August 2018 Running Challenge
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Neither particularly introverted or extroverted here. Don't have a lot of friends, bothers me sometimes but not often. Prefer to run alone, with no music, as other people either slow me down or make me run too fast. I think I may simply be self centred!
Running challenge
1 August: Yoga
2 August: 18.43 at 6:10 pace
3 August: Rest
4 August: Rest (fly to Fiji)
5 August: Rest
6 August: 5.2km
7 August: 5.2km
8 August: 5.2km
9 August: 5.2km
10 August: 5.2km
11 August: Rest (fly home)
12 August: Rest (plus about 4 hours of gardening and lawn mowing)
13 August: Yoga
14 August: 6km
15 August: Yoga
50.43 of 120km for August8 -
1---3.03 run
2---8.72 mile mtn bike ride
4---6.22 intervals
5---8.06 hike
7---3.31 intervals
8---8.60 muddy trails bike
11---5.27 interval run
12---5.80 interval run
14---4.02 interval run
Running. 35.7/85 miles
Cycling. 17.3 miles
Upcoming Races
October 14th Spirit of Survival Lawton OK. Quarter Marathon
November 3rd Dinosaur Valley Endurance Run. Half. Glen Rose TX
March 31, 2019 A2A Undecided distance. Ardmore OK
April 28, 2019 OKC Memorial Marathon (half)4 -
amymoreorless wrote: »Okay, answer a debate I have with a person in my running group. When running, the body diverts energy away from the digestive system and into our moving and working parts ( https://www.manhattangastroenterology.com/exercise-affects-digestion/ ). Does eating a small something during a long run really help?
I never eat during a run because it upsets my stomach. I wake up early and eat something small (toast, banana, etc) an hour before a long run. I bring a diluted energy drink in my hydration belt for runs over 10 miles. I did not eat during my marathon last December except for one orange slice at mile 21. A few people in my running group (not all) are telling me that eating helps. They try to sell me on that Gu and shotblock stuff. I have never found this to be true. Food takes a while to digest even when the body is at rest. Thoughts?
In a long slow easy run, I might not need a gel to run 12 or 14 miles. I'll take one at 6 or 7 miles anyway. My last 20 mile run, I took gels at 6.5 and 13.5 miles. I might have been okay with just one, or with none. Other runners report training themselves to run 10 or even 18 miles with no nutrition.
Here's the deal: My first pace leader, a multiple-time iron man, explained that you take gels (or Shot Bloks or whatever) on training runs in part to train your body to digest while running. Then when you get to the marathon or ironman tri, your body is used to what you trained with, digests it, and gives you the energy from the gel/blok/whatever in addition to however much energy you were able to store with carb loading. But if you don't train with eating, chances are that eating won't do you much good on race day.
So you train taking nutrition for several reasons:
- To determine what foods/products your body will accept.
- To train your body to digest something while running, so you can keep running faster than an easy pace for longer.
- So that when a gel that was never a problem in training *is* a problem on race day, it gives you a clue that there's something else going on. (Not that I've ever been smart enough to perceive that clue in real time during a race.)
- So that on race day, opening the gel is a familiar activity that you can do at marathon pace and don't have to stop to figure out. (Don't underestimate this. The rain at Boston disrupted the normality of opening gels sufficiently that I took probably 2 fewer than I should have.)
All that having been said, every runner is a unique individual. Food does take a while to digest, even something like a gel that is engineered to be digested quickly. Some people have trickier digestive systems than others; if you're one of the lucky ones whose stomach is easily upset, you just have to figure out what works for you personally. It does you no good for me to say all brands of gels are about the same, if you can only take GU or only take Honey Stinger gels.4 -
cburke8909 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »In church we’re supposed to ‘take a minute and greet people around you’ and I hate it. Forced socializing. I prefer being social on my own terms.
Funny thing about that... we do not do that at my church, in part because all the research that I have seen says visitor list it as their number 1 complaint when visiting a new church. I tend to agree with them.
L.p.
Funny for me because I would classify as mostly introvert.(teaching is a very extrovert thing) but as much as I like pastor Vincent I could not attend a church where people didn't shake hands and greet each other. (No judgement here. It just wouldn't work as spiritual for me.)
