » Hands down... KETO is the best diet for weight loss 5% carbs 20% lean protein 75% healthy fats at every meal. It’s a winner! I agree, but you will always have those people who comment nonsense just to try to sound smart. I work in healthcare and wanna guess the two most recommended diets by cardiologists? I'll give you a hint one starts with an A and the other a K But you ask a dietitian and they start talking food pyramids like the 70s. Let's see... Since doctors on average get as much nutrition training as a high school student, while dieticians literally have their whole field exclusively as their studies, I'd go with those. Your wrong. I work in home infusion. We provide multiple therapies for patient in thier home. Like TPN. Enteral, inotrop, ivig,etc. For our patients who are on inotrop..the physician instructs the meal plan not the dietitian. We have dietitians on staff but guess who's orders they follow? Same goes for TPN which supplies 100% of the nutrician needed by the patient..proscription comes from the doctor not a dietitian.
leftsox wrote: » kommodevaran wrote: » Keto is not even an acronym, and you're supposed to split macros into nutrients, not foods, so Lol Keto is an abbreviation and we are splitting foods into macros. Your comment makes no sense.
kommodevaran wrote: » Keto is not even an acronym, and you're supposed to split macros into nutrients, not foods, so
leftsox wrote: » fb47 wrote: » tannerrobertson927 wrote: » There’s a lot of haters out here! Keto is awesome! Pumped on other people who have found what I have found. Keep it up Aimee!!! 🤙 Probably because the keto community has become one large cult these days, praising it like if it was Jesus Christ coming back to life and come up with absurd and bad information, just read the OP's comments for a good example. On this board, keto followers and IF'ers are the only two groups who have this need for creating a post like this and shout out their love for their diets when they have their own community group where they can do that. PS I am not putting all keto and IF followers in the same boat, some are reasonable people who just do those diets because they see it as a tool and don't need to make a big stink about what diet they use. What I dont get is why..if you dont agree with the OP you dont scroll by. Why rain on someone's parade? I've been in keto a week and came here for encouragement and all I see is a bunch of arm chair doctors linking some random article they found that says keto..bad....when I could link just as many that go the other way. I could understand if the OP was going to profit from these posts but she was just excited. If people cannot handle being happy for someone else then why be on here at all?
fb47 wrote: » tannerrobertson927 wrote: » There’s a lot of haters out here! Keto is awesome! Pumped on other people who have found what I have found. Keep it up Aimee!!! 🤙 Probably because the keto community has become one large cult these days, praising it like if it was Jesus Christ coming back to life and come up with absurd and bad information, just read the OP's comments for a good example. On this board, keto followers and IF'ers are the only two groups who have this need for creating a post like this and shout out their love for their diets when they have their own community group where they can do that. PS I am not putting all keto and IF followers in the same boat, some are reasonable people who just do those diets because they see it as a tool and don't need to make a big stink about what diet they use.
nutmegoreo wrote: » leftsox wrote: » fb47 wrote: » tannerrobertson927 wrote: » There’s a lot of haters out here! Keto is awesome! Pumped on other people who have found what I have found. Keep it up Aimee!!! 🤙 Probably because the keto community has become one large cult these days, praising it like if it was Jesus Christ coming back to life and come up with absurd and bad information, just read the OP's comments for a good example. On this board, keto followers and IF'ers are the only two groups who have this need for creating a post like this and shout out their love for their diets when they have their own community group where they can do that. PS I am not putting all keto and IF followers in the same boat, some are reasonable people who just do those diets because they see it as a tool and don't need to make a big stink about what diet they use. What I dont get is why..if you dont agree with the OP you dont scroll by. Why rain on someone's parade? I've been in keto a week and came here for encouragement and all I see is a bunch of arm chair doctors linking some random article they found that says keto..bad....when I could link just as many that go the other way. I could understand if the OP was going to profit from these posts but she was just excited. If people cannot handle being happy for someone else then why be on here at all? There is another thread currently running where someone has posted just such an article. The same people you are railing against here, are are discussing the merits of the study in question. At the end of the day, eating keto is not what is being argued against, it is the sweeping generalizations of good for everyone, magical health benefits, or (as in the other thread) bad for everyone.
leftsox wrote: » janejellyroll wrote: » leftsox wrote: » aimeedeniseheard wrote: » Hands down... KETO is the best diet for weight loss 5% carbs 20% lean protein 75% healthy fats at every meal. It’s a winner! I agree, but you will always have those people who comment nonsense just to try to sound smart. I work in healthcare and wanna guess the two most recommended diets by cardiologists? I'll give you a hint one starts with an A and the other a K But you ask a dietitian and they start talking food pyramids like the 70s. Being happy that this plan worked for OP but acknowledging that keto isn't universally pleasant or sustainable isn't nonsense. Who said it was unpleasant? For you maybe..I like my butter and heavy cream...
janejellyroll wrote: » leftsox wrote: » aimeedeniseheard wrote: » Hands down... KETO is the best diet for weight loss 5% carbs 20% lean protein 75% healthy fats at every meal. It’s a winner! I agree, but you will always have those people who comment nonsense just to try to sound smart. I work in healthcare and wanna guess the two most recommended diets by cardiologists? I'll give you a hint one starts with an A and the other a K But you ask a dietitian and they start talking food pyramids like the 70s. Being happy that this plan worked for OP but acknowledging that keto isn't universally pleasant or sustainable isn't nonsense.
mmapags wrote: » leftsox wrote: » janejellyroll wrote: » leftsox wrote: » aimeedeniseheard wrote: » Hands down... KETO is the best diet for weight loss 5% carbs 20% lean protein 75% healthy fats at every meal. It’s a winner! I agree, but you will always have those people who comment nonsense just to try to sound smart. I work in healthcare and wanna guess the two most recommended diets by cardiologists? I'll give you a hint one starts with an A and the other a K But you ask a dietitian and they start talking food pyramids like the 70s. Being happy that this plan worked for OP but acknowledging that keto isn't universally pleasant or sustainable isn't nonsense. Who said it was unpleasant? For you maybe..I like my butter and heavy cream... I like butter and heavy cream. I also like lots of fresh fruits and veggies including (horrors!) Potatoes!
Caralarma wrote: » mmapags wrote: » leftsox wrote: » janejellyroll wrote: » leftsox wrote: » aimeedeniseheard wrote: » Hands down... KETO is the best diet for weight loss 5% carbs 20% lean protein 75% healthy fats at every meal. It’s a winner! I agree, but you will always have those people who comment nonsense just to try to sound smart. I work in healthcare and wanna guess the two most recommended diets by cardiologists? I'll give you a hint one starts with an A and the other a K But you ask a dietitian and they start talking food pyramids like the 70s. Being happy that this plan worked for OP but acknowledging that keto isn't universally pleasant or sustainable isn't nonsense. Who said it was unpleasant? For you maybe..I like my butter and heavy cream... I like butter and heavy cream. I also like lots of fresh fruits and veggies including (horrors!) Potatoes! Lol. Keto people will always try convince themselves and everyone else that their diet is sustainable and flexible because they get to 'eat so kick yummy full fat and creamy foods'. Um ya.. so can flexible dieters, only we dont have to treat carbs like they are demons.. or anything else for that matter. Limiting any food group is just not a way of life in my opinion and it's also unnecessary because weight loss is about calories, not food groups.
