McDonald's

People should get a chance to work in a kitchen. Especially a fast food one. Very few home cooks have a fraction of the cleanliness of a McD kitchen. Usually it is not possible because the typical kitchen lacks floor drains, high temperature dishwashers, disposables, and stainless steel counters. Appliances are not elevated and cabinetry meets the floor surfaces.
If you go to a neighbors for dinner or god forbid a pot luck some place, or a church open house, you are probably 1000 times more likely to encounter some pernicious organisms.

And, anyone who thinks FF uses poor ingredients, they don't, and a cursory review of diaries on this site will show what a garbage diet really looks like.

Having said the above, please note that I have eaten fast food less than once a month for the last 25 years. I just like to cook.

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

wilson10102018 wrote: »

People should get a chance to work in a kitchen. Especially a fast food one. Very few home cooks have a fraction of the cleanliness of a McD kitchen. Usually it is not possible because the typical kitchen lacks floor drains, high temperature dishwashers, disposables, and stainless steel counters. Appliances are not elevated and cabinetry meets the floor surfaces.
If you go to a neighbors for dinner or god forbid a pot luck some place, or a church open house, you are probably 1000 times more likely to encounter some pernicious organisms.

Exactly this.... 100% this!

The kitchen may be clean, but not always the employees. It's still garbage food.

Cool story bro.

Hannahwalksfar wrote: »

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

Hannahwalksfar wrote: »

I don’t think I had food poisoning. I think I had just not eaten anything but complete whole foods for so long that my system just spun out

That was food poisoning. It happens.

Where did you get your medical degree?

The internet... isn't that where everyone gets theirs? 🤷🏼‍♀️

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Hannahwalksfar wrote: »

I attempted to have a grilled chicken burger no sauce, bacon or cheese and was still violently ill 30 mins after. Shane because I loved the taste haha

yet another reason to stay away from fast food. hope you are feeling better.

Because you can only get food poisoning from fast food... 🙄🤔🤦🏼‍♀️ :noway:

I never said that...but by all means eat at your own risk. I know some people are so mad when anyone says anything negative about fast food on these boards. It's amazing! Do you all work in the industry? HAHA! It's garbage food and killing a lot of people and almost killed me because of my addiction to it.

There is a big difference between recognizing you have a problem and assuming everyone else does, or acting irrationally because of a bad personal experience and fearmongering. There is also a difference between understanding the source of disagreement (which has little to do with fast food, by the way) and conspiracy theories.

Fast food is not uniquely dangerous or is somehow dirtier than other food. You just had a bad experience and it's unappealing to you, which is fine. It's also not uniquely addictive, you just had issues moderating it, and choosing to stop eating it is perfectly okay if it solved your overeating problem. It's just convenient and we're creatures of habit. I don't have the habit of fast food, so it has no "addictive" effects on me, it's just something I eat occasionally when I feel like it.

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

amusedmonkey wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Hannahwalksfar wrote: »

I attempted to have a grilled chicken burger no sauce, bacon or cheese and was still violently ill 30 mins after. Shane because I loved the taste haha

yet another reason to stay away from fast food. hope you are feeling better.

Because you can only get food poisoning from fast food... 🙄🤔🤦🏼‍♀️ :noway:

I never said that...but by all means eat at your own risk. I know some people are so mad when anyone says anything negative about fast food on these boards. It's amazing! Do you all work in the industry? HAHA! It's garbage food and killing a lot of people and almost killed me because of my addiction to it.

There is a big difference between recognizing you have a problem and assuming everyone else does, or acting irrationally because of a bad personal experience and fearmongering. There is also a difference between understanding the source of disagreement (which has little to do with fast food, by the way) and conspiracy theories.

Fast food is not uniquely dangerous or is somehow dirtier than other food. You just had a bad experience and it's not unappealing to you, which is fine. It's also not uniquely addictive, you just had issues moderating it, and choosing to stop eating it is perfectly okay if it solved all your overeating problem. It's just convenient and we're creatures of habit. I don't have the habit of fast food, so it has no "addictive" effects on me, it's just something I eat occasionally when I feel like it.

all well and good but since the 1970's obesity rates have soared like never before, with over 60 % of all Americans being obese now. What is the one thing that changed? The rise of "convenient" fast food establishments. This isn't fear mongering, it's an epidemic.

83.6% of stats are made up on the spot.

ok, whatever you say. Go have your double whopper.

If the poster did go have a double whopper (which would be pretty difficult to do at McDonald's), there's a decent chance it'd have less calories than a salad at a sit down restaurant. A Big Mac (540 calories) almost certainly would have less. Despite all of its deridement, the actual quantity of food you receive at a fast food restaurant is somewhat limited, and as such, so are its calories. Its very easy to put together a meal at McDonald's under 1000 calories, even if you have the dreaded fries. That certainly doesn't mean it's calorie friendly, but compare that to a sit down restaurant, where most main courses are over 1000 cal, and some can even reach 2000 cals. That's before you add appetizers, free bread, unlimited refill soda, etc. There is a high probability you will eat more calories at a sit down restaurant, especially a high end one, than you would at a fast food restaurant.

But they're not as easy to stigmatize.

nighthawk584 wrote: »

amusedmonkey wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Hannahwalksfar wrote: »

I attempted to have a grilled chicken burger no sauce, bacon or cheese and was still violently ill 30 mins after. Shane because I loved the taste haha

yet another reason to stay away from fast food. hope you are feeling better.