You miss understand. We are a very friendly church. You are likely to get hugged if you show up (not by me though!). What we do not do, is the fake ‘take a minute and greet people around you’ thing that many churches do. We let any interaction happen naturally and do not order it as part of the service. 1 -
BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Another introvert here (INTJ on the Meyers Briggs thingy). I love the fact that running is just me and my thoughts.
My worst nightmare is having to go to conferences and do those awful 'ice-breakers' or having to go on team-building exercises with my colleagues.
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All that having been said, every runner is a unique individual. Food does take a while to digest, even something like a gel that is engineered to be digested quickly. Some people have trickier digestive systems than others; if you're one of the lucky ones whose stomach is easily upset, you just have to figure out what works for you personally. It does you no good for me to say all brands of gels are about the same, if you can only take GU or only take Honey Stinger gels.
This. One runner I know could not finish a 5k because she had a milkshake 2 hours before - this is a woman that has run way longer races (from up through and including marathon) so it was not fitness, it was the diary.
I, on the other hand, probably could drink a milkshake in the starting corral and be okay. I have had milkshakes an hour or two before races and not had a problem.
So you need to test for yourself and see what works for you cause what works for me might now. 0 -
August Running Totals (miles)
8/1 – 2.97 IEXC 5K #1
8/2 – 7.28 MP and easy
8/3 – rest day
8/4 – 16.01 paced run
8/5 – 6.28 easy with fast finish
8/6 – rest day
8/7 – 5.35 warmup, soft tempo run
8/8 – 3.99 warmup + IEXC 5K #2
8/9 – 10.04 easy
8/10 – rest day
8/11 – 20.02 partly paced run
8/12 – rest day
8/13 – 5.01 easy
8/14 – 5.67 warmup, speed play, cool down
August running total to date – 82.62
Nominal August mileage goal: 180 miles
Real goals: Avoid injury. Continue to build base and train toward Oak Tree Half and Wineglass Marathon.
Today's notes – It rained this morning. The forecast had decreasing chance of rain as time went on, to about 50% at club practice time. I looked at the sky, looked at the hourly forecast, looked at the clock, looked at the various speed workouts the club had listed, and ended up driving to the west side of town to work out with the other training program. Part of this was traffic as I exited my driveway, part was wanting an easier day, part was forecasts calling for the rain to clear earlier on the west side than on the east side of town.
The FF training program has a shorter warmup and cooldown, and easier speed work designed for beginning distance runners. I didn't know what the coach would have till I got there. It turned out to be 3 x 0.90 miles of single file running with 2-3 minutes recovery. The idea is, a group of people run the loop in the park in single file at about their easy long run pace. The back runner peels off and runs to the front, and the next up peels off and follows. For an odd number of people the next-to-back runner should end up in front; for an even number, the back runner should end up in front. Over time, this means everyone does both the initial peel off and pass and the take off after the runner making a move.
In theory, this is practicing following someone who breaks away from the pack in a race. I thought of it as also practicing keying off a runner, and not letting that runner get too far ahead while also not making an effort to pass that runner.
As it happened, there were several runners there with a long run pace of 9:00 or 9:30. The coach put me in the fast group, and asked me to try to hold it to 9:00 between sprints. Don't know how well I did when I was in the lead, but I can stay behind someone else who is setting the pace. And everyone in that group was capable of passing me when I'm just running easy.
Garmin says our 3 loops of this game averaged 8:09, 8:06, and 8:15 per mile. They felt very easy to me. I ran easy during most of the recovery intervals, and after the last one took a short loop of the path. Caught the slowest group near the end, and surprised them by passing them in my turn right before they finished.
It felt cool enough at 77º F, but the dewpoint was 69º F so I was soaked with sweat when we got done. Probably due to the cut up nature of the night and the fact that I was toning it down to slower runner's target paces, I felt pretty fresh. It's nice to just run and feel healthy once in a while, instead of pushing really hard.
