How in the world is this 4000 calories

collectingblues wrote: »

PlasticGains wrote: »

My stupid mom finds out I'm on a diet and supposedly brings me a healthy cake fro. Whole foods and says its fruit cake and its 400 calories for the entire cake (its 6 inches) and so I being the naive piece of sht that I am ate almost 3/4 of it and heres the link
https://m.wholefoodsmarket.com/shop/NEW/3202/27925
How in the world is this small a** cake 4000 calories!!??! It wasnt even dense!! It was one of those airy cakes. How!?!?!?

Why are you blaming your mother for your decision to eat 3/4 of a cake?

yes...someone needs to grow up and take responsibility for their own actions. Also, one day you will miss the day when your mom is no longer able or on this earth to actually buy you anything!

Packerjohn wrote: »

aokoye wrote: »

Gisel2015 wrote: »

PlasticGains wrote: »

My stupid mom finds out I'm on a diet and supposedly brings me a healthy cake fro. Whole foods and says its fruit cake and its 400 calories for the entire cake (its 6 inches) and so I being the naive piece of sht that I am ate almost 3/4 of it and heres the link
https://m.wholefoodsmarket.com/shop/NEW/3202/27925
How in the world is this small a** cake 4000 calories!!??! It wasnt even dense!! It was one of those airy cakes. How!?!?!?

I find more troublesome calling YOUR mom "stupid" than you eating 3/4 of the cake.

Edited to change "our" to "your.

Just because someone is your (general "your") parent doesn't somehow make them above reproach.

Didn't see the statement where the mom tied her down and shoved cake in her mouth.

Personal responsibility.

I'll say this again because apparently you felt the need to reply twice to the same post. Saying "you should respect your mother" is different than saying "your mother didn't force you to eat this." To the same effect, saying "a parent isn't automatically a saint" is different than saying, "the OP's parent forced her to eat cake."

I know, how dare I buck the societal trend of mothers being all good (though I suppose it would be more accurate to say, how dare my mother not understand that the responsibility of having and keeping a child is nurturing them appropriately).

aokoye wrote: »

Packerjohn wrote: »

aokoye wrote: »

Gisel2015 wrote: »

PlasticGains wrote: »

My stupid mom finds out I'm on a diet and supposedly brings me a healthy cake fro. Whole foods and says its fruit cake and its 400 calories for the entire cake (its 6 inches) and so I being the naive piece of sht that I am ate almost 3/4 of it and heres the link
https://m.wholefoodsmarket.com/shop/NEW/3202/27925
How in the world is this small a** cake 4000 calories!!??! It wasnt even dense!! It was one of those airy cakes. How!?!?!?

I find more troublesome calling YOUR mom "stupid" than you eating 3/4 of the cake.

Edited to change "our" to "your.

Just because someone is your (general "your") parent doesn't somehow make them above reproach.

Didn't see the statement where the mom tied her down and shoved cake in her mouth.

Personal responsibility.

I'll say this again because apparently you felt the need to reply twice to the same post. Saying "you should respect your mother" is different than saying "your mother didn't force you to eat this." To the same effect, saying "a parent isn't automatically a saint" is different than saying, "the OP's parent forced her to eat cake."

I know, how dare I buck the societal trend of mothers being all good (though I suppose it would be more accurate to say, how dare my mother not understand that the responsibility of having and keeping a child is nurturing them appropriately).

Sorry you feel your mom did you wrong. There nothing in the OP to indicate the mom mistreated the poster in any way.

The discussion is about a grown *kitten* adult calling their mother stupid for telling her the wrong calorie count on something, failing to take responsibility to check for themselves and then eating 3/4 of a cake that to most people that have even looked a the calorie content of foods would know the number the mom gave was incorrect.

I stand by personal responsibility for what one puts in one's mouth.

Packerjohn wrote: »

aokoye wrote: »

Packerjohn wrote: »

aokoye wrote: »

Gisel2015 wrote: »

PlasticGains wrote: »

My stupid mom finds out I'm on a diet and supposedly brings me a healthy cake fro. Whole foods and says its fruit cake and its 400 calories for the entire cake (its 6 inches) and so I being the naive piece of sht that I am ate almost 3/4 of it and heres the link
https://m.wholefoodsmarket.com/shop/NEW/3202/27925
How in the world is this small a** cake 4000 calories!!??! It wasnt even dense!! It was one of those airy cakes. How!?!?!?