Because you can only get food poisoning from fast food... 🙄🤔🤦🏼‍♀️ :noway:

I never said that...but by all means eat at your own risk. I know some people are so mad when anyone says anything negative about fast food on these boards. It's amazing! Do you all work in the industry? HAHA! It's garbage food and killing a lot of people and almost killed me because of my addiction to it.

There is a big difference between recognizing you have a problem and assuming everyone else does, or acting irrationally because of a bad personal experience and fearmongering. There is also a difference between understanding the source of disagreement (which has little to do with fast food, by the way) and conspiracy theories.

Fast food is not uniquely dangerous or is somehow dirtier than other food. You just had a bad experience and it's not unappealing to you, which is fine. It's also not uniquely addictive, you just had issues moderating it, and choosing to stop eating it is perfectly okay if it solved all your overeating problem. It's just convenient and we're creatures of habit. I don't have the habit of fast food, so it has no "addictive" effects on me, it's just something I eat occasionally when I feel like it.

all well and good but since the 1970's obesity rates have soared like never before, with over 60 % of all Americans being obese to morbidly obese now. What is the one thing that changed? The rise of "convenient" fast food establishments. This isn't fear mongering, it's an epidemic.

An epidemic of obesity, yes - but No that isn't the one thing that has changed. Many other factors like rise in availability of all food, sedentary lifestyles.

I eat fast food about once a week. Not usually McDonald's - not because there is anything wrong with it but because their mainstay is burgers and I just don't like burgers much

nighthawk584 wrote: »

amusedmonkey wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Hannahwalksfar wrote: »

I attempted to have a grilled chicken burger no sauce, bacon or cheese and was still violently ill 30 mins after. Shane because I loved the taste haha

yet another reason to stay away from fast food. hope you are feeling better.

Because you can only get food poisoning from fast food... 🙄🤔🤦🏼‍♀️ :noway:

I never said that...but by all means eat at your own risk. I know some people are so mad when anyone says anything negative about fast food on these boards. It's amazing! Do you all work in the industry? HAHA! It's garbage food and killing a lot of people and almost killed me because of my addiction to it.

There is a big difference between recognizing you have a problem and assuming everyone else does, or acting irrationally because of a bad personal experience and fearmongering. There is also a difference between understanding the source of disagreement (which has little to do with fast food, by the way) and conspiracy theories.

Fast food is not uniquely dangerous or is somehow dirtier than other food. You just had a bad experience and it's not unappealing to you, which is fine. It's also not uniquely addictive, you just had issues moderating it, and choosing to stop eating it is perfectly okay if it solved all your overeating problem. It's just convenient and we're creatures of habit. I don't have the habit of fast food, so it has no "addictive" effects on me, it's just something I eat occasionally when I feel like it.

all well and good but since the 1970's obesity rates have soared like never before, with over 60 % of all Americans being obese to morbidly obese now. What is the one thing that changed? The rise of "convenient" fast food establishments. This isn't fear mongering, it's an epidemic.

That's hilarious!

You may or may not be fear-mongering, but whatever it is, you're using an inaccurate understanding of history to support it.

I was already an adult in the 1970s, and paying attention.

nighthawk584 wrote: »

amusedmonkey wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Chef_Barbell wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

Hannahwalksfar wrote: »

I attempted to have a grilled chicken burger no sauce, bacon or cheese and was still violently ill 30 mins after. Shane because I loved the taste haha

yet another reason to stay away from fast food. hope you are feeling better.

Because you can only get food poisoning from fast food... 🙄🤔🤦🏼‍♀️ :noway:

I never said that...but by all means eat at your own risk. I know some people are so mad when anyone says anything negative about fast food on these boards. It's amazing! Do you all work in the industry? HAHA! It's garbage food and killing a lot of people and almost killed me because of my addiction to it.

There is a big difference between recognizing you have a problem and assuming everyone else does, or acting irrationally because of a bad personal experience and fearmongering. There is also a difference between understanding the source of disagreement (which has little to do with fast food, by the way) and conspiracy theories.

Fast food is not uniquely dangerous or is somehow dirtier than other food. You just had a bad experience and it's not unappealing to you, which is fine. It's also not uniquely addictive, you just had issues moderating it, and choosing to stop eating it is perfectly okay if it solved all your overeating problem. It's just convenient and we're creatures of habit. I don't have the habit of fast food, so it has no "addictive" effects on me, it's just something I eat occasionally when I feel like it.

all well and good but since the 1970's obesity rates have soared like never before, with over 60 % of all Americans being obese to morbidly obese now. What is the one thing that changed? The rise of "convenient" fast food establishments. This isn't fear mongering, it's an epidemic.

That is not even close to the only thing that has changed about the nation's food supply and activity level since the 70s. If you want to champion the need to give up fast food, at least don't make stuff up that's so obviously not true.

The obesity epidemic is very real. Most of the all powerful bogey men that are set up as the one true reason though are are just easy emotional targets.

Eating at fast food restaurants on a regular basis while allowing your cravings to make your choices can certainly be one of the causes of an individuals obesity.

Eating at fast food restaurants occasionally (and for some people, even regularly) while making mindful, informed choices can fit quite easily into a healthy diet.

The food at Wendy's is the same food as at the supermarket. It being cooked somewhere else and wrapped in paper doesn't make it crap or give it magical evil powers to make you fat. If an individual isn't capable of making smart choices at fast food places, then yeah they should probably avoid them. But just because one person can't doesn't mean no one can.