2018 races:
February 17, 2018 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) finished in 54:48
February 24, 2018 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) finished in 28:46
March 17, 2018 USATF Masters 8K (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 31:55
March 24, 2018 Spring Forward 15K (Mendon, NY) ran at MP, finished in 1:10:47
April 16, 2018 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:28:43
April 29, 2018 USATF Masters 10K (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 41:33
May 20, 2018 Lilac 10K (Rochester, NY) finished in 42:21
May 26, 2018 Sunset House 5K (Rochester, NY) finished in 20:12
June 3, 2018 USATF Masters Half Marathon (Ann Arbor, MI) finished in 1:34:42
June 9, 2018 Ontario Summit Trail Half Marathon (Naples, NY) DNS - injury
June 17, 2018 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) short course, 18:04 for ~2.9 miles
June 30, 2018 Charlie's Old Goat Trail Run 5 mile (Victor, NY) 4.89 miles by Garmin, 43:15
July 14, 2018 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:45:54
July 28, 2018 Battle at Bristol 10K (Naples, NY) survived in 1:28:33
August 1, 2018 IEXC 5K #1 (Rochester, NY) finished in 22:17
August 8, 2018 IEXC 5K #2 (Rochester, NY) finished in 22:10
August 22, 2018 IEXC 5K #3 (Rochester, NY)
August 29, 2018 IEXC 5K #4 (Rochester NY)
August 29, 2018 IEXC TDP 1 mile (Rochester, NY)
August 29, 2018 IEXC TDP 400m (Rochester, NY)
September 2, 2018 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY)
September 30, 2018 Wineglass Marathon (Bath, NY)
November 11, 2018 Syracuse Half Marathon (Syracuse, NY)6 -
8/1 3.5 m
8/2 Rest
8/3 Rest
8/4 3.5 m
8/5 5 m
8/6 Rest
8/7 UP Rest
8/8 3.5 m
8/9 Rest
8/10 2.5 m am run
8/11 3 m
8/12 UP Rest
8/13 2 m
8/14 1.5 m
Short distance after work last night and even shorter tonight. My shoes are on their last leg so today I thought hey I'll bust out those one shoes I don't wear and see how it goes. Yeah, there's a reason I don't wear them. Called it quits 1.5 m in because I could feel the blisters starting to form and walked home. Then I kettlebelled til I was too tired to be angry.
24.5/75
Upcoming Races:
10/? 2 mile RACC Inauguration Celebration Run *maybe*
10/28 Fitzy's Run 5k
12/8 West Reading Run Santa Run 5k8 -
8/1 3.5 m
8/2 Rest
8/3 Rest
8/4 3.5 m
8/5 5 m
8/6 Rest
8/7 UP Rest
8/8 3.5 m
8/9 Rest
8/10 2.5 m am run
8/11 3 m
8/12 UP Rest
8/13 2 m
8/14 1.5 m
Short distance after work last night and even shorter tonight. My shoes are on their last leg so today I thought hey I'll bust out those one shoes I don't wear and see how it goes. Yeah, there's a reason I don't wear them. Called it quits 1.5 m in because I could feel the blisters starting to form and walked home. Then I kettlebelled til I was too tired to be angry.
24.5/75
Upcoming Races:
10/? 2 mile RACC Inauguration Celebration Run *maybe*
10/28 Fitzy's Run 5k
12/8 West Reading Run Santa Run 5k
Never mind! Sorry about your shoes, though.0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »All that having been said, every runner is a unique individual. Food does take a while to digest, even something like a gel that is engineered to be digested quickly. Some people have trickier digestive systems than others; if you're one of the lucky ones whose stomach is easily upset, you just have to figure out what works for you personally. It does you no good for me to say all brands of gels are about the same, if you can only take GU or only take Honey Stinger gels.
This. One runner I know could not finish a 5k because she had a milkshake 2 hours before - this is a woman that has run way longer races (from up through and including marathon) so it was not fitness, it was the diary.
I, on the other hand, probably could drink a milkshake in the starting corral and be okay. I have had milkshakes an hour or two before races and not had a problem.
So you need to test for yourself and see what works for you cause what works for me might now.
This +1. I almost bailed out of my first full marathon because I ate too much that morning as suggested by a more experienced friend. "You'll get really hungry out there! Better eat some more," she said. Started feeling nauseous at 28km and nearly didn't make it. Couldn't eat a thing until nightfall.
Now I know that I'm one of those people who can either run or digest, not both. During longer trail runs, I eat sparingly and then walk for maybe a quarter hour coming out of the station.1 -
cburke8909 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »In church we’re supposed to ‘take a minute and greet people around you’ and I hate it. Forced socializing. I prefer being social on my own terms.
