Goals. Ugh

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

JustReadTheInstructions wrote: »

caco_ethes wrote: »

Reckoner67 wrote: »

caco_ethes wrote: »

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

JustReadTheInstructions wrote: »

I think generally humans are trying to forever find a purpose. Setting goals gives every little thing they do every day some kind of purpose. I share your sentiments, @caco_ethes. I don't particularly care to do anything with purpose. Nothing wrong with it though.

But like anything purpose is subjective right - I have no real purpose to get fitter than i already am other than I just want to see if i can - I want to see if I’m disciplined enough- but I’m not sure what purpose it serves in the grand scheme - if I decided not to do this nothing would change good or bad I don’t guess ... hmm good thread caco good thread indeed

See? It’s a rabbit hole! The subjectivity of it is what drives me nuts. I’m an accountant, man. I need things black and white.

I’m curious how this whole concept fits in as well. Are people who readily meet inner and outer expectations more goal driven? See the quiz below

https://quiz.gretchenrubin.com/

I took this quiz and it said

"On the cake spectrum, you are:

Fruitcake. Loaded with calories, a lousy-Christmas-gift meme, and probably capable of killing someone if you're thrown hard enough."

I didn't pay the extra $$ to find out more details--I think I've read enough about myself for the day. Introspection is hard

You are

FOR SURE

a Questioner

I got Rebel but I disagree

Obliger 🤷‍♂️

Me too. Me. Too.
*sigh*

Well my goals vis a vis this forum have been with respect to weight loss, but just might have to add a long term goal is to make a you-tube video about ghosts sipping lemonade. And do ghosts gain weight if they drink lemonade? Can you see the lemonade percolate through ghosts? Do they have to pee and does drinking lemonade prevent UTI's in ghosts? Wow, lots of research opportunities there!

In any case, I have found it useful to have long term goals (ultimate goal weight), medium term goals i.e get to half of my long term goal or the next healthy weight, and short term goals - lose 5 pounds in a month, get out of the obese category (yes success!), be able to lift a certain weight, etc. Basically short term goals help with feeling that you have accomplished something and are achievable and when you do reach them you have something to celebrate, which helps with making it to the medium term goals and then the long term goal. So far just made it past my halfway point, so time to set a new medium term goal!

caco_ethes wrote: »

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

JustReadTheInstructions wrote: »

I think generally humans are trying to forever find a purpose. Setting goals gives every little thing they do every day some kind of purpose. I share your sentiments, @caco_ethes. I don't particularly care to do anything with purpose. Nothing wrong with it though.

But like anything purpose is subjective right - I have no real purpose to get fitter than i already am other than I just want to see if i can - I want to see if I’m disciplined enough- but I’m not sure what purpose it serves in the grand scheme - if I decided not to do this nothing would change good or bad I don’t guess ... hmm good thread caco good thread indeed

See? It’s a rabbit hole! The subjectivity of it is what drives me nuts. I’m an accountant, man. I need things black and white.

I’m curious how this whole concept fits in as well. Are people who readily meet inner and outer expectations more goal driven? See the quiz below

https://quiz.gretchenrubin.com/

@caco_ethes

I took your lil' quiz and then received an email from Gretchen; she called me a *kitten*.


I can't say that I disagree with her.

We just all here trying to get all our chit together man. Thats what goals are for.

But there was talks of ghosts? What about goblins?

caco_ethes wrote: »

Tankiscool wrote: »

We just all here trying to get all our chit together man. Thats what goals are for.

But there was talks of ghosts? What about goblins?

Nobody takes goblins seriously man, they’re like gargoyles. A running joke

But what about ghosts and goblins togethe?

littlebuffbiddy wrote: »

My goals are ever changing. At first I just wanted to lose the baby weight and hit my "pre baby" weight. Then I wanted to be as thin as possible. Then I started lifting heavy and my goals were constantly chasing PRs on deadlifts, bench and squats. Then I felt inspired to do a bodybuilding competition, did one. And now I want to nationally qualify at my next body building competition.

I think goals is just you know, something personal for you that you want to achieve, no matter how big or small. For me personally, I am much more disciplined if I have a goal to aim towards. That's just me.

daizirose wrote: »

I set goals every month. You can have short term goals or long term goals. Examples for your body....

