I'm craving a whopper talk me out of it.
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How come no place in the midwest has a Lettice wrapped burger? That would save a good amount of calories wasted on bread. We don't have In and Out's here so that's out of the question.
I live in Chicago (i.e., the midwest) and tons of places will do lettuce-wrapped burgers.
Burgers are also super easy to make.1 -
What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.1
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DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Looks like it's 660 here (US). No clue what the difference is.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Assuming all your logging is accurate (I.e., using a food scale for all your food), your deficit is aggressive for someone with 10 pounds left to lose. 0.5 lb/week is a reasonable pace at this point.
As for the sandwich, get it tomorrow if you still want it tomorrow, and fit it into your calories.
what make's it aggressive? Just because you can't do it doesn't mean I can't. Its a pet peeve of mine here when people comment that other people should take longer to lose weight when they are doing fine themselves. 1500 calories a day for a male is not "TOO" aggressive.
It’s aggressive because with only 10 lbs to lose, losing at a rate of 1 lb/week risks losing lean body mass instead of fat.
It’s aggressive because you are eating the bare minimum calories that are deemed healthy for males.
It’s aggressive because you can’t fit in foods you really want into your plan without worrying about taking up half your calories.
It’s aggressive because as a 5’2 female I can lose weight eating more than that.
It’s your choice obviously but if you want to know why it’s considered aggressive these are a few reasons.
Appreciate the insight. I peeped your diary and lol'd at the calories spent on wine and coffee creamer. Interesting strategy lol but how do you not get hungry?
Hah nice dude. Not that I feel the need to defend my diary, it’s been open for the 6 years I’ve been here, but I will take the opportunity to advertise that my hometown team won the Stanley Cup for the first time ever and so yeah, there’s been a lot of celebrating around here this week. That’s the beauty of eating at a modest deficit, you can fit all sorts of things in your calories, including indulgent holidays, vacations or celebrations, without stressing or needing people to talk you out of eating them or critiquing your choices.
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Not sure how ~100 cals of coffee creamer in 3 cups or a latte seems excessive. It’s all about prioritizing and making things fit .
Nice choice on the Five Guys, it’s far superior to a BK Whopper. Glad you got over your food anxiety and were able to enjoy the meal
Not excessive, just odd to me how many calories are devoted to "liquids" the one thing less filling than carbs to me.
To *you*.
Just because you don't like calories from liquids doesn't mean that other people can't fit them in successfully.6 -
DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Looks like it's 660 here (US). No clue what the difference is.
Cheese. He had cheese in his list of ingredients which brings it up to 740
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DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Looks like it's 660 here (US). No clue what the difference is.
Cheese. He had cheese in his list of ingredients which brings it up to 740
I meant the difference between the basic whopper in the US and the UK, as the calories are different.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Assuming all your logging is accurate (I.e., using a food scale for all your food), your deficit is aggressive for someone with 10 pounds left to lose. 0.5 lb/week is a reasonable pace at this point.
As for the sandwich, get it tomorrow if you still want it tomorrow, and fit it into your calories.
what make's it aggressive? Just because you can't do it doesn't mean I can't. Its a pet peeve of mine here when people comment that other people should take longer to lose weight when they are doing fine themselves. 1500 calories a day for a male is not "TOO" aggressive.
It’s aggressive because with only 10 lbs to lose, losing at a rate of 1 lb/week risks losing lean body mass instead of fat.
It’s aggressive because you are eating the bare minimum calories that are deemed healthy for males.
It’s aggressive because you can’t fit in foods you really want into your plan without worrying about taking up half your calories.
It’s aggressive because as a 5’2 female I can lose weight eating more than that.
It’s your choice obviously but if you want to know why it’s considered aggressive these are a few reasons.
Appreciate the insight. I peeped your diary and lol'd at the calories spent on wine and coffee creamer. Interesting strategy lol but how do you not get hungry?
Hah nice dude. Not that I feel the need to defend my diary, it’s been open for the 6 years I’ve been here, but I will take the opportunity to advertise that my hometown team won the Stanley Cup for the first time ever and so yeah, there’s been a lot of celebrating around here this week. That’s the beauty of eating at a modest deficit, you can fit all sorts of things in your calories, including indulgent holidays, vacations or celebrations, without stressing or needing people to talk you out of eating them or critiquing your choices.