Funny thing about that... we do not do that at my church, in part because all the research that I have seen says visitor list it as their number 1 complaint when visiting a new church. I tend to agree with them.
L.p.
Funny for me because I would classify as mostly introvert.(teaching is a very extrovert thing) but as much as I like pastor Vincent I could not attend a church where people didn't shake hands and greet each other. (No judgement here. It just wouldn't work as spiritual for me.)
For me the "turn around and greet someone" ritual is manufactured. Everyone knows we're only doing it because we have to, and for me it does more to highlight the unfriendliness of a group of people if everyone arrives and makes it to their seats without greeting anyone naturally, and then suddenly puts on a smile and wants to shake my hand on cue from the leader.5 -
PastorVincent wrote: »All that having been said, every runner is a unique individual. Food does take a while to digest, even something like a gel that is engineered to be digested quickly. Some people have trickier digestive systems than others; if you're one of the lucky ones whose stomach is easily upset, you just have to figure out what works for you personally. It does you no good for me to say all brands of gels are about the same, if you can only take GU or only take Honey Stinger gels.
This. One runner I know could not finish a 5k because she had a milkshake 2 hours before - this is a woman that has run way longer races (from up through and including marathon) so it was not fitness, it was the diary.
I, on the other hand, probably could drink a milkshake in the starting corral and be okay. I have had milkshakes an hour or two before races and not had a problem.
So you need to test for yourself and see what works for you cause what works for me might now.
This +1. I almost bailed out of my first full marathon because I ate too much that morning as suggested by a more experienced friend. "You'll get really hungry out there! Better eat some more," she said. Started feeling nauseous at 28km and nearly didn't make it. Couldn't eat a thing until nightfall.
Now I know that I'm one of those people who can either run or digest, not both. During longer trail runs, I eat sparingly and then walk for maybe a quarter hour coming out of the station.
I cannot eat dairy at all before a run, any run.
I do have problems with low energy and dizziness though if I don't eat enough before even an easy run or during a long run. I had to try many things to find something I liked that liked me too. I can't tolerate GUs - they are too sticky, too sweet, too ugh! and whatever I do have I have to have water with it. I also found initially if I didn't chew whatever I had (Shotbloks, gummy bears, etc.) but let it dissolve slowly in my mouth I had less issues. These days I use SKRATCH Labs fruit chews, really soft fruity candy things but they have all the right ingredients. It could also be in the form of a hydration/energy powder added to my water. But it does come down to training your body to accept/use it as well as timing it for effectiveness (eating/drinking before you necessarily feel like you need it to keep your glucose levels up and steady). I have also had to train my body to eat after a run/race. For a long time I would go hours because I just couldn't eat - the very thought of eating anything made me nauseous.3 -
8/1 3.5 m
8/2 Rest
8/3 Rest
8/4 3.5 m
8/5 5 m
8/6 Rest
8/7 UP Rest
8/8 3.5 m
8/9 Rest
8/10 2.5 m am run
8/11 3 m
8/12 UP Rest
8/13 2 m
8/14 1.5 m
Short distance after work last night and even shorter tonight. My shoes are on their last leg so today I thought hey I'll bust out those one shoes I don't wear and see how it goes. Yeah, there's a reason I don't wear them. Called it quits 1.5 m in because I could feel the blisters starting to form and walked home. Then I kettlebelled til I was too tired to be angry.
24.5/75
Upcoming Races:
10/? 2 mile RACC Inauguration Celebration Run *maybe*
10/28 Fitzy's Run 5k
12/8 West Reading Run Santa Run 5k
I learned the hard way, now I always carry bandaid sports bandages for blisters in my run belt. I stop when I feel a problem and put a bandaid on, because even walking back in shoes that aren't working will give me blisters for days.6 -
I can't eat anything at ALL for at least 3 hours before I run. Nausea is the least of it. Sometimes I can't finish a run due to cramping even. However, I can shove food in my mouth the second I finish a run. Gu gels work for me, but only certain flavors. Some are way too sweet. So I use the ones I know work without issues. I find if I use one every 45-60 minutes, I'm good.
Major introvert here. Also INTJ (did you know that we are less than 1% of all people?!) on Myers Briggs. I do all my peopoling at work. My social circle is small. I take quality over quantity in that respect. I run solo and likely always will.
