How long do you think it took her to look like this?
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claireychn074 wrote: »
Nothing - she has an awesome physique and must work incredibly hard for it. But you asked how “To achieve a body like this”: I was merely pointing out that some of her body comes from surgery or enhancement!
Got you😊. Yeah I’m aware that of all that, I was more so asking about her muscles.0 -
Also that photo is professionally shot, angled, and lit (at least) to make her look like that. I am sure she is in awesome shape, but she doesn't walk around looking quite that ripped.
I wouldn't try to hold yourself up to unrealistic beauty standards. Just try to be the best you that you can be.6 -
Who is this? I've seen much more muscular and ripped women at my gym. This lady with the red hair looks fit but not particularly heavily muscled or strong. She has a good base and is relatively lean but not extraordinarily so.
I think a woman starting out at a fairly "normal" weight and with a normal amount of lean mass could easily accomplish that in two or three years of training.6 -
I consulted Dr. Google. During the red haired phase, she was in WWE, did 2 hours of Oly lifting at the gym (times per week unspecified, but I would guess at least 3 or 4 days) and had to be physically able at all times to lift another human above her head. She is 5'8" and 125 lbs.
https://www.gq.com/story/real-life-diet-eva-marie
Regarding the fella who asked about her cooking and cleaning capabilities, she has staff for that. You may want to look elsewhere if you are not capable of keeping yourself clean and fed.
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Usually best not to compare oneself to others; focus on being yourself, compare your old self to your current self & desired future self (progress pics & goals setting)3
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jasonpoihegatama wrote: »everyone's different. But she looks good wonder if she cooks and cleans to?
Age too right ? So preferably ppl under 35.
I dunno, if Ernestine Shepard started at 56 (she did) and looked like this at 78 (she did), I'm not too sure about that 35 thing. Good excuse - one among many - though.
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jasonpoihegatama wrote: »everyone's different. But she looks good wonder if she cooks and cleans to?
Age too right ? So preferably ppl under 35.
I dunno, if Ernestine Shepard started at 56 (she did) and looked like this at 78 (she did), I'm not too sure about that 35 thing. Good excuse - one among many - though.
She’s my hero! 😍
( I started at 39.)12 -
jasonpoihegatama wrote: »everyone's different. But she looks good wonder if she cooks and cleans to?
Age too right ? So preferably ppl under 35.
I dunno, if Ernestine Shepard started at 56 (she did) and looked like this at 78 (she did), I'm not too sure about that 35 thing. Good excuse - one among many - though.
A friend of mine was lucky enough to meet her last weekend! I was so very jealous.
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danaph3681 wrote: »jasonpoihegatama wrote: »everyone's different. But she looks good wonder if she cooks and cleans to?
Age too right ? So preferably ppl under 35.
I am 45 and a half and as you can see from my avatar there is no limit on at what age you won't see results. I bust my behind in the gym and this has taken over 4 and a half years.
Like everyone said... everyone is different and IMO you get out what you put in!
Yeah i seen 65 year old that are super fit. But a 18 year old may see the results a lot faster. But she has put the work in for sure.3 -
It's really hard to say. She looks pretty fit, she has good muscle base, genetics. I don't know where she started from or where you are starting from.
Generally it can take years of focused training, some bulk/cut cycles to build a good base.
I don't look like that but in order to reach my own personal physique goals (abs, glutes, legs, back, arms) it took me about 4 years, still working on it too. Not complicated but lots of hard work and consistency, yes.
If you are more serious about certain goals I would consider following a program to get better results. Doing random things will be very suboptimal and it will take much longer to get where you need to go ( unless you are very lucky with genetics on your side).
How can you tell that she has good muscle base and genetics?
I’m just asking out of curiosity I hate lifting weights just because you have to be so consistent or else you’ll deflate I don’t see the point, well I see the point it looks awesome if I was lacking else where then I’d take it up to make up for an ugly face or something. I wish It was something I just enjoyed, I’m not into following programs- I don’t like to think so much. I like a simple diet, losing weight without counting calories... just simplicity. Are you on a strict program?
Low key thinking about it though.
From your comments it sounds like you don't want to have a body like your example because you don't want to put in the work. Fine if you don't but to have a body like that one needs to be consistent with diet and exercise.
Doesn't seem like you're at that point now.4 -
Am I being obtuse if I asked why the OP chose that woman instead of one of the women here? It might be my older eyes, but quiksylver296 looks stronger and more muscular and JBanks?? Sorry if I got that name wrong - If that's her in her avatar is absolutely ripped.
And they post here and could answer questions...just thought it odd is all.
LOL wow thanks, I had a crappy day yesterday and log on today and this just made me smile...thank you for that xox I am grateful for your "older eyes"
To the OP - even if genetically gifted, the photo you posted is of a person who certainly did more than some random air squats once every so often while waiting for their food to heat up in the microwave.
