I'm Disappointed
wilson10102018
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I'm new here and have no prior dieting experience. I picked this app because of my undertaking for calorie counting and limiting daily intake based on a conservative long term weight loss goal. The MFP database is clunky but ok I guess, but the community here does not seem even remotely interested in calorie counting. I see endless discussion of recipes most of which look horrible, and things like suggestions of how to squirt yogurt on a chocolate brownie or use cauliflower instead of bread, etc. All without any actual discussion of calories.
The closest thing I found was a discussion on whether to weigh shrimp tails or the oil the shrimp are cooked in.
Counting calories at the moment of consuming them, or immediately thereafter, is a training discipline to psychologically connect the weighing and counting with the food choice decision and thereafter results in better food choices. Doesn't anyone here care about that? I read for an hour last night and couldn't find a thing. What gives?
The closest thing I found was a discussion on whether to weigh shrimp tails or the oil the shrimp are cooked in.
Counting calories at the moment of consuming them, or immediately thereafter, is a training discipline to psychologically connect the weighing and counting with the food choice decision and thereafter results in better food choices. Doesn't anyone here care about that? I read for an hour last night and couldn't find a thing. What gives?
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Which threads at you reading? I see calorie discussion all over the place.26
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I don't know what your reading but I've gotten a ton of helpful advise and motivation from the forums.
Its all how and where you look at it I guess .13 -
1. If you don’t see a conversation centered on what you specifically want to discuss concerning calorie counting, then you start a thread of your own on that topic, in the appropriate area.
2. I don’t really see how you could read the forums for an hour and not come across people discussing the best ways to count calories and connect it with their food choices. It’s constant. Did you use the search function?
3. If you don’t like discussions of low-calorie recipes (which, if you’ve read the threads, often are the result of people counting calories and discovering that they make their best choices when they substitute some low calories foods for certain high calorie foods), then there’s nothing wrong with scrolling down to a different conversation.15 -
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What, exactly, are you looking for? The calorie content of pretty much anything you could imagine is right there in the database. There are lots of threads about what people are eating for whatever meals or snacks all over the forum (often more than one thread about the same thing). No, people aren't going to break down every individual serving size and calorie count of every little thing; it's for inspiration/ideas. If you want specifics, ask them. Use the search function, it has helped me a lot of times. And ask a question if you have one. There are SO MANY helpful people on here.11
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search - there is a ton of posts on this topic.
"food and Nutrition" is not the only forum in the MFP Community; broaden your travels to include all the forums; even if you don't think you're interested in a paticular topci, there is useful stuff to be read all over the place.
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I've learned a TON of things from this forum - very helpful things that have guided me to a 55lb weight loss! I think this forum is awesome!6
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I generally lurk around General / Food / Fitness and I see nothing BUT calorie counting discussions. If you're in chit chat or getting started or whatever you're gonna see a lot less focused nattering.11
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »I generally lurk around General / Food / Fitness and I see nothing BUT calorie counting discussions. If you're in chit chat or getting started or whatever you're gonna see a lot less focused nattering.
Yup, OP esp try General Health, Fitness and Diet.4 -
Yeah, I’m wondering this as well. How very odd......nutmegoreo wrote: »Which threads at you reading? I see calorie discussion all over the place.
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not sure what threads you are reading.
and i also rarely log at the time i eat. i pre-log my day for planning purposes. i may make modifications as needed when i do eat but generally pre-log daily so i know i will be on track or not. not sure how logging WHEN you eat is more or less helpful.2 -
There are dozens and dozens and dozens of threads, posts, mentions of the importance of calorie counting. What exactly are you looking for?1
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OP, it's very helpful to filter out chit chat and fun & games subforums from the recent discussions. Go to the main forums list page and click the gear icon next to the forums you don't wish to see. Check 'unfollow.' Then go to recent and under 'view' choose 'following.' This helps clean up some of the less pertinent topics if you're browsing by recent.5
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One of the fabulous things about calorie counting is the realization that you can control your intake and therefore weight without sacrificing those things you enjoy about food. Discussing a wonderful new chocolate dessert is not the antithesis of a health diet, it's can easily be part of one. Realizing that is liberating for many who have found a way to enjoy those delectable foods as part of their endeavor to become for fit and healthy overall. It was the key to my success in weight loss and improved body composition.
There are countless threads here on counting accurately and improving macros for health and satiety. There are also numerous ways to go about eating healthy; all regularly discussed and argued about on these forums.7 -
OP, it's very helpful to filter out chit chat and fun & games subforums from the recent discussions. Go to the main forums list page and click the gear icon next to the forums you don't wish to see. Check 'unfollow.' Then go to recent and under 'view' choose 'following.' This helps clean up some of the less pertinent topics if you're browsing by recent.