Cardio 3 x per week (Anything you like or something specific)
Strength 2 x per week (Whatever you like)
Drink 8 cups of water per day
Track food
Cut out bad carbs and sugar

Mind....
Meditate 20 mins per day
Read positive affirmations
Take a class, research

Spirit....
Pray everyday
Daily bible reading/devotions

Insert your own interest. It's easier to accomplish things if it's something you like to do. Also make some goals somewhat challenging so that you stepping out of your comfort zone. But not overwhelming. Lose the all or nothing thinking. You can track your goals in a journal like you would track your food. Does it always happen? Nope!!! However setting goals helps you to procrastinate less and do more. hth

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

I’m going to try to do a cut the next 10-12 weeks - just too see if I can - I’ve never set any real goals before - but will be 40 in sept - and my mantra if you will for 2019 was to be fit by 40 - being the procrastinator that I am I didn’t start working out til April and now it’s close to September i figure should probably get serious - so I started today and we’ll see how it goes - if I have abs by September I’ll throw a selfie in the shirts off thread like a mfp’n boss yo

This is great stuff! Not that everyone’s post aren’t great, but these really inspire me. I also think that goals should be attainable but also challenging and ever changing as well.
I have always gotten better results when I had a goal to work toward. I have lost weight and reached an “ideal” weight more than one time but have never been successful in maintaining as long as I have this time. I think that has a lot to do with setting goals and working toward those and also having a fitness community that I can talk to that helps me feel accountable.

yogidani77 wrote: »

littlebuffbiddy wrote: »

My goals are ever changing. At first I just wanted to lose the baby weight and hit my "pre baby" weight. Then I wanted to be as thin as possible. Then I started lifting heavy and my goals were constantly chasing PRs on deadlifts, bench and squats. Then I felt inspired to do a bodybuilding competition, did one. And now I want to nationally qualify at my next body building competition.

I think goals is just you know, something personal for you that you want to achieve, no matter how big or small. For me personally, I am much more disciplined if I have a goal to aim towards. That's just me.

daizirose wrote: »

I set goals every month. You can have short term goals or long term goals. Examples for your body....

Cardio 3 x per week (Anything you like or something specific)
Strength 2 x per week (Whatever you like)
Drink 8 cups of water per day
Track food
Cut out bad carbs and sugar

Mind....
Meditate 20 mins per day
Read positive affirmations
Take a class, research

Spirit....
Pray everyday
Daily bible reading/devotions

Insert your own interest. It's easier to accomplish things if it's something you like to do. Also make some goals somewhat challenging so that you stepping out of your comfort zone. But not overwhelming. Lose the all or nothing thinking. You can track your goals in a journal like you would track your food. Does it always happen? Nope!!! However setting goals helps you to procrastinate less and do more. hth

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

I’m going to try to do a cut the next 10-12 weeks - just too see if I can - I’ve never set any real goals before - but will be 40 in sept - and my mantra if you will for 2019 was to be fit by 40 - being the procrastinator that I am I didn’t start working out til April and now it’s close to September i figure should probably get serious - so I started today and we’ll see how it goes - if I have abs by September I’ll throw a selfie in the shirts off thread like a mfp’n boss yo

This is great stuff! Not that everyone’s post aren’t great, but these really inspire me. I also think that goals should be attainable but also challenging and ever changing as well.
I have always gotten better results when I had a goal to work toward. I have lost weight and reached an “ideal” weight more than one time but have never been successful in maintaining as long as I have this time. I think that has a lot to do with setting goals and working toward those and also having a fitness community that I can talk to that helps me feel accountable.

I used to think the whole friends thing on here was lame - but after hanging out in good ol chit chat a bit - you cats are some cool peeps and really have inspired me to get of my *kitten* this year so - thanks for you and your goals yo 👊

caco_ethes wrote: »

I watch a LOT of motivational youtubers and they all talk about waking up early to work on and journal about and prioritize their goals. The more I hear this, the less it makes sense to me, kinda like saying the name Lois over and over. You know. Like you do.

Anyway, the idea of goals has been on my mind a lot lately. What the heck are my goals supposed to even be? Am I supposed to be trying to set up a side hustle? Should i be dissatisfied with my existence in the absence of any real goals? Just what am I missing out on??
Just curious what your goals are, specifically. I mean really specifically.

I want to feel happy and content, I want to love myself and feel proud of myself

Also.. how did you realize these were your goals? It just naggs at me...daily, forever
It is a Does one just sense their goals? How do i know what i want to want? The word ‘goals’ is infuriatingly abstract for me at this point.

Yep...I have no *kitten* clue...I just want to be "happy", "content", "at peace"...and (sometimes) want to feel like I did good in this world

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

yogidani77 wrote: »

littlebuffbiddy wrote: »

My goals are ever changing. At first I just wanted to lose the baby weight and hit my "pre baby" weight. Then I wanted to be as thin as possible. Then I started lifting heavy and my goals were constantly chasing PRs on deadlifts, bench and squats. Then I felt inspired to do a bodybuilding competition, did one. And now I want to nationally qualify at my next body building competition.