Also...
Not sure how ~100 cals of coffee creamer in 3 cups or a latte seems excessive. It’s all about prioritizing and making things fit .
Nice choice on the Five Guys, it’s far superior to a BK Whopper. Glad you got over your food anxiety and were able to enjoy the meal
Hey! Way to create a hurtful environment for Bruins fans
I believe fans of losing teams eat even more in comfort eating than fans of winning teams eat in celebratory eating.6 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Assuming all your logging is accurate (I.e., using a food scale for all your food), your deficit is aggressive for someone with 10 pounds left to lose. 0.5 lb/week is a reasonable pace at this point.
As for the sandwich, get it tomorrow if you still want it tomorrow, and fit it into your calories.
It’s aggressive because with only 10 lbs to lose, losing at a rate of 1 lb/week risks losing lean body mass instead of fat.
It’s aggressive because as a 5’2 female I can lose weight eating more than that.
Really? Do you exercise a lot? (I don't).
I'm 5'6 and 135 pounds which is a perfect weight for my height, but to lose weight from now I have to eat a maximum of 1300 calories. If I ate 1500 I think (and according to FP) I'd start gaining again.
Re lean body mass, so as I ideally would like to be 125 pounds, if I lost more than .5 lb a week from now that would be bad? Not that that's happening as I seemed to have plateaued for a few weeks at my current weight eating about 1200 a day.1 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Assuming all your logging is accurate (I.e., using a food scale for all your food), your deficit is aggressive for someone with 10 pounds left to lose. 0.5 lb/week is a reasonable pace at this point.
As for the sandwich, get it tomorrow if you still want it tomorrow, and fit it into your calories.
It’s aggressive because with only 10 lbs to lose, losing at a rate of 1 lb/week risks losing lean body mass instead of fat.
It’s aggressive because as a 5’2 female I can lose weight eating more than that.
Really? Do you exercise a lot? (I don't).
I'm 5'6 and 135 pounds which is a perfect weight for my height, but to lose weight from now I have to eat a maximum of 1300 calories. If I ate 1500 I think (and according to FP) I'd start gaining again.
Re lean body mass, so as I ideally would like to be 125 pounds, if I lost more than .5 lb a week from now that would be bad? Not that that's happening as I seemed to have plateaued for a few weeks at my current weight eating about 1200 a day.
I don't exercise a lot, no. Right now I average 10-12k steps/day, even though I have a desk job, which comes from normal activity plus a concentrated effort to meet my step goal. I also do light circuit training 2-3 times/week, and hike some weekends when I'm able to fit it in. At my most active, when I was at the end of weight loss and first in maintenance, I was averaging 15K steps/day and therefore was able to comfortably lose eating around 1700-1900 cals/day. Overall though, I made a concentrated effort to raise my NEAT as I was losing weight so that I ate more at a lower weight than I did before I made up my mind to lose weight, I was just more active in general.
It's generally recommended that with less than 20 lbs to lose, that a person aim for a 250 cal deficit. If you are really sedentary, and that close to goal, it's possible you can't lose more than that anyway without going below the minimum calories for women (1200) but it's likely that you are more active than that.
Usually when someone feels like they've hit a plateau, the first question is "how accurate is your logging?" Are you using a food scale? If not, it's possible (even likely) that you're eating more than you think.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Assuming all your logging is accurate (I.e., using a food scale for all your food), your deficit is aggressive for someone with 10 pounds left to lose. 0.5 lb/week is a reasonable pace at this point.
As for the sandwich, get it tomorrow if you still want it tomorrow, and fit it into your calories.
what make's it aggressive? Just because you can't do it doesn't mean I can't. Its a pet peeve of mine here when people comment that other people should take longer to lose weight when they are doing fine themselves. 1500 calories a day for a male is not "TOO" aggressive.
It’s aggressive because with only 10 lbs to lose, losing at a rate of 1 lb/week risks losing lean body mass instead of fat.
It’s aggressive because you are eating the bare minimum calories that are deemed healthy for males.
It’s aggressive because you can’t fit in foods you really want into your plan without worrying about taking up half your calories.
