If You Eat Cookies, Cakes, Ice Cream Daily Do You Consider Yourself Dieting?
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lantana411 wrote: »I'm surprised at how many people eat cookies, croissants, ice cream, cake, chips, etc. on a daily or near-daily basis BUT LOG THEIR FOOD! I want to know - is it because they consider themselves dieting or getting ready to diet? Is this why people who diet are considered 'eating cleanly'? What do you do and what do you consider it? If you stay within your calories but drink/snack them away instead of eating meals is it dieting?
Happily, I'm free to eat whatever I want.
And if I want to lose weight ... I simply eat fewer calories than I burn.lantana411 wrote: »But some people seem to eat dessert every day.
Absolutely!! I lost 25 kg eating dessert every day. 12 -
There is a clean eating group on MFP. Perhaps the OP might feel right at home there.7
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lantana411 wrote: »I'm surprised at how many people eat cookies, croissants, ice cream, cake, chips, etc. on a daily or near-daily basis BUT LOG THEIR FOOD! I want to know - is it because they consider themselves dieting or getting ready to diet? Is this why people who diet are considered 'eating cleanly'? What do you do and what do you consider it? If you stay within your calories but drink/snack them away instead of eating meals is it dieting?
@lantana411 diet in the sense is not just one way of eating. In my case I eat in a way that improves my health markers for enhancing longevity odds. If you want to call my WOE a diet it would get labeled Low Carb High Fat and or Keto since most days I keep my carbs down to about 50 grams a day but I only track my weight each morning. After losing 50 pounds the first year on my WOE I have maintained that loss for three year without knowing my calorie count since it is not a factor. I just eat all that I want when I want it.
One can live eating totally 'uncleanly' for some unknown time. One can live eating totally 'cleanly' for some unknown time.
It all boils down to personal goals as to how we eat and log. Find the WOE that works for you and do not give any thought to how the rest of us eat. At least that works well in my case.12 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Yeah, I've done that, too - twice. Once I maintained for six months before I gained it all back, and once my subconscious stood by me for about two years before my weight started climbing again. I noticed that you've been on MFP for four months: how long has your subconscious been successfully monitoring your portion sizes for you?meagan8376 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »If you have to think daily about the foods you eat, count calories, log....you're on a diet
Do you plan to continue to count calories and log after you’ve reached your weight loss goal and transition to maintenance?
No. I don't really want to live my life logging everything I eat...or counting calories.
I've learned how to eat in good portions and stuck with it subconsciously.
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I’ll admit to some forum stalking because this thread has been bugging me all week. OP has had WLS which seems to have contributed to her demonizing of food and then judging others’ choices.19
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I’ll admit to some forum stalking because this thread has been bugging me all week. OP has had WLS which seems to have contributed to her demonizing of food and then judging others’ choices.
Good point ... from what I understand people who have had WLS have some additional restrictions with regard to diet.6 -
Do you know whether those restrictions include sugary/high-fat desserts? If so, that would certainly help my understanding of OP's response to seeing a "Sundae Lunch" in someone's food diary.I’ll admit to some forum stalking because this thread has been bugging me all week. OP has had WLS which seems to have contributed to her demonizing of food and then judging others’ choices.
Good point ... from what I understand people who have had WLS have some additional restrictions with regard to diet.
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Do you know whether those restrictions include sugary/high-fat desserts? If so, that would certainly help my understanding of OP's response to seeing a "Sundae Lunch" in someone's food diary.I’ll admit to some forum stalking because this thread has been bugging me all week. OP has had WLS which seems to have contributed to her demonizing of food and then judging others’ choices.
Good point ... from what I understand people who have had WLS have some additional restrictions with regard to diet.
No idea. I've never looked into WLS ... a cousin did, and I just remember her saying something about small meals and some other restrictions.
But speaking of a "Sundae Lunch" ... I ate half a cheesecake for lunch on my birthday in 2015 (the year I was losing weight) ... and logged it.
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WinoGelato wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »If you have to think daily about the foods you eat, count calories, log....you're on a diet
Do you plan to continue to count calories and log after you’ve reached your weight loss goal and transition to maintenance?
Well I am not Meagan ( obviously!) but my answer is Yes, I have continued to count calories and log them in maitenance
Admittedly in loose aproximate way, I make no claims to doing exact tight logging - but good enough to keep me accountable and on track and therefore my weight stable.
If this means to some people that I am on a diet, so be it.
