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  • summery79
    summery79 Posts: 116 Member
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    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Beds need much more grooming, but the perennial/Winter-hardy herbs are starting to sprout a bit. The . . . um . . . enthusiastically spreading oregano is reaching the point where I could even snip a bit, even though it's tiny. (There's also about a 6" sprout of lovage up in the upper right corner. The star-shaped foliage is an ornametal Allium - same genus as onion, garlic, shallots, and chives, but not culinary.)

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    The mint is just barely coming up, in its mint-jail (isolated from other planting areas, in a discourage-it amount of shade . . . mint = invader).

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    BTW, the mint's solitary confinement is a home-made hypertufa trough. As a size gauge, that one was molded with a plastic dishpan. I've made other shapes, and most have been pretty Winter-tolerant. I like 'em.

    I whacked back the Winter-beaten sage plant a week or so ago, so it's not doing much, and the culinary thyme looks very dispirited still. (Some of the ornamental thyme growing in crevices of the paver walkway is looking pretty good, but it's not a very tasty variety.) These grow in a bed a couple of feet wide and quite long, that's behind my house. There's a patio/deck bit, then the sidewalk, then the narrow bed with rock slabs on its outer edge. Mostly ornamentals, but a few herbs.

    I've already accidentally killed all the melons I tried to plant but my goodness I could use a mint jail. :lol: I can't believe how far it has traveled. I ripped up a bunch of it today and threw it in an area that tends to have a lot of poison ivy. I figured they can fight it out for turf. :lol:
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
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    summery79 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Beds need much more grooming, but the perennial/Winter-hardy herbs are starting to sprout a bit. The . . . um . . . enthusiastically spreading oregano is reaching the point where I could even snip a bit, even though it's tiny. (There's also about a 6" sprout of lovage up in the upper right corner. The star-shaped foliage is an ornametal Allium - same genus as onion, garlic, shallots, and chives, but not culinary.)

    a4d2ke2nazt9.jpg

    The mint is just barely coming up, in its mint-jail (isolated from other planting areas, in a discourage-it amount of shade . . . mint = invader).

    q8rj0vbdlw88.jpg

    BTW, the mint's solitary confinement is a home-made hypertufa trough. As a size gauge, that one was molded with a plastic dishpan. I've made other shapes, and most have been pretty Winter-tolerant. I like 'em.

    I whacked back the Winter-beaten sage plant a week or so ago, so it's not doing much, and the culinary thyme looks very dispirited still. (Some of the ornamental thyme growing in crevices of the paver walkway is looking pretty good, but it's not a very tasty variety.) These grow in a bed a couple of feet wide and quite long, that's behind my house. There's a patio/deck bit, then the sidewalk, then the narrow bed with rock slabs on its outer edge. Mostly ornamentals, but a few herbs.

    I've already accidentally killed all the melons I tried to plant but my goodness I could use a mint jail. :lol: I can't believe how far it has traveled. I ripped up a bunch of it today and threw it in an area that tends to have a lot of poison ivy. I figured they can fight it out for turf. :lol:
    I made the “mint mistake” years ago at our house in NC! :lol: i was advised to contain it, my young mind thought planting it in a corner of a garden bed with cinderblock on a couple sides (retaining wall) would be good enough. Sorely mistaken. Eventually the crab grass snuffed our most of it, but that’s an entirely different beast to contend with!
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,203 Member
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    I hear y'all with the mint-invader stories! I made the mistake at a past residence, too.

    This time:

    1. It's in the trough.
    2. The trough sits under an evergreen (too shady for the mint's best preferences, so it's enervated ;) ).
    3. The (big) evergreen grows in a small soil island, surrounded on all sides by asphalt** that comprises my driveway/sidewalk.

    So, it's in jail, starved of needful resources, and surrounded by an infertile moat. I think my yard is safe. ;) And I still get enough mint for my purposes.

    ** Yeah, that's weird. The former owner was from one of the big asphalt-contractor families around here; he owned this house when he was a young, non-prosperous junior scion. But man, is there a lot of asphalt! :lol:
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
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    Yeah, mint is aggressive. I'm only growing it in my herb cart.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
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    My blueberries are doing surprisingly well (they are in pots, although larger pots, so I wasn't sure if they would make it through the winter). My strawberries are looking okay but don't seem to have grown much in the past week. (The past few days have been extremely rainy, with some sun today.) New flowers are sprouting in pots, perennials are coming up, herbs are good, spring veg don't seem to be growing fast currently. Hydