The Sober Squad- Alcohol Free Living
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Wishing everyone a super,sober Saturday!3
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Another advantage of not drinking: Getting to the Farmers Market right when it opens at 9 and getting the best stuff. We walk the mile to the market on Saturday mornings, and it used to take me a little hangover-recovery time before I could muster up the energy to walk it, so we'd get there around 11. Now I've had breakfast, not just a Diet Coke, and am ready to go first thing in the morning. Win.5
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I dont see any problem with it. Im sure it doesnt make you drunk/buzzed so it cant be the same thing when it is boiled. Like you my friend in AA avoids all foods with alcohol in it even a small ingredient in a dessert. I dont think we need to be that puritanical like you said. I’m sure others would disagree with us.2
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Just wanted to relate a short story since so many of us are so aware of how much better we are feeling. This past winter I came down with a flu or virus bug. The room was spinning my body ached like I was hit with a bat and thrown down the stairs and I was weak to the point standing was a chore. It was a realization that this felt just like the hundreds of hangovers I had suffered thru in my 40 years of drinking. The relief that I wouldn't ever do this to myself again, and intentionally cause this was wonderful beyond words.
There are so many benefits I enjoy being AF and so I want to encourage and support all of you to continue your journey in an AF world
Good point. Just this afternoon, I had a vision of me with a hangover. i shuddered at that memory and feeling. I used to get sicker the next day as the day progressed. And sometimes half way through the hangover day, I would get deathly ill and throw up. Lately when I romanticize about the times I would go out and drink , I also remind myself of all the deathly ill days I spent in bed paying for the night out. Just awful times.5 -
@ donimfp do not worry about the Marsala!! The alcohol cooks out. I am still using wine etc for cooking.
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@MissMay Great to see you here! I'm so glad you found our thread!
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July 1 st 1990. I was sitting in a bar. I put down my beer and dropped my last cigarette in it. Quit both vices that day ... 28 years clean and sober. It took me a thousand tries. I'd be long dead if I hadn't stopped. It's never too late. I did it you can too people don't give up...please.
Inspiring!5 -
One thing I do not miss are the anxiety attacks that happen when I drink. (not during the drinking, when it wore off) This was a fairly recent development in my drinking career and they are most unsettling. I so enjoy reading everyone's experiences here. It really helps. Julie, like you, after a night of drinking, I would feel worse, not better as the day went on. I would wake up pretty OK around 7 am but by 11 I'd be as sick as could be. I was probably still drunk when I woke up thus feeling dreadful by the time it all wore off. Yuck.6
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So glad I found this thread today I am 54 days sober!10
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Shortyskye wrote: »So glad I found this thread today I am 54 days sober!
Welcome to our group ! Today I’m 35 days AF and finally am feeling better about never drinking again. What is working for you?6 -
Hands up for me on getting sicker as the day progressed! I'd often hafta drink a little (or a lot) more alcohol just to get food to stay down,get the dizziness to stop,etc those were NOT the days! So happy to not be feeling like that,cripes what a sad state,ANY crappy sober day is still better than those gross drinkin days2
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SO thankful I have this thread to come to vent! Just discovered one of my former drinking buds got her 2nd impaired charge a couple of days ago. She just got her license back in Mid June 2018 from the previous DUI & was stopped driving with 2 of her grandkids with her. OMG
Someone very close to her told me & swore me to secrecy, so I have nowhere to go with this but here. I was considering posting my pic at one point, but it is for times like this I cannot do that or my anonymity is gone & I really need to be anonymous for this.
My very first thought was STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!!! Then very quickly remembered, THAT could have been ME!!! THAT could be any of US!!......IF we didn't stop it!
This person has also been treated twice for cancer & has recently been re-diagnosed & will be going through another series of treatments. She has become a bitter, negative person!! I haven't been able to reach out to her because she stopped talking to me around the time I stopped drinking. Not going into any of what I assume to be the reason, but I stopped drinking & had to draw a line in the sand & the rest is history...I did try to reach out to her via text when I heard about her recent cancer diagnosis & the text was not returned. SO.....I haven't even really processed this because I just found out....
HOPEFULLY, this will be the wake-up call she needs to get some much needed help, not only for the drinking habit, but for all of the underlying reasons she developed the drinking habit. I really hope that after the dust settles from this, there will be a good outcome for her!!7 -
@lorrainequiche59 I am sorry to hear of your friends problems, especially the health concerns that make it so difficult for anybody to focus on much else. I have been with friends who are fighting health problems and tried to be there for them and they reacted according to how they were feeling. It wasn’t always easy to understand the harsh words they threw at me at first but the realization that I was just a safety valve for them when they were nervous and scared allowed me to stick with them and be supportive.