It’s aggressive because as a 5’2 female I can lose weight eating more than that.
It’s your choice obviously but if you want to know why it’s considered aggressive these are a few reasons.
Appreciate the insight. I peeped your diary and lol'd at the calories spent on wine and coffee creamer. Interesting strategy lol but how do you not get hungry?
Hah nice dude. Not that I feel the need to defend my diary, it’s been open for the 6 years I’ve been here, but I will take the opportunity to advertise that my hometown team won the Stanley Cup for the first time ever and so yeah, there’s been a lot of celebrating around here this week. That’s the beauty of eating at a modest deficit, you can fit all sorts of things in your calories, including indulgent holidays, vacations or celebrations, without stressing or needing people to talk you out of eating them or critiquing your choices.
Also...
Not sure how ~100 cals of coffee creamer in 3 cups or a latte seems excessive. It’s all about prioritizing and making things fit .
Nice choice on the Five Guys, it’s far superior to a BK Whopper. Glad you got over your food anxiety and were able to enjoy the meal
Not excessive, just odd to me how many calories are devoted to "liquids" the one thing less filling than carbs to me.
I would imagine that because she's not trying to white-knuckle the lowest calorie goal MFP will allow her to set, she doesn't have to worry about getting maximum satiation from every last calorie.
Also, different people find different things satiating, and there are different facets to satiation -- physical (full stomach, sustainable blood sugar, sufficient energy to do whatever it is one does) and mental/emotional/psychological (feelings of deprivation that are unrelated to actually being physically hungry).6 -
How come no place in the midwest has a Lettice wrapped burger? That would save a good amount of calories wasted on bread. We don't have In and Out's here so that's out of the question.
I live in Chicago (i.e., the midwest) and tons of places will do lettuce-wrapped burgers.
Burgers are also super easy to make.
Start name dropping please. In the western suburbs0 -
Portion Control. If you know a whole whopper is 800 calories. get a smaller burger or eat half of it.1
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So, 740kcals for a whopper, coming with a lot of mayo, carbs, salt, sugar, all the stuff your inner child craves. Hmmm...
My solution when I want ground beef is to buy some really good grass fed 85% lean ground beef, season with garlic powder, Italian seasoning, black pepper and a little salt, grill to taste (medium rare for me), eat with a fantastic salad and baked seasoned sweet potato wedges. The ground beef has about 60kcals per oz. Most often, I can have at least 6oz., still keeping the meal under 600kcals. I find it really hits the spot!
F Burger King and its cheap-assed food!
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The idea of smaller portion of your craving is an interesting one.
While simple and easy for many, as a volume eater PORTION is usually PART of my craving. to me the bite is like eating alternatives trying to satiate the craving - it doesn't work. Having 1/2cup of my favorite high calorie ice cream aint gonna cut it on any level. Nor will "one bite" of a high calorie dessert. And sure, much of that is probably mental but it still won't satiate the craving if I try to eat too small a portion.
Which doesn't mean i need to eat the ENTIRE pint/10,000 calories of the item - just find a middle ground of "enough" to satiate but not go crazy overboard.
But I also realize for many others the "one bite" "half a burger" "small part of the food" works. And it may for small tiny craving i get but not for full on real craving. 3 -
Say to you're self I will have it later and when later comes say again later until you don't think about it .
Trick your brain .0 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »
I would imagine that because she's not trying to white-knuckle the lowest calorie goal MFP will allow her to set, she doesn't have to worry about getting maximum satiation from every last calorie.
Also, different people find different things satiating, and there are different facets to satiation -- physical (full stomach, sustainable blood sugar, sufficient energy to do whatever it is one does) and mental/emotional/psychological (feelings of deprivation that are unrelated to actually being physically hungry).
That is the crux of the war with myself in losing weight - I often hit physical satiety long before I ever get to mental satiety, and it can be embarrassing just how much food it takes beyond physical satiety to get to mental satiety - and how quickly my mind will start craving food again right after eating that sort of volume!