I think goals is just you know, something personal for you that you want to achieve, no matter how big or small. For me personally, I am much more disciplined if I have a goal to aim towards. That's just me.

daizirose wrote: »

I set goals every month. You can have short term goals or long term goals. Examples for your body....

Cardio 3 x per week (Anything you like or something specific)
Strength 2 x per week (Whatever you like)
Drink 8 cups of water per day
Track food
Cut out bad carbs and sugar

Mind....
Meditate 20 mins per day
Read positive affirmations
Take a class, research

Spirit....
Pray everyday
Daily bible reading/devotions

Insert your own interest. It's easier to accomplish things if it's something you like to do. Also make some goals somewhat challenging so that you stepping out of your comfort zone. But not overwhelming. Lose the all or nothing thinking. You can track your goals in a journal like you would track your food. Does it always happen? Nope!!! However setting goals helps you to procrastinate less and do more. hth

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

I’m going to try to do a cut the next 10-12 weeks - just too see if I can - I’ve never set any real goals before - but will be 40 in sept - and my mantra if you will for 2019 was to be fit by 40 - being the procrastinator that I am I didn’t start working out til April and now it’s close to September i figure should probably get serious - so I started today and we’ll see how it goes - if I have abs by September I’ll throw a selfie in the shirts off thread like a mfp’n boss yo

This is great stuff! Not that everyone’s post aren’t great, but these really inspire me. I also think that goals should be attainable but also challenging and ever changing as well.
I have always gotten better results when I had a goal to work toward. I have lost weight and reached an “ideal” weight more than one time but have never been successful in maintaining as long as I have this time. I think that has a lot to do with setting goals and working toward those and also having a fitness community that I can talk to that helps me feel accountable.

I used to think the whole friends thing on here was lame - but after hanging out in good ol chit chat a bit - you cats are some cool peeps and really have inspired me to get of my *kitten* this year so - thanks for you and your goals yo 👊

I got ya fam!!! I’m going to be checking up on your progress towards those goals Mr!!!

yogidani77 wrote: »

bojack5 wrote: »

Setting goals and working towards them makes me happy. I do not enjoy complacency. I do not look down on those that dont mind it.....my happiness comes from being self aware of what makes me tick. I do not feel bound by working towards a goal, i feel energized and alive. I dont like living in gray area, and sometimes we have no choice, but i thoroughly enjoy eliminating as much of it as possible. Goals give me answers, and even when the goals may change mid flight.....its still an answer or insight into what makes me tick.

When you are a busy person goals are almost a must. If you don’t set goals for yourself then things do not get done.
It is good that you can adapt when things don’t necessarily go as planned and rework your goals to accommodate new situations. Some people allow themselves to be thrown off by the unexpected and give up if things don’t go their way. Being able to go with the flow and remain goal oriented is a much better option

777Gemma888 wrote: »

caco_ethes wrote: »

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

JustReadTheInstructions wrote: »

I think generally humans are trying to forever find a purpose. Setting goals gives every little thing they do every day some kind of purpose. I share your sentiments, @caco_ethes. I don't particularly care to do anything with purpose. Nothing wrong with it though.

But like anything purpose is subjective right - I have no real purpose to get fitter than i already am other than I just want to see if i can - I want to see if I’m disciplined enough- but I’m not sure what purpose it serves in the grand scheme - if I decided not to do this nothing would change good or bad I don’t guess ... hmm good thread caco good thread indeed

See? It’s a rabbit hole! The subjectivity of it is what drives me nuts. I’m an accountant, man. I need things black and white.

I’m curious how this whole concept fits in as well. Are people who readily meet inner and outer expectations more goal driven? See the quiz below

https://quiz.gretchenrubin.com/

I am a goal oriented person, although I do favor being well rounded- inculcating the inner and outer expectations.

It is always good to be well rounded. As I said goals are good but you have to be able to deal with sometimes not reaching those goals or having to change them

I am a "failure isn't an option" type of person. I can defer goals for a time for something more pressing, only that by year's end, it's likely completed. Goal setting for me is about attitude and aptitude. Makes zero sense to set unattainable goals. You are likely more forgiving of incomplete things than I am.

Eta:

If I love someone, I have a tendency to be more obligatory. My selfless self will meet the needs, wants, goals & desires above mine, which isn't to say that my own will not be met, it just means I have a full timetable.

If I am coming off like a rebel ... Mostly my culture right now, it is because I loathe fakeisms. I will stand up for those who are under represented, even risking popularity with the "in sets."