Right now your friend is pushing you away and all you can do is try to understand and be there if they choose to reach out. At least you are AF during this time, I went thru a situation with a friend while I was still drinking and my emotional control was less than desired.
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@lorrainequiche59 I have a friend who has had 3 DUI's and went to jail for a month on the last one. That was 5 years ago and it basically took all that time to get her life back. Random alcohol tests,absolutely no drinking etc. The judge even told her she could not be in anyplace that sold alcohol after 9 pm. Can you imagine how disruptive that would be to your life? Thankfully she is younger and got her act together but that was a real nightmare for her. She is grateful she never hurt anyone else.3
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Hi from the UK. I dont want to bore you guys with my sob story, but l have been sober now for almost 4 years, been very hard at times. I could blame the drink for the break down of my marriage, but nobody forced the drink down my throat!!! Health has improved, still single, but sober x10
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I had a fitful sleep last night. I was thinking how fortunate I am that I never got caught drinking while driving. I can manage to turn anything around to be about ME!! LOL
I need to be clear about my relationship with this "friend." This was a "drinking buddy." This was not a lengthy relationship & I say was because there is no relationship with this person any longer. I am good friends (long time friend) with the person who confided her current issue to me & there were many times my former "friend," aka drinking buddy, tried to undermine that relationship, which was a huge red flag to me.
I was in the process of developing a friendship with her, but our common bond was wine. Not a good basis for a friendship especially when I was questioning my relationship with alcohol...There was a combination of factors besides my stopping my drinking that led to the demise of any further relationship with this person. As we all know it isn't only the actual act of drinking, but the thinking behind the drinking & the negative, critical spirit that takes over when alcohol becomes the actual "friend." This person, apparently, has a long history of being a downer, allowing jealousy to poison her relationships etc etc. At one point in my life I would have jumped in with both feet to be the hero in her rescue but I'm passing on that one. I am beyond spending way too much energy trying to fix someone else & beginning to spend that energy on fixing myself.
@Kelly2yB I appreciate your kind words. Yes, I'm very thankful I am AF right now cause it's a slippery slope that I was also on, so this is NO judgement of her, it just really has rocked my world for some reason & I'm still in the process of figuring that out.
I absolutely feel some compassion for her, but she made a really stupid choice...bottom line. If I was in her spot I would be feeling that same way about myself. She had a lot of help after her first DUI & the close friend of mine driving her to all her doc appts, treatment appts etc etc & wherever else she needed to go and NOW this same person who bent over backwards to help is reeling from this latest STUPID decision!! Yes, there are some sad issues underlying her drinking, but her behavior is totally selfish!!!! I am feeling some anger here....tired of dealing with selfish, stupid people. So, I choose not to. That's my bottom line.
I truly hope she gets the help she needs, but I'm not holding my breath on that one & i need to take care of myself here. Is that selfish?? I prefer to think of it as self-FULL because if I don't take care of myself, I will be no good to anyone else! I'm not getting involved in anyone else's drama & I'm certainly not interested in being there for her & that is OK!! I will definitely be there for my actual friend who is left to pick up the pieces once again, but still have to set up some boundaries around that too.
@JenT304 this person is same age as me, 59 years old. She was just beginning to get on her feet from the last one & knocked her feet out from under herself. This was HER choice! I do feel bad for this person on a certain level, BUT it has given me pause to reflect on my own past STUPID actions & I think it is helping me to realize how dangerous & poisonous alcohol is aside from the physical aspect...This situation is VERY SOBERING for me. I don't know how else to express it!!4 -
7 days AF and counting! Weekend was challenging, but so happy that I didn't give in!8
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Day 15!!!5
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Day 27. That’s always been my lucky number. I have high hopes for today.
Wishing all a good week.4 -
@lorrainequiche59 You're right in putting yourself first, if we aren't right we are not any use to anyone else. This does highlight how dangerous our drinking could become as we risked our wellbeing as well as others. My mom in situations like this use to say " There but for fortune goes you or I". I did things looking back I cant believe that I did or that I managed to survive. Back over 40 years ago I worked in NJ and lived in the Bronx. It was a Friday night we went out to celebrate the weekend and we drank more than we normally did about 2AM I drove home being "careful" to concentrate and drive slowly. I arrived home and left the car in the middle of the street, turned it off and went upstairs and fell into bed. Hours later the sound of horns blowing and people yelling woke me and I looked out the window to see people trying to get around my car having to squeeze by the sidewalk to get by.