I personally have been training in some capacity or another for 10+ years, although I can safely say the first couple/few years were utterly wasted as I had zero idea WTF I was doing and basically all I accomplished was taking up some space in a gym setting. I mean literally zero results whatsoever, but in fairness I think it laid the groundwork in the sense of establishing an enjoyment of the gym environment and developing the work ethic or whatever you want to call it. In the long time span I've been working out, there was a pretty sizeable "time off" too for the birth of my daughter & the aftermath of that ordeal LOL. I have never worked out with an actual personal trainer although I have used programs (both in regards to training & nutrition) written specifically for me when I needed some professional guidance or wanted to "up my game." It doesn't happen overnight and unless you expend some time/energy/effort into learning what you are doing (and why) and then put it into practice on a highly consistent basis, you're not going to get the results you're wanting. You don't just roll out of bed one day and when your feet hit the floor & you look in the mirror, you discover knocking out a few bodyweight reps in the kitchen has gotten you into fitness-model shape. It just doesn't work like that, unfortunately.11 -
@JBanx256 Thank you
You've answered my question and then some. Some moons ago I had a coach, but even after that I still feel like I don't know what I'm doing, but folks here have been awesome with answers, hence the question to the OP. It seems legit questions in every sub-forum here never linger long before someone steps up.1 -
@JBanx256 Thank you
You've answered my question and then some. Some moons ago I had a coach, but even after that I still feel like I don't know what I'm doing, but folks here have been awesome with answers, hence the question to the OP. It seems legit questions in every sub-forum here never linger long before someone steps up.
I dont know if your question was a direct genuine question for me or if you had other motives. Still I don’t see the point to your question or what why matters who I used as an example. I’m sure I would’ve gotten the same answers. Unless I’m not understanding your question?1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »
Yea, she eats. Muscle definition doesn’t come from starvation diets. She’s talked about her training & diet before. She does a mix of stuff. Cross fit, HIIT, yoga. And eats a Paleo style diet. I think she looks great.2 -
Well. A professional fitness model physique is one thing, but I don't think it is that hard to get decent muscle definition. I can relate my experience and people can scoff or not.
I started weight training in 1984. I was 25, 100 lbs and I'm 5'2". I (obviously) wasn't interested in losing weight, just gaining some "tone". I went to the gym 3x weekly. I did 12 different exercises on machines (not free weights) with enough weight to get to muscle failure between 8 to 12 reps. In other words: High weights, low reps, one set, and done. Also I did about 20 minutes on the exercise bike each time and ran 3 miles a couple times a week. I was in and out of the gym in about an hour and a half each time. After about 3 weeks I was putting my makeup on after a workout and holy **** I saw a bicep in the mirror. Never had one of *those* before! I gained 3 lbs in a month (muscle) then suddenly dropped five (fat). I never had a body-builder physique but I had very nice definition in my arms, shoulders, abs, etc. Never had a flat saggy butt either. (Glute exercises will take care of that!) Personally I think I looked great. I maintained around 98 lbs for several years and ate anything I wanted within reason. No special diet-- just decent normal food in moderation (most of the time).
Time went on and life got in the way of my gym routine several times over the years But I always went back to it. And the thing is I have NEVER EVER lost the muscle base. I do not understand what someone said about muscles "deflating". They get smaller but they don't turn into fat or flab and for me they never totally went away. And everything comes back for me within a few weeks of resuming a gym routine. Age and slowing metabolism catch up with a person, plus other circumstances (including neglecting the gym) cause me to gain fat from time to time and I do not think I will ever weigh 98 lbs again (nor do I really care) --- currently I'm 117 and trying to get back to 110. The muscles are there and I even have some definition at this fat %, so I am rather pleased. I'm 59, little, and people are always like "no, let me help you with that!" when I they see me trying to move or lift something heavy and are generally surprised when I don't need help.
A lifetime of strength training is probably the single best thing I have ever done for my health.9 -
@JBanx256 Thank you
You've answered my question and then some. Some moons ago I had a coach, but even after that I still feel like I don't know what I'm doing, but folks here have been awesome with answers, hence the question to the OP. It seems legit questions in every sub-forum here never linger long before someone steps up.
I dont know if your question was a direct genuine question for me or if you had other motives. Still I don’t see the point to your question or what why matters who I used as an example. I’m sure I would’ve gotten the same answers. Unless I’m not understanding your question?
@vanityy99
No motives, and not trying to criticize either. I saw the post as a "How do I get here?". Apologies if I misunderstood your motive for posting the OP.1 -
@JBanx256 Thank you
You've answered my question and then some. Some moons ago I had a coach, but even after that I still feel like I don't know what I'm doing, but folks here have been awesome with answers, hence the question to the OP. It seems legit questions in every sub-forum here never linger long before someone steps up.