I wouldn't view it that way myself - but again, back to semantics of meaning of 'diet'
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"In politics, a diet is a formal deliberative assembly. The term is mainly used historically for the Imperial Diet, the general assembly of the Imperial Estates of the Holy Roman Empire, and for the legislative bodies of certain countries. Modern usage mainly relates to the Kokkai of Japan, called "Diet" in English, or the German Bundestag, the Federal Diet."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_(assembly)
My own personal favorite Diet is the Diet of Worms.12 -
lantana411 wrote: »Just want to remind you that I started this to better understand the reason why people log dessert or refined carb/sugar foods - were they trying to lose weight or track intake or what. It wasn't a thinly veiled hateful statement - it was a question to better understand. I didn't pass judgement on others and even stated that while I eat mostly lean protein and produce I'm not adverse to eating desserts, etc. as long as it doesn't start a binge for me. Thanks to those who shared their logic/goals in logging food. And for those who think I'm judgmental I feel for you - not my intention - I hope that whatever is causing you to make that assumption passes.
Do you log those desserts?
It's hard to understand what you are trying to say. Either it's why would people eat 'bad' food or why would they bother logging it. Why wouldn't you log some things and not others!3 -
It seems like OP is either taking a judgemental look at a food diary of someone who has learned to incorporate everyday treats, or is taking a judgemental look at a diary of someone who eats mostly everyday treats and very few to no nutritionally dense foods.
If it's the first, that's a jerk move which people have already gone over with a fine tooth comb. If it's the second, it's a double jerk move. Logging can be one of the fundamental habits in helping you lose weight because it lets you track CICO and it helps you figure out what works and what doesn't. There are people who grew up in household where "junk" food was the norm and there wasn't exposure to a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables. These people grew up to be adults that needed to feed themselves and ate what they knew. Those same people may be on a journey to make a change. What's the best way to make a big, lasting change? With smaller and more manageable habits. Those diaries that OP may be judging are people who are simply getting in the habit of logging there food. Or, they are in the habit of logging and are simply working towards eating less. Either way, it's they're journey and they're choice as to what to eat. If someone wants to eat they're days calories in pizza, that's their choice. If you looked at someone's log and they were eating only beans and rice would you judge then as harshly? It's "healthy" foods. it can be considered eating clean, but it's not nutritionally diverse.
No matter how you slice it, judging other people's food choices is a dick move. Unless you come to someone with genuine concern about their health or they asked for your advice, then you don't get to have a voiced opinion about what they eat.
I'm fitting in a Dunkin Donut's Apple Crisp Donut & a small (wish it could be a large, but can't justify 1,360 calories at least today) for a Dairy Queen Reese's Outrageous Blizzard.8 -
kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »ITUSGirl51 wrote: »My dinner was Cheez ITs and Peanut M&Ms because I’m stuck at work and so hungry for dinner with only a vending machine for options. I still have 218 more calories I can enjoy and be in a deficit. I’m not even hungry for them. No reason to blow off my entire day because I had to eat junk for dinner. I can still lose weight if I account for what I eat.
I pushed a lot of carts yesterday to help when the stockman called off. I burned around 4,400 calories for the whole day & only ate 1,800 calories yesterday. To account for the calories yesterday I ate a whole jar of cookie butter & it fit into my overall maintenance calories!
Big or small jar? BIG....OR....SMALL???? You're my hero either way.
It was about 397 calories (some weight is from the jar I forgot to weight after) so about 2,000 calories of Cookie Butter.
Well I am still going to get the Dairy Queen Blizzard, but average it out over the course of the week (I've found I do well with eating more on a certain day & then just averaging the rest of my calories out during the rest of the week).5 -
kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »It seems like OP is either taking a judgemental look at a food diary of someone who has learned to incorporate everyday treats, or is taking a judgemental look at a diary of someone who eats mostly everyday treats and very few to no nutritionally dense foods.
If it's the first, that's a jerk move which people have already gone over with a fine tooth comb. If it's the second, it's a double jerk move. Logging can be one of the fundamental habits in helping you lose weight because it lets you track CICO and it helps you figure out what works and what doesn't. There are people who grew up in household where "junk" food was the norm and there wasn't exposure to a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables. These people grew up to be adults that needed to feed themselves and ate what they knew. Those same people may be on a journey to make a change. What's the best way to make a big, lasting change? With smaller and more manageable habits. Those diaries that OP may be judging are people who are simply getting in the habit of logging there food. Or, they are in the habit of logging and are simply working towards eating less. Either way, it's they're journey and they're choice as to what to eat. If someone wants to eat they're days calories in pizza, that's their choice. If you looked at someone's log and they were eating only beans and rice would you judge then as harshly? It's "healthy" foods. it can be considered eating clean, but it's not nutritionally diverse.
