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bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
No free will, unless you live a sheltered vanilla life.
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JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
😬 possibly if one lives off the grid 🤣
(Starts digging an underworld)0 -
JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.1 -
bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
This was exactly what I meant.2 -
CoffeeAndContour wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
This was exactly what I meant.
Yea I finally realized that after the fact lol. I misread your response. 🤙🏻1 -
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JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.1 -
Keep_on_cardio wrote: »
I❤️you kid lol1 -
Keep_on_cardio wrote: »
I❤️you kid lol
😆 back at you ❤️0 -
bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.
To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?0 -
bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.
To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?
Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.0 -
bishop_ga03 wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.
To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?
Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.
Again just consequences to your own free will no? - so I guess the extent is left to each of us we have as much or less as we’re willing to pay the quote cost for - is that what you mean0 -
JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.
To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?
Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.
Do you think animals have free will? I define free will as free to choose act and think voluntarily.
That's a tough one. I don't think animals have much rational capacity so I think they mostly act on instinct.1 -
bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.
To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?
Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.
Do you think animals have free will? I define free will as free to choose act and think voluntarily.
That's a tough one. I don't think animals have much rational capacity so I think they mostly act on instinct.
Are we talking all animals?? Or just wild? Cause pets really are subject to their owners will right?0 -
bishop_ga03 wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.
To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?
Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.
Again just consequences to your own free will no? - so I guess the extent is left to each of us we have as much or less as we’re willing to pay the quote cost for - is that what you mean
We're barring any consequences here. We all agree there are consequences. The question is whether or not we can act voluntarily. I'm referring to the act itself. As far as reflexes go, if someone startles you, you'll react in some manner. Chances are, you won't have time to think about and decide how to respond; you just do. I think at that point free will is decreased, if not thrown out the window if only for a moment.1 -
bishop_ga03 wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.
To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?
Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.
Again just consequences to your own free will no? - so I guess the extent is left to each of us we have as much or less as we’re willing to pay the quote cost for - is that what you mean
We're barring any consequences here. We all agree there are consequences. The question is whether or not we can act voluntarily. I'm referring to the act itself. As far as reflexes go, if someone startles you, you'll react in some manner. Chances are, you won't have time to think about and decide how to respond; you just do. I think at that point free will is decreased, if not thrown out the window if only for a moment.
So a fit of rage - or a crime of passion so to speak you would consider reflex and not will? Am I understanding?0 -
bishop_ga03 wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »JustPassingTime wrote: »bishop_ga03 wrote: »Ah I see. I'm not speaking on a spiritual level. I'm talking about here in the natural world.
In that case can i ask you this? Can you go out right now in your OWN backyard and start digging to build a pool without the proper permit? Or can you do anything without our government having their hands on it?
My question is based on psychological opinions. So to answer your questions, in this context, I sould say yes. I could do each of those. I may face consequences, but I can make the decision to act.
There you go its real to you then
Yea it is. To an extent.
To what extent ?? Where does it stop then?
Reflexes for sure. Possibly strong emotional responses.
Again just consequences to your own free will no? - so I guess the extent is left to each of us we have as much or less as we’re willing to pay the quote cost for - is that what you mean
We're barring any consequences here. We all agree there are consequences. The question is whether or not we can act voluntarily. I'm referring to the act itself. As far as reflexes go, if someone startles you, you'll react in some manner. Chances are, you won't have time to think about and decide how to respond; you just do. I think at that point free will is decreased, if not thrown out the window if only for a moment.
So a fit of rage - or a crime of passion so to speak you would consider reflex and not will? Am I understanding?
I think some would argue that is the case. I don't think the legal system sees it that way tho lol. I'm referring more specifically to knee jerk reactions. E.g. being started.1 -
My niece is playing me a bit this vacation, but I am aware & complicit in it to a degree. No harm, no foul.2
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I'm off Thursday and Friday... Trying to figure out why I didn't take the whole damn week1
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