My only thought was how lucky I was I made it home. No thought at that time about never doing it again.
So yes hindsight being 20/20 these situations are very sobering and hopefully some good can come of it.
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Hi Friends, I had an easy weekend- no temptation or urges to drink. It’s day 36, and I think I’m over having the blues where alcohol is concerned. I also accepted I need to find a new social circle. There were two occasions this weekend that I said “no thanks” to the invitation. I dont mind that my friends were at bars , but I don’t feel like going to any. It is kind of boring for me without drinking. I’m sure that will change.
In September, there are two weekends where we are going with other couples to the islands nearby on the lake. That’s all about partying. We’ll be on a boat one weekend. And the other weekend, we will be in a house all together. I am dreading it. Typically, we eat and drink ...and drink ...and drink and then eat. Seriously, you know friends like that. Going away is an excuse to drink together. So, that will be interesting. I think I’ll be going for lots of walks along the trails and try to view it as a retreat.
Other than that.... regarding the DUI comments and stories above. Thank GOD , I never got one. I’d lose my job, be humiliated and have to pay thousands of dollars that I don’t have. AND the worst is that I could have hurt someone. I drove a dozen times when I shouldnt have. All my senses when out the door when intoxicated. I feel sorry for someone who gets a DUI once, but twice or more than that, then it’s just ridiculously stupid. Hope I don’t offend. Add that to the perks of being sober, no chance of DUI’s.
I watched my daily Stop Drinking Expert Craig Beck. He said it takes 14 days of no alcohol to finally feel better. It took me about a month. For those 14 days, your brain is changing and you feel tense, anxious and depressed. That’s so true.
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@RubyRed427 No DUIs perk, perk, perk for being AF!!! I really think reflecting on my own past STUPIDITY is what kept going through my mind last night & waking me up thinking THANK GOD I did not get caught or like you said hurt someone else!! I am just SO thankful I woke up to my drinking problem before I slid to the bottom of the slippery slope!! I LOVE being sober & am really beginning to love my life as a non-drinkier...I was walking the dogs this morn & stopped as they sniff, sniff, sniffed & remember looking around thinking I love my head being CLEAR...no fogginess!! YAY!!
I SO hope we all continue to enjoy our very wise choice to be AF. Julie you are a real inspiration for me & I know you can get through the future temptations coming your way & look forward to hearing your success story You GO girl!!4 -
lorrainequiche59 wrote: »@RubyRed427 No DUIs perk, perk, perk for being AF!!! I really think reflecting on my own past STUPIDITY is what kept going through my mind last night & waking me up thinking THANK GOD I did not get caught or like you said hurt someone else!! I am just SO thankful I woke up to my drinking problem before I slid to the bottom of the slippery slope!! I LOVE being sober & am really beginning to love my life as a non-drinkier...I was walking the dogs this morn & stopped as they sniff, sniff, sniffed & remember looking around thinking I love my head being CLEAR...no fogginess!! YAY!!
I SO hope we all continue to enjoy our very wise choice to be AF. Julie you are a real inspiration for me & I know you can get through the future temptations coming your way & look forward to hearing your success story You GO girl!!
You inspire me as well. I love reading your posts because a lot of it mirrors what I am thinking. I agree with the fogginess. I even thought recently I see colors brighter - I guess that also relates to fogginess. My husband who does drink every night recently said that he has been dropping things lately (tipping over salt shaker things like that. ) It made me think of how alcohol in general suppresses the nervous system and probably affects every cell in our body. But I don’t say anything to him about that. To each his own. Xo2 -
Hi, Everyone!
Tomorrow is Day 28 for me, and I am celebrating that that is technically a month. Yay! Knock on wood, I'm really not missing drinking much at all, and I feel and look so much better. I took a "before" photo yesterday for weight-loss reasons . . . trying to lose the last of the weight. Although the photo definitely shows that I need to lose weight, I was shocked at how nice my face looked--not bloated or puffy or round, but pretty. Yay! Catch up, body!!