No matter how you slice it, judging other people's food choices is a dick move. Unless you come to someone with genuine concern about their health or they asked for your advice, then you don't get to have a voiced opinion about what they eat.
I'm fitting in a Dunkin Donut's Apple Crisp Donut & a small (wish it could be a large, but can't justify 1,360 calories at least today) for a Dairy Queen Reese's Outrageous Blizzard.
Hell yeah!! You rock! I usually go for the heath blizzard. Tonight I'm fitting in Thai food. And probably an ice cream cone. Actually, a custard because yummy and I'm under my calories for the week.
And in case anyone wants to judge me, I've lost 30.9 pounds while still fitting in and logging the occasional pizza and Chinese food plus having dessert most nights. Because I want to live my full life.7 -
meagan8376 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »If you have to think daily about the foods you eat, count calories, log....you're on a diet
Do you plan to continue to count calories and log after you’ve reached your weight loss goal and transition to maintenance?
No. I don't really want to live my life logging everything I eat...or counting calories.
I've learned how to eat in good portions and stuck with it subconsciously.
Sure, unfortunately most people are not good at intuitive eating, no matter how well they think they’ve mastered portion control. Others find that continuing to log in maintenance, even for a period of time, enables you to have that numerical confirmation that you won’t exceed your TDEE.
I prefer to use the tools that are available to me which ensure my success. There are lots of things I could do in life on my own - but choosing to rely on the tools and support available doesn’t diminish my experience or detract from my confidence in my results.20 -
WinoGelato wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »meagan8376 wrote: »If you have to think daily about the foods you eat, count calories, log....you're on a diet
Do you plan to continue to count calories and log after you’ve reached your weight loss goal and transition to maintenance?
No. I don't really want to live my life logging everything I eat...or counting calories.
I've learned how to eat in good portions and stuck with it subconsciously.
There are lots of things I could do in life on my own - but choosing to rely on the tools and support available doesn’t diminish my experience or detract from my confidence in my results.
Well said
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kellyjellybellyjelly wrote: »It seems like OP is either taking a judgemental look at a food diary of someone who has learned to incorporate everyday treats, or is taking a judgemental look at a diary of someone who eats mostly everyday treats and very few to no nutritionally dense foods.
If it's the first, that's a jerk move which people have already gone over with a fine tooth comb. If it's the second, it's a double jerk move. Logging can be one of the fundamental habits in helping you lose weight because it lets you track CICO and it helps you figure out what works and what doesn't. There are people who grew up in household where "junk" food was the norm and there wasn't exposure to a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables. These people grew up to be adults that needed to feed themselves and ate what they knew. Those same people may be on a journey to make a change. What's the best way to make a big, lasting change? With smaller and more manageable habits. Those diaries that OP may be judging are people who are simply getting in the habit of logging there food. Or, they are in the habit of logging and are simply working towards eating less. Either way, it's they're journey and they're choice as to what to eat. If someone wants to eat they're days calories in pizza, that's their choice. If you looked at someone's log and they were eating only beans and rice would you judge then as harshly? It's "healthy" foods. it can be considered eating clean, but it's not nutritionally diverse.
No matter how you slice it, judging other people's food choices is a dick move. Unless you come to someone with genuine concern about their health or they asked for your advice, then you don't get to have a voiced opinion about what they eat.
I'm fitting in a Dunkin Donut's Apple Crisp Donut & a small (wish it could be a large, but can't justify 1,360 calories at least today) for a Dairy Queen Reese's Outrageous Blizzard.
Hell yeah!! You rock! I usually go for the heath blizzard. Tonight I'm fitting in Thai food. And probably an ice cream cone. Actually, a custard because yummy and I'm under my calories for the week.
And in case anyone wants to judge me, I've lost 30.9 pounds while still fitting in and logging the occasional pizza and Chinese food plus having dessert most nights. Because I want to live my full life.
Ugh they didn't have anymore of the Apple Crisp Donut, but the Reese's Outrageous Blizzard was amazing! So much peanut buttery goodness.3 -
People eat crap loaded with sugar and feel virtuous because they are in a calorie deficit. Actually what you eat is more important. Protein requires more calories to burn than fat, followed by fat, with carbs a poor third. CICO has been disproved.76
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QuilterInVA wrote: »People eat crap loaded with sugar and feel virtuous because they are in a calorie deficit. Actually what you eat is more important. Protein requires more calories to burn than fat, followed by fat, with carbs a poor third. CICO has been disproved.
No. "Burning" is "O".10
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