This. I filter out Recipes too, as it's not something I want to be reminded about. I go in there just when I'm specifically looking for something.
I spent a lot of time trying to learn how the forums and how the food log worked before passing judgment.7 -
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OP, it's very helpful to filter out chit chat and fun & games subforums from the recent discussions. Go to the main forums list page and click the gear icon next to the forums you don't wish to see. Check 'unfollow.' Then go to recent and under 'view' choose 'following.' This helps clean up some of the less pertinent topics if you're browsing by recent.
This. I filter out Recipes too, as it's not something I want to be reminded about. I go in there just when I'm specifically looking for something.
I spent a lot of time trying to learn how the forums and how the food log worked before passing judgment.
I have Introduce Your (shame on me, but I just am not a 'welcome to the forum!' kind of person), Gaining Weight (not applicable
), Recipes (ditto you), and Challenges (they annoy me) filtered out along with Chit Chat and Fun & Games.
I'm sure I blundered around a bit when I first joined 7 years ago, but thankfully nobody seems to hold that against me any more
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Ha we are all confused. I count calories and pay attention to macros. Down 70ish pounds. Not kept, paleo, low carb0
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I am relatively new here (a month) and I generally just lurk on the forums. There are tons and tons of discussions on just about everything. I love the challenges because they help motivate me a month at a time. I also like the food and nutrition topic. It just takes awhile to figure out where everything is....and what you like. You continually learn new things if you keep reading. My weight loss is focused on low carbs and high protein as well as keeping my calories under 1350 calories per day. So far so good.4
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Well, thanks all for the enthusiastic responses. I guess I have to drill down a little further. I really like the process of counting everything and recording it immediately. I am a little bit OC and it fits right in to my habits. I think its going ok but I am only working with a 500 cal deficit below base metabolism (which I have had to adjust downward).
My approach is to just eat the right amount of calories of the foods I want to eat. Of course, peanuts and ice cream are pretty much gone, but I substituted frozen cooked lobster claws and knuckles ($50 for 2 pound bag) for pork chops and that seems to free up a lot of room for popcorn and baked potatoes (my other two favorites).
Anyway, I'll try to get to those counting threads and contribute if i can.
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Try the General Health and Fitness subforum. I think people discuss calorie counting more there.
If you are just starting out you may find these threads helpful or interesting-
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300319/most-helpful-posts-general-diet-and-weight-loss-help-must-reads#latest
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10084670/it-is-unlikely-that-you-will-lose-weight-consistently-i-e-weight-loss-is-not-linear/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10575000/water-weight-gain-stop-panicking#latest
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10569458/why-eating-too-little-calories-is-a-bad-idea/p1
I personally found prelogging my food for the whole day in the morning before eating anything to be helpful for me to make better choices.4 -
You’re not supposed to be eating 500 calories below BMR, you’re supposed to be eating 500 calories below TDEE. Big difference.wilson10102018 wrote: »Well, thanks all for the enthusiastic responses. I guess I have to drill down a little further. I really like the process of counting everything and recording it immediately. I am a little bit OC and it fits right in to my habits. I think its going ok but I am only working with a 500 cal deficit below base metabolism (which I have had to adjust downward).
My approach is to just eat the right amount of calories of the foods I want to eat. Of course, peanuts and ice cream are pretty much gone, but I substituted frozen cooked lobster claws and knuckles ($50 for 2 pound bag) for pork chops and that seems to free up a lot of room for popcorn and baked potatoes (my other two favorites).
Anyway, I'll try to get to those counting threads and contribute if i can.
There actually is quite a bit of discussion about calorie counting and related subjects here. Not sure where you’ve been reading so far that you haven’t seen it.
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Well first of all, what topic in particular are you wanting to discuss or read about? If there isn't a thread already about it, you can start your own. And second of all, if we were only allowed to discuss calories and calorie counting this would be a very inactive forum. There's only so much to say about that. And third of all I read a lot of comments relating to calories actually so I'm not sure what you're talking about anyway. Unless you're only hanging out in the chit chat section.5
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wilson10102018 wrote: »You’re not supposed to be eating 500 calories below BMR, you’re supposed to be eating 500 calories below TDEE. Big difference.
What is TDEE?0 -
CindyJNC1963 wrote: »What is TDEE?
"Total daily energy expenditure," how many calories you use in a day total.4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »CindyJNC1963 wrote: »What is TDEE?
"Total daily energy expenditure," how many calories you use in a day total.
Ahhhh.....thanks.0 -
on my sedentary days, i do not feel starved on 1200 calorie days. i also almost always have ice cream every night.
nonsedentary days i eat about 75% of my exercise calories back or all.
mostly, except hormone induced, i don't feel hungry.
i do not not eat any type of food unless i do not like the taste.
down 20 so far.
now i have to be good about using my scale. i'm very bad at it2
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