I dont know if your question was a direct genuine question for me or if you had other motives. Still I don’t see the point to your question or what why matters who I used as an example. I’m sure I would’ve gotten the same answers. Unless I’m not understanding your question?
@vanityy99
No motives, and not trying to criticize either. I saw the post as a "How do I get here?". Apologies if I misunderstood your motive for posting the OP.
Apologies if I misunderstood something also. I can be a slow poke sometimes 😊1 -
Personally I will never look like that. She's a lot taller than me for one thing, her hips are wider and her torso is longer. You should try to look like the best version of yourself rather than somone else.4
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JeromeBarry1 wrote: »
How can you tell that she has good muscle base and genetics?
I’m just asking out of curiosity I hate lifting weights just because you have to be so consistent or else you’ll deflate I don’t see the point, well I see the point it looks awesome if I was lacking else where then I’d take it up to make up for an ugly face or something. I wish It was something I just enjoyed, I’m not into following programs- I don’t like to think so much. I like a simple diet, losing weight without counting calories... just simplicity. Are you on a strict program?
Low key thinking about it though.
You don't deserve "woo" for admitting that lifting isn't your thing.
i'm pretty sure that isn't what the woo's were for.7 -
@JBanx256 Thank you
You've answered my question and then some. Some moons ago I had a coach, but even after that I still feel like I don't know what I'm doing, but folks here have been awesome with answers, hence the question to the OP. It seems legit questions in every sub-forum here never linger long before someone steps up.
I dont know if your question was a direct genuine question for me or if you had other motives. Still I don’t see the point to your question or what why matters who I used as an example. I’m sure I would’ve gotten the same answers. Unless I’m not understanding your question?
@vanityy99
No motives, and not trying to criticize either. I saw the post as a "How do I get here?". Apologies if I misunderstood your motive for posting the OP.
Apologies if I misunderstood something also. I can be a slow poke sometimes 😊
I am right there with you lol. Best fortune to you whatever goals you pursue 0 -
Well, off the back of this thread and the article about her training regime linked up-thread, I'm going to save that picture as a screensaver on my phone. I'll look at it in the morning before I try putting weights on the Olympic bar for the first time.
So if this thread has achieved nothing else, I'm sure the local chiropractor will appreciate the custom. Talking of which, er, guys? Can someone be ready to call the chiropractor for me at about 9.25am tomorrow?5 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Well, off the back of this thread and the article about her training regime linked up-thread, I'm going to save that picture as a screensaver on my phone. I'll look at it in the morning before I try putting weights on the Olympic bar for the first time.
So if this thread has achieved nothing else, I'm sure the local chiropractor will appreciate the custom. Talking of which, er, guys? Can someone be ready to call the chiropractor for me at about 9.25am tomorrow?
What time zone? 0 -
I'm GMT. Will that be a problem?quiksylver296 wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Well, off the back of this thread and the article about her training regime linked up-thread, I'm going to save that picture as a screensaver on my phone. I'll look at it in the morning before I try putting weights on the Olympic bar for the first time.
So if this thread has achieved nothing else, I'm sure the local chiropractor will appreciate the custom. Talking of which, er, guys? Can someone be ready to call the chiropractor for me at about 9.25am tomorrow?
What time zone?
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »
I'm GMT. Will that be a problem?quiksylver296 wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Well, off the back of this thread and the article about her training regime linked up-thread, I'm going to save that picture as a screensaver on my phone. I'll look at it in the morning before I try putting weights on the Olympic bar for the first time.
So if this thread has achieved nothing else, I'm sure the local chiropractor will appreciate the custom. Talking of which, er, guys? Can someone be ready to call the chiropractor for me at about 9.25am tomorrow?
What time zone?
Yeah, I'll be sleeping. Don't die, ok?4 -
Ok. I’ve read through this thread... I keep coming back to it again and again, but help me out here (ladies specifically).
Someone here posted that Eva Marie (the one in the photo) is 5’8” and weighs 125 pounds. Can any women here confirm that this is is a legitimate weight for someone who is that tall and looks like that?
I know comparison is the thief of joy and I DO NOT want to get down to that weight but...
I am 5’8” and am currently 174. I have the strength to do a few unassisted pull-ups (just to give you an idea of my muscle composition because I don’t know my fat% but could guess if you want me to). My goal weight is 165... and I’ve been between 165 and 170 and have been happy there. The lowest I could ever see myself at is 150 but anything lower than that I’d think I’d look either fitness competition-ready or ill.
Really? 125? Can anyone chime in on this? I am not asking to criticize - that weight seems ridiculously low. And she isn’t super shredded.0 -
a year if you trained in a dedicated way. so here is the thing about working out - you really don't have to have your heart in it for it to work...just go through the motions the results will be the same. but yes...people do like to make A HUGE FIASCO OUT OF IT - pick the weights up and put them down3
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Ok. I’ve read through this thread... I keep coming back to it again and again, but help me out here (ladies specifically).