I find more troublesome calling YOUR mom "stupid" than you eating 3/4 of the cake.

Edited to change "our" to "your.

Just because someone is your (general "your") parent doesn't somehow make them above reproach.

Didn't see the statement where the mom tied her down and shoved cake in her mouth.

Personal responsibility.

I'll say this again because apparently you felt the need to reply twice to the same post. Saying "you should respect your mother" is different than saying "your mother didn't force you to eat this." To the same effect, saying "a parent isn't automatically a saint" is different than saying, "the OP's parent forced her to eat cake."

I know, how dare I buck the societal trend of mothers being all good (though I suppose it would be more accurate to say, how dare my mother not understand that the responsibility of having and keeping a child is nurturing them appropriately).

Sorry you feel your mom did you wrong. There nothing in the OP to indicate the mom mistreated the poster in any way.

The discussion is about a grown *kitten* adult calling their mother stupid for telling her the wrong calorie count on something, failing to take responsibility to check for themselves and then eating 3/4 of a cake that to most people that have even looked a the calorie content of foods would know the number the mom gave was incorrect.

I stand by personal responsibility for what one puts in one's mouth.

As you can see from my first post especially, I didn't indicate that the OP wasn't responsible for what they ate. Heck I was slightly boggled as to why the OP wouldn't think that the cake wouldn't have been extremely calorie dense (and if you read my first post that should have been pretty clear). In my second post I also didn't imply that the OP's mother somehow forced them to eat cake. All I said was that parents aren't somehow above reproach which was in response to someone saying that they found it more troubling that the OP called their mom stupid. Plenty of other people in the thread said similar things.

Again, the implication in my post(s) wasn't that the OP's mother somehow forced them to eat cake, rather it was addressing the idea that "I find more troublesome calling YOUR mom 'stupid' than you eating 3/4 of the cake." I mean, if it's troubling to call anyone stupid then ok, but it's clear that there are plenty of people here who were honing in on the "mother" part as well. The post that I first responded to wasn't about the OP needing to take responsibility for their actions (it least it wasn't on the face of it), it was about it being bad to speak poorly of one's parents. For what it's worth the post whose post I quoted and replied to then went on to say:

And I don't care if the OP cares about how I feel or not. I just consider it to be very disrespectful to call a mother "stupid" for whatever reason, and specially in a public forum. Good night.

(emphasis mine) - so yeah, that's not about cake and it's not about calories.

aokoye wrote: »

Packerjohn wrote: »

aokoye wrote: »

Packerjohn wrote: »

aokoye wrote: »

Gisel2015 wrote: »

PlasticGains wrote: »

My stupid mom finds out I'm on a diet and supposedly brings me a healthy cake fro. Whole foods and says its fruit cake and its 400 calories for the entire cake (its 6 inches) and so I being the naive piece of sht that I am ate almost 3/4 of it and heres the link
https://m.wholefoodsmarket.com/shop/NEW/3202/27925
How in the world is this small a** cake 4000 calories!!??! It wasnt even dense!! It was one of those airy cakes. How!?!?!?

I find more troublesome calling YOUR mom "stupid" than you eating 3/4 of the cake.

Edited to change "our" to "your.

Just because someone is your (general "your") parent doesn't somehow make them above reproach.

Didn't see the statement where the mom tied her down and shoved cake in her mouth.

Personal responsibility.

I'll say this again because apparently you felt the need to reply twice to the same post. Saying "you should respect your mother" is different than saying "your mother didn't force you to eat this." To the same effect, saying "a parent isn't automatically a saint" is different than saying, "the OP's parent forced her to eat cake."

I know, how dare I buck the societal trend of mothers being all good (though I suppose it would be more accurate to say, how dare my mother not understand that the responsibility of having and keeping a child is nurturing them appropriately).

Sorry you feel your mom did you wrong. There nothing in the OP to indicate the mom mistreated the poster in any way.

The discussion is about a grown *kitten* adult calling their mother stupid for telling her the wrong calorie count on something, failing to take responsibility to check for themselves and then eating 3/4 of a cake that to most people that have even looked a the calorie content of foods would know the number the mom gave was incorrect.