Old conversation...I started running in May of 2017. Never ran before that. Faster runs are hard. Most days distance is fine. But I do still have days where every mile is a bear. However, I run for my sanity so I just do it.
I bought one pair each of feetures, balega, darn tough, and smart wool socks to try. Feetures were great. Darn tough were ok. The other two have not been tried out yet.
And sadly my fellow runners, I have tested it out, and it is true. You cannot outrun a bad diet. 🙄7 -
So another day of no pain in my ankle. I can't wait till Saturday, I'm going to take my old shoes for a short gentle 5k tomorrow (Thursday). Am I crazy?6
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rheddmobile wrote: »I'm in week 8 now and still don't enjoy it. But I decided to continue until September when my first 5K is scheduled. Just to finish this chapter. It's super fascinating to see the progress and how far I've come in this few weeks but I still don't like it much. So I will re-evaluate it in September, although I hope that I can manage to continue because I think it's a good thing to do. But there will be a reality check anyway when it's going to be dark and wet in the mornings. I can handle some drizzle but full-blown autumn or even winter... not sure about that yet
I was surprised to find that running in winter was a fun challenge for me. As far as fall is concerned, fall is great for running. Ordinary people say, "Fifty degrees (Fahrenheit) and light rain, bleh," while runners say, "Yay it's perfect running weather!"
We could not manage to run in glare ice, or temps well below zero, but managed everything else.
Summer, on the other hand, I am not into at all.[/quote]
Since I run in the early morning hours, even the very hot days were manageable. I ran once in the evening and almost died. I don't mind lower temperatures, it's more about the motivation to get out when it's still dark and the bed is so comfy Plus I wear glasses and after a while in the rain, it get's very annoying. But I'm committed for another month, let's see how it works out.
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joannedrummond5 wrote: »August 1 - 20 km run
August 2 - 9 km run
August 3 - rest day
August 4 - 16 km Harriers trail run/13 km water girl for football
August 5 - 15 km Harriers trail run
August 6 - 15 km run
August 7 - 14 km run
August 8 - 10 km run
August 9 - 23 km run
August 10 - rest day
August 11 - rest day
August 12 - 10 km club run
August 13 - 23 km run
August 14 - rest day
August 15 - 10 km Hill Repeats
Total distance 178 km - goal 350 km.2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »I learned the hard way, now I always carry bandaid sports bandages for blisters in my run belt. I stop when I feel a problem and put a bandaid on, because even walking back in shoes that aren't working will give me blisters for days.
Good advice. Yeah, I'm not going to be liking life the next few days. Hopefully my runners will hang on a little bit longer until I can replace them.0 -
August 1 – 5 miles
August 4 – 9.2 miles
August 6 – 6.2 miles
August 7 – 8.1 miles
August 10 - 6.1 miles
August 11 – 11 miles (am); 4 miles (pm)
August 13 – 4.47 miles
August 15 – 5 miles
54.1/125 miles
5 miles this morning brings me to 59.1 for the month. I need to get some additional morning/evening runs in to prepare for my upcoming relay.
I love GUs! Especially the chocolate ones! I know – I’m strange. I’m also one of those who can’t eat dairy even several hours before running. I think my body temperature gets so hot that it kind of curdles on my tummy. ☹ Like @shanaber, I also have no appetite until hours after a long run. Usually, the day after is when I’m starving.
@AprilRN10 – I have sock envy! I’ve got the Darn Toughs on my wish list in Amazon. Love Feetures and Smart Wool. I used to run in the Balegas but I got away from them for some reason which I can't recall now.
Anyone ever use Liquid IV? I tried it based on a recommendation of a trail running friend and it is pretty good. It dissolves well in water. I tried the Passion Fruit flavor.
Upcoming Races:
September 1 – Iron Mountain 16-Miler
September 7-8 – Blue Ridge Relay
October 20 – Cherokee Harvest Half Marathon
November 11 – Rock n Roll Vegas Half Marathon
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FueI: I switch from GU to Cliff Blocks because I found Gu to be a sticky mess. So far I have not regretted it. 0
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Been busy with a custody trial, but I have enjoyed reading the eating/introvert/extrovert/church discussions. I eat small, but steady on long runs and long races. I am an anti-social extrovert and my faith and spirituality got stronger and deeper once I ditched church.7
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Ok I get it. Less forced and possibly phony interaction because it isn't needed. I think I can relate. I think because I'm an introvert the ritual helps me overcome my insecurities.PastorVincent wrote: »cburke8909 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »In church we’re supposed to ‘take a minute and greet people around you’ and I hate it. Forced socializing. I prefer being social on my own terms.