On the DUI discussion . . . I shared with the Less Alcohol thread some months ago that it was one of my high school students who drove drunk and killed a group of college kids--all except one in the group who was so badly burned and disfigured that she became a national symbol of the dangers of drinking and driving (Jacqueline Saburido). This kid (the student) had probably never driven drunk in his life before that; he was a real straight arrow. But he went to one party, was driving a massive SUV, and that was that. He spent some years in prison and I know he spent some time afterwards speaking to student groups. Anyway, it just drove home to me how even one episode of this risky behavior can ruin so many lives.
Kate from The Sober School has a nice entry in her Monday blog today--blogging from her Paris vacation and talking about how she is enjoying it so much alcohol free. That has been a concern of mine. I can't even imagine subtracting the vino from the Italian vacation I had in March. We didn't over-drink (no hangovers) but enjoyed a couple of glasses of wine each day. But I don't think I'd risk that again because it would be too easy to come home to my old bad patterns (like I did in March). Her post was encouraging. She also links to a really good article written by the Times of London food critic about the myth that wine is necessary, or even helpful, for appreciating food. I'd link it but I think I'd screw it up. But check out "The Sober School" if you're interested.4 -
@donimfp Yes, I remember that chilling story. So tragic, so life altering in a million ways. My heart breaks for all involved. Just terrible.
Congrats on 28 days. I am happy you are seeing the benefits when you look in the mirror. Can you imagine how happy your liver and pancreas are as well:)
Thanks for the update on Kate’s blog. I’ll check it out now.2 -
I'm so happy to see you all here, sharing your thoughts. I too have had many a morning after, grateful that I didn't have a car accident or worse. STUPID! Now I am so happy to be the designated driver whenever we go out. I'm now trying the Keto diet and though certain types of alcohol are allowed, it will be none for me. Watching Craig Beck and reading the latest news about how NO level of alcohol is safe for you, keeps me determined. I am so looking forward to Autumn walks, watching the leaves changes and feeling energetic and happy.4
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Hi Everyone @donimfp YAY~~28 days, technically a month...@Shortyskye 54+ days, someone at 15 days & another stat I can't remember who, & anyone I may have missed!! It's ALL wonderful. Hoping everyone has a wonderful sober day focusing on any positive changes noticed & celebrating the little sober victories3
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Please, can anyone relate? Why do I find it so incredibly annoying that my mom starts every email with, "Hi Honey, good to hear from you. I hope the drinking thing is going okay..." Honestly, I often FORGET that I'm off the sauce, but it's obvious to me that this is as much (if not more) an issue for other people than for me. (To be fair, my mom has a few other "issues" and pigeon-holing people is part of a thing she's developed. Everything and everyone is very black/white, right/wrong with her.)
On another note, I just asked 2 girlfriends out to see a band tonight. "Oh, no way! It's Tuesday! I can't be hungover tomorrow!!" I said I was planning on not drinking and they just kinda cocked their heads at me... and silence. "Oh right... you're not drinking. And you want to go out?!!?" Well, I don't know, I still like live music.... thought I'd give it a shot. These 2 situations give me a kind of FML feeling.
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say something to your mom. say something to your friends
going out does not equal drinking. actually, in my area, mocktails are becoming a trend.2 -
Please, can anyone relate? Why do I find it so incredibly annoying that my mom starts every email with, "Hi Honey, good to hear from you. I hope the drinking thing is going okay..." Honestly, I often FORGET that I'm off the sauce, but it's obvious to me that this is as much (if not more) an issue for other people than for me. (To be fair, my mom has a few other "issues" and pigeon-holing people is part of a thing she's developed. Everything and everyone is very black/white, right/wrong with her.)
On another note, I just asked 2 girlfriends out to see a band tonight. "Oh, no way! It's Tuesday! I can't be hungover tomorrow!!" I said I was planning on not drinking and they just kinda cocked their heads at me... and silence. "Oh right... you're not drinking. And you want to go out?!!?" Well, I don't know, I still like live music.... thought I'd give it a shot. These 2 situations give me a kind of FML feeling.
It gets better! My mother does the same thing to me sometimes, as do other (mostly) well meaning friends. They'll say, "Will it bother you if I drink?" And I'm all like, "I changed my life for me - you do you." That got exhausting so now I just say, "nope" and carry on. Also a big live music fan here - people scoff that we would go to a show sober. I like music, not screaming over it and drinking my paycheck (a generalization that I know is not true of everyone at a concert but...) We see a lot less shows these days, but the ones we do catch are that much more special. Hope you find some sober show buddies perhaps!2
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