Someone here posted that Eva Marie (the one in the photo) is 5’8” and weighs 125 pounds. Can any women here confirm that this is is a legitimate weight for someone who is that tall and looks like that?
I know comparison is the thief of joy and I DO NOT want to get down to that weight but...
I am 5’8” and am currently 174. I have the strength to do a few unassisted pull-ups (just to give you an idea of my muscle composition because I don’t know my fat% but could guess if you want me to). My goal weight is 165... and I’ve been between 165 and 170 and have been happy there. The lowest I could ever see myself at is 150 but anything lower than that I’d think I’d look either fitness competition-ready or ill.
Really? 125? Can anyone chime in on this? I am not asking to criticize - that weight seems ridiculously low. And she isn’t super shredded.
I'm 5'9, and that weight is way out of my range as well. Bottom end goal is approximately 155-160 for me.
But I know people are different and it is possible.2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Ok. I’ve read through this thread... I keep coming back to it again and again, but help me out here (ladies specifically).
Someone here posted that Eva Marie (the one in the photo) is 5’8” and weighs 125 pounds. Can any women here confirm that this is is a legitimate weight for someone who is that tall and looks like that?
I know comparison is the thief of joy and I DO NOT want to get down to that weight but...
I am 5’8” and am currently 174. I have the strength to do a few unassisted pull-ups (just to give you an idea of my muscle composition because I don’t know my fat% but could guess if you want me to). My goal weight is 165... and I’ve been between 165 and 170 and have been happy there. The lowest I could ever see myself at is 150 but anything lower than that I’d think I’d look either fitness competition-ready or ill.
Really? 125? Can anyone chime in on this? I am not asking to criticize - that weight seems ridiculously low. And she isn’t super shredded.
I'm 5'9, and that weight is way out of my range as well. Bottom end goal is approximately 155-160 for me.
But I know people are different and it is possible.
Thanks. I’m 44. I think the last time I weighed in the 120s was probably in high school. Or earlier.
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Ok. I’ve read through this thread... I keep coming back to it again and again, but help me out here (ladies specifically).
Someone here posted that Eva Marie (the one in the photo) is 5’8” and weighs 125 pounds. Can any women here confirm that this is is a legitimate weight for someone who is that tall and looks like that?
I know comparison is the thief of joy and I DO NOT want to get down to that weight but...
I am 5’8” and am currently 174. I have the strength to do a few unassisted pull-ups (just to give you an idea of my muscle composition because I don’t know my fat% but could guess if you want me to). My goal weight is 165... and I’ve been between 165 and 170 and have been happy there. The lowest I could ever see myself at is 150 but anything lower than that I’d think I’d look either fitness competition-ready or ill.
Really? 125? Can anyone chime in on this? I am not asking to criticize - that weight seems ridiculously low. And she isn’t super shredded.
It's certainly within the realm of possibility that she is that weight at that height. Her BMI is 19.0 at those stats so still within the healthy range.
Most UFC fighters in the women's flyweight division tend to be between 5' 3" and 5' 6" but Katlyn Chookagian is 5' 9". She is pictured below on the left. The other fighter is Liz Carmouche who is 5' 6" and is, IMHO, one of the most muscled and among the strongest P4P of the women fighters out there.
The thing to keep in mind is that these are professional athletes, the cream of the crop, the 1%. Most people can't and won't compare to them.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »Ok. I’ve read through this thread... I keep coming back to it again and again, but help me out here (ladies specifically).
Someone here posted that Eva Marie (the one in the photo) is 5’8” and weighs 125 pounds. Can any women here confirm that this is is a legitimate weight for someone who is that tall and looks like that?
I know comparison is the thief of joy and I DO NOT want to get down to that weight but...
I am 5’8” and am currently 174. I have the strength to do a few unassisted pull-ups (just to give you an idea of my muscle composition because I don’t know my fat% but could guess if you want me to). My goal weight is 165... and I’ve been between 165 and 170 and have been happy there. The lowest I could ever see myself at is 150 but anything lower than that I’d think I’d look either fitness competition-ready or ill.
Really? 125? Can anyone chime in on this? I am not asking to criticize - that weight seems ridiculously low. And she isn’t super shredded.
I'm 5'9, and that weight is way out of my range as well. Bottom end goal is approximately 155-160 for me.
But I know people are different and it is possible.
Thanks. I’m 44. I think the last time I weighed in the 120s was probably in high school. Or earlier.
Ha! I turn 44 in less than a month.
I know I was in the 140s my junior and senior year of high school. I couldn't tell you when I weighed 125.1
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