Funny thing about that... we do not do that at my church, in part because all the research that I have seen says visitor list it as their number 1 complaint when visiting a new church. I tend to agree with them.
L.p.
Funny for me because I would classify as mostly introvert.(teaching is a very extrovert thing) but as much as I like pastor Vincent I could not attend a church where people didn't shake hands and greet each other. (No judgement here. It just wouldn't work as spiritual for me.)
You miss understand. We are a very friendly church. You are likely to get hugged if you show up (not by me though!). What we do not do, is the fake ‘take a minute and greet people around you’ thing that many churches do. We let any interaction happen naturally and do not order it as part of the service.
8 miles 4X1 mile intervals at speed with minute recovery. Tough workout I'm not sure I was as fast as I should have been. On a very positive note I managed to get a strength workout in this am.
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8/1-2.66mi(2 hours aerial yoga)
8/2- 1.01(1 hour aerial yoga)
8/3- (2 hours of aerial hammock and hoop)
8/4-nope
8/5-nope
8/6-marathon plan starts today. 3mi later
8/7- 3mi unplugged
8/8- rest day-no class tonight. dogs get shots
8/9-(1 hour aerial yoga)
8/10- (2 hours of aerial hammock and hoop)
8/11-0
8/12-nope faire day
8/13-fell asleep
8/14- 3mi
8/15-(2 hours aerial yoga)
ran inside. hurdled over the dogs. so tired.
camping this weekend. looking forward to running out there. i'd rather run in the country all day long
introvert, but extroverted when i'm comfy. but introvert for sure
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All of this introvert /church talk reminds me of this HOT NEWS RELEASE:
Man Only Serving In Church Sound Booth To Avoid Greeting Time
https://babylonbee.com/news/man-serving-sound-booth-avoid-greeting-time/CASTLE ROCK, CO—According to sources close to Bedrock Church sound guy Ryan Wendler, the longtime church volunteer actually doesn’t care about audio engineering in the slightest, but rather serves in the sound booth so he can avoid shaking hands during the church’s mandatory greeting time.
Wendler discovered the perk of the tech ministry by sheer accident several years ago, when he was asked to fill in running slides and discovered he didn’t have to speak to a single person during the church’s usual meet-and greet-session.
“I just kinda browse the internet for three or four minutes while everyone else is pumping hands and exchanging pleasantries,” he said. “I’ve got it made, to be honest. I’m really, really blessed.”
The man confirmed he has no real passion or enthusiasm for checking sound levels on the thirteen different band members at midweek practice and all Sunday morning. He has no God-given, innate desire to click the slide for the appropriate repetition of the chorus during each worship song. He doesn’t even really know what he’s doing most of the time.
“But frankly,” he said Sunday as he peered out of his hiding place in the church’s sound booth, “it’s all worth it. All the hours of practice, learning all the terminology, pretending that I know what I’m doing as I adjust this or that lever or dial, getting blamed for every single thing that goes wrong in the service—all of it is entirely worthwhile, if I don’t have to shake a single hand.”
At publishing time, Wendler had confirmed he also doesn’t have to put anything in the offering plate or turn to his neighbor and say, “JESUS IS AMAZING!” at the worship leader’s every whim.
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Re: church greetings. Last Sunday I had to explain my oldest was shaking with his left hand because he had been shoveling goldfish in his mouth with the right hand so they probably didn't want to shake his right hand...
At least at my church it's pretty a mellow minute. At my old church it used to last 10 minutes...
I didn't run last night because of this:
(It's a cropped screenshot so the resolution probably isn't great.)
Extreme air quality warnings...6 -
polskagirl01 wrote: »cburke8909 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »In church we’re supposed to ‘take a minute and greet people around you’ and I hate it. Forced socializing. I prefer being social on my own terms.
Funny thing about that... we do not do that at my church, in part because all the research that I have seen says visitor list it as their number 1 complaint when visiting a new church. I tend to agree with them.
L.p.