I stand by personal responsibility for what one puts in one's mouth.

As you can see from my first post especially, I didn't indicate that the OP wasn't responsible for what they ate. Heck I was slightly boggled as to why the OP wouldn't think that the cake wouldn't have been extremely calorie dense (and if you read my first post that should have been pretty clear). In my second post I also didn't imply that the OP's mother somehow forced them to eat cake. All I said was that parents aren't somehow above reproach which was in response to someone saying that they found it more troubling that the OP called their mom stupid. Plenty of other people in the thread said similar things.

Again, the implication in my post(s) wasn't that the OP's mother somehow forced them to eat cake, rather it was addressing the idea that "I find more troublesome calling YOUR mom 'stupid' than you eating 3/4 of the cake." I mean, if it's troubling to call anyone stupid then ok, but it's clear that there are plenty of people here who were honing in on the "mother" part as well. The post that I first responded to wasn't about the OP needing to take responsibility for their actions (it least it wasn't on the face of it), it was about it being bad to speak poorly of one's parents. For what it's worth the post whose post I quoted and replied to then went on to say:

And I don't care if the OP cares about how I feel or not. I just consider it to be very disrespectful to call a mother "stupid" for whatever reason, and specially in a public forum. Good night.

(emphasis mine) - so yeah, that's not about cake and it's not about calories.

(edit: and for what it's worth it's not just me who feels that my mother really dropped the ball - my current therapist, previous therapists, and various friends who are mental health care providers do as well)

Demander2015 wrote: »

Average recipe of a sort of "healthy" cake made at home
1.eggs (at least 2 whole and 4 whites) - 143 + 200 = 343
2. at least 100 gms of sugar - 387 calories
3.Most cakes contain around 50-100 gms of butter ( 350-700 calories)
4. half cup milk (depending on whether it is full fat or skimmed or something else - 40-100 calories
5. self-rising flour (at least one cup) - around 600 calories.
6. dry fruits and preserved fruits and other addendum extra.
7. Icing/ Frosting (which is sugar loaded) - another 300 -900 calories (though most healthy cakes would not have icing/frosting)
8. Plus those roses on top (talking about cakes in general) have a lot of corn syrup etc. One flower itself could be 100-200 calories. Even the canned fruit has a lot of sugar syrup in it and canned fruit toppings and fillings can also massively drive up calories.

Rule of thumb no cake slice, pizza slice or burger is ever under 200 calories - never ever.

You replace butter with applesauce. That spares you quite a number of calories. Icing skipped definitely.
Your point is totally valid though.

I just finished baking cheesecake lemon bars... Online recipe says 296 cals per serving. Only... There is no way you can cut that cake in 12 to have a 296 cals serving so we are talking more like 8 servings and 450 calories.

I eat 100 fewer calories than my allowance each week day in order to have dessert on Sundays when we have family meal.

DoubleUbea wrote: »

I feel like I should get NSV credit for not buying a mini Bakewell Tart at the farmers market today (under the evil influence of this thread and the fact that I've never had one).

But I bought a black bean pasty and some brie layered with apricot preserves and almonds instead, kinda negating the V, I guess.

I just have to say, not everyone has a "loving, wonderful" mother. Some are really dysfunctional and not that loving/wonderful. We don't know the OP's mother, so I think for people to say "oh be nice to her, I miss my mom, would give anything to have her back, etc, etc, maybe OP's mother isn't a fantastic mother. Maybe she is, but we don't know their relationship.

No, to me if she is saying that, I think there may be a history of frustration with her mother's behavior. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just seeing it through my filter - I have a very dysfunctional mother that says and does a lot of hurtful things to me and my sisters. She is not our friend, she doesn't want to be our friend, she is controlling and demanding. I have a wheat allergy and she constantly disregards it. She can't or doesn't want to understand that it makes me really sick if I eat something with wheat in it. She takes it personally and is really passive aggressive if I tell her I can't eat something. That's just the tip of the iceberg with her. Not everyone has a great mother.

Mouse_Potato wrote: »

I'm just curious - does it change anyone's perception of the situation if I point out the OP is a guy?

It's a bad look any time a presumed adult comes off sounding like a petulant teenager, regardless of gender.