But that's all in general eating and not particular to a food craving. For cravings, I am one of those people who can satisfy such with a smaller portion or a near substitution, as long as the entire thing isn't there to continually taunt me. So if I'm craving a donut, I can talk myself into a glazed ring instead of a custard filled one and be happy, and if I can find someone to share that donut, half of it will satisfy me. But if the other half continues to be available, I'll fixate on it until I find myself caving in and eating it. This is why I can't keep chips or cookies or anything like that in large, regular packages - I can't limit myself to a single portion if the whole thing is available, or I must partition the whole thing out into individual servings as soon as it gets home; otherwise, I'll find myself continually going back for more until I've had too much in one sitting.
On the topic of lettuce wrapped sandwiches: I think most fast food restaurants will substitute lettuce as requested - it's not necessarily shown as an option on the menu board, but it is available. I do this at Wendy's all the time.2 -
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DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.3 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.
Do the customizers indicate portion sizes for the ingredients? My first suspicion would be that the UK recipe for a whopper just has a lot less mayo on it, which would be easy to do, b/c in the US it's a big gloppy mess of mayo dumped on there.1 -
I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]2
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DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Looks like it's 660 here (US). No clue what the difference is.
Cheese. He had cheese in his list of ingredients which brings it up to 740
I meant the difference between the basic whopper in the US and the UK, as the calories are different.
Oh interesting! I just assumed BK was standardized wherever it was located. 1 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.
Do the customizers indicate portion sizes for the ingredients? My first suspicion would be that the UK recipe for a whopper just has a lot less mayo on it, which would be easy to do, b/c in the US it's a big gloppy mess of mayo dumped on there.
I really wish they didn't gloop mayo on everything here! I usually wind up removing the bun, wiping as much off as I can with a napkin, and still have plenty left.1 -
floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
Spoiler Alert - OP ordered the whopper, ate two bites, threw it away, went to Five Guys , ordered and ate something that likely had significantly more calories.
So much ado over nothing it seems....11 -
WinoGelato wrote: »floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
Spoiler Alert - OP ordered the whopper, ate two bites, threw it away, went to Five Guys , ordered and ate something that likely had significantly more calories.
So much ado over nothing it seems....
At least Five Guys actually tastes good
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DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Looks like it's 660 here (US). No clue what the difference is.
Cheese. He had cheese in his list of ingredients which brings it up to 740
I meant the difference between the basic whopper in the US and the UK, as the calories are different.
Oh interesting! I just assumed BK was standardized wherever it was located.
Variations from country to country is very normal. As a Canadian who travels to the US frequently and likes fast food, I find the change in taste from Canadian fast food to US is noticeable.
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fresh 1/4 pound burger cooked in my air fryer on a fresh roll....beats MCD and BK any day.1
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WinoGelato wrote: »floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
Spoiler Alert - OP ordered the whopper, ate two bites, threw it away, went to Five Guys , ordered and ate something that likely had significantly more calories.
So much ado over nothing it seems....
Oh. Well. Ok.
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WinoGelato wrote: »floofyschmoofer wrote: »I'm sure someone has said it already, but sleep on it. If you still can't live without it tomorrow, work it in. Maybe get in an extra workout as a balance. Or make a burger at home, and you'll know exact calories and where they're coming from and how to balance your day around it. Plus, if you're a control freak like me, the power is in your hands that way. [maniacal laughter]
Spoiler Alert - OP ordered the whopper, ate two bites, threw it away, went to Five Guys , ordered and ate something that likely had significantly more calories.
So much ado over nothing it seems....
Yes I was a bit confused about that bit as I have been following the dilemma.0 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »DrusiliaDD wrote: »What are they putting in a whopper in the US to make it that many calories. I'm in the UK and a whopper is 540 calories, and it's 280 for a medium fries so you can have a whole meal for 820 calories.
Using the customizer on the American and UK BK sites, the UK's Mayonnaise is magically low in fat - just two grams for adding or taking it off. For the US, it takes 18g's off when subtracting mayo. The beef patty is about 2g's of fat more in the US version.
Do the customizers indicate portion sizes for the ingredients? My first suspicion would be that the UK recipe for a whopper just has a lot less mayo on it, which would be easy to do, b/c in the US it's a big gloppy mess of mayo dumped on there.
I really wish they didn't gloop mayo on everything here! I usually wind up removing the bun, wiping as much off as I can with a napkin, and still have plenty left.
The mayo is why I never liked Whoppers. Mayo does not belong on burgers, ugh.1
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