Funny for me because I would classify as mostly introvert.(teaching is a very extrovert thing) but as much as I like pastor Vincent I could not attend a church where people didn't shake hands and greet each other. (No judgement here. It just wouldn't work as spiritual for me.)
For me the "turn around and greet someone" ritual is manufactured. Everyone knows we're only doing it because we have to, and for me it does more to highlight the unfriendliness of a group of people if everyone arrives and makes it to their seats without greeting anyone naturally, and then suddenly puts on a smile and wants to shake my hand on cue from the leader.
At our church its expected to come in, kneel and quite yourself in prayer upon arival. Not chit chat, or catch up on gossip. Some of you may recognize it as a catholic church where we do offer a greeting of " peace be with you" at the appropriate time. There's always time to catch up after service.
I'm introverted. Won't hold hands in church, do not want a hug, do not want eye contact, but I don't mind the opportunity to wish peace for my brothers and sisters. It's a genuine offering that I do wish them peace. I guess that is a different expectation from the greetings of "say howdy to everyone and play nice" prompt that can feel empty.
For a group of introverts, y'all are dang chatty! If you only moved your feet as much as you moved your fingers! Hahaha! I kid of of course!4 -
BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Another introvert here (INTJ on the Meyers Briggs thingy). I love the fact that running is just me and my thoughts.
My worst nightmare is having to go to conferences and do those awful 'ice-breakers' or having to go on team-building exercises with my colleagues. At the last one, I was asked to give a presentation. I showed Susan Cain's 'the power of introverts' TED Talk.
Fellow INTJ although I sometimes fall into INFJ.1 -
polskagirl01 wrote: »cburke8909 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »In church we’re supposed to ‘take a minute and greet people around you’ and I hate it. Forced socializing. I prefer being social on my own terms.
Funny thing about that... we do not do that at my church, in part because all the research that I have seen says visitor list it as their number 1 complaint when visiting a new church. I tend to agree with them.
L.p.
Funny for me because I would classify as mostly introvert.(teaching is a very extrovert thing) but as much as I like pastor Vincent I could not attend a church where people didn't shake hands and greet each other. (No judgement here. It just wouldn't work as spiritual for me.)
For me the "turn around and greet someone" ritual is manufactured. Everyone knows we're only doing it because we have to, and for me it does more to highlight the unfriendliness of a group of people if everyone arrives and makes it to their seats without greeting anyone naturally, and then suddenly puts on a smile and wants to shake my hand on cue from the leader.
At our church its expected to come in, kneel and quite yourself in prayer upon arival. Not chit chat, or catch up on gossip. Some of you may recognize it as a catholic church where we do offer a greeting of " peace be with you" at the appropriate time. There's always time to catch up after service.
I'm introverted. Won't hold hands in church, do not want a hug, do not want eye contact, but I don't mind the opportunity to wish peace for my brothers and sisters. It's a genuine offering that I do wish them peace. I guess that is a different expectation from the greetings of "say howdy to everyone and play nice" prompt that can feel empty.
For a group of introverts, y'all are dang chatty! If you only moved your feet as much as you moved your fingers! Hahaha! I kid of of course!
I prefer to communicate through writing. I like to gather my thoughts and lay them out.2 -
@Teresa502 Tried out the smart wool today. A no go for long runs. They were okish for the 4 miles I did.
August goal: 70 miles
8/1: impromptu rest day (3 miles were planned)
8/2: 3.15 miles (6 miles were planned, but heat was too awful)
8/3: 7 miles (new distance best!, 3 were planned, but kept going)
8/4: planned rest
8/5: 2 miles (planned rest, back on target for the month)
8/6: elliptical and upper body weights
8/7: 8 miles (5.5 planned, but just rolled with the energy, new distance best!)
8/8: 5 miles speedwork and lower body weights
8/9: 4 miles (oh so painful legs!)
8/10: elliptical, back, abs
8/11: 7 miles
8/12: rest
8/13: 9 miles
8/14: 3.5 miles tempo
8/15: 4 miles
52.65 of 70 completed
UPCOMING RACES
August 25th - Camp New Hope 10k
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March - Penguin in the Park 5k
April - Lake Sara Dam 5k
May - Run Through the Jungle 5k
June - French Fried 5k
July - Firecracker 5k5 -
@AprilRN10 I like smartwool in the winter. For summer I'm finding I like the store brand ultra thin socks best.0
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