If I am coming off as being overtly inquisitive, the target person or group doesn't have my trust.

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

yogidani77 wrote: »

littlebuffbiddy wrote: »

My goals are ever changing. At first I just wanted to lose the baby weight and hit my "pre baby" weight. Then I wanted to be as thin as possible. Then I started lifting heavy and my goals were constantly chasing PRs on deadlifts, bench and squats. Then I felt inspired to do a bodybuilding competition, did one. And now I want to nationally qualify at my next body building competition.

I think goals is just you know, something personal for you that you want to achieve, no matter how big or small. For me personally, I am much more disciplined if I have a goal to aim towards. That's just me.

daizirose wrote: »

I set goals every month. You can have short term goals or long term goals. Examples for your body....

Cardio 3 x per week (Anything you like or something specific)
Strength 2 x per week (Whatever you like)
Drink 8 cups of water per day
Track food
Cut out bad carbs and sugar

Mind....
Meditate 20 mins per day
Read positive affirmations
Take a class, research

Spirit....
Pray everyday
Daily bible reading/devotions

Insert your own interest. It's easier to accomplish things if it's something you like to do. Also make some goals somewhat challenging so that you stepping out of your comfort zone. But not overwhelming. Lose the all or nothing thinking. You can track your goals in a journal like you would track your food. Does it always happen? Nope!!! However setting goals helps you to procrastinate less and do more. hth

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

I’m going to try to do a cut the next 10-12 weeks - just too see if I can - I’ve never set any real goals before - but will be 40 in sept - and my mantra if you will for 2019 was to be fit by 40 - being the procrastinator that I am I didn’t start working out til April and now it’s close to September i figure should probably get serious - so I started today and we’ll see how it goes - if I have abs by September I’ll throw a selfie in the shirts off thread like a mfp’n boss yo

This is great stuff! Not that everyone’s post aren’t great, but these really inspire me. I also think that goals should be attainable but also challenging and ever changing as well.
I have always gotten better results when I had a goal to work toward. I have lost weight and reached an “ideal” weight more than one time but have never been successful in maintaining as long as I have this time. I think that has a lot to do with setting goals and working toward those and also having a fitness community that I can talk to that helps me feel accountable.

I used to think the whole friends thing on here was lame - but after hanging out in good ol chit chat a bit - you cats are some cool peeps and really have inspired me to get of my *kitten* this year so - thanks for you and your goals yo 👊

I have a theory that there are some obliger tendencies behind this

Motorsheen wrote: »

your_future_ex_wife wrote: »

Reckoner67 wrote: »

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

Reckoner67 wrote: »

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

Reckoner67 wrote: »

Cowsfan1 wrote: »

I’m going to try to do a cut the next 10-12 weeks - just too see if I can - I’ve never set any real goals before - but will be 40 in sept - and my mantra if you will for 2019 was to be fit by 40 - being the procrastinator that I am I didn’t start working out til April and now it’s close to September i figure should probably get serious - so I started today and we’ll see how it goes - if I have abs by September I’ll throw a selfie in the shirts off thread like a mfp’n boss yo

What day in September?

5

Dude, we are the same age--to the day

Lol small world man - but fugg 40 bro

It'll be cool, I didn't expect to make it past 36 for some weird reason so it's all been bonus since then

All her life my sister thought she’d die at 37. She’s 39 now. 😊

@your_future_ex_wife

.... so she's living on borrowed time, huh ?

I bet she's fun.

Living gratefully and I guess sort of surprised.

caco_ethes wrote: »

What the heck are my goals supposed to even be? Am I supposed to be trying to set up a side hustle? Should i be dissatisfied with my existence in the absence of any real goals?

What your goals are are very personal. I think overall its people breaking "the person they want to be" down into bite size pieces they can work on.

Should you be dissatisfied? I guess that depends on how you look at the definition of a goal. I think of it as a very wide range of things. They can be as simple as get up and get through the day so I can have fun over the weekend. Or as big as losing 100 lbs, training for a marathon, getting a degree, starting up your dream company. If you consider my first example a "goal" then I think having none at all is a sign of some serious depression, basically lacking the will to live at all. But, if you only consider the big goals as being goals then I don't think a lack of them is really a bad thing. There are stages in life. Maybe you wanted to start a family, and you have. You can't just keep popping kids out forever, you just have to manage the goal you already achieved at some point

After writing that it made me think maybe they are better classified as goals for building/change and goal for maintaining whatever you already achieved, just because something isn't changing doesn't mean it doesn't require alot of effort to maintain, and it's ok to love the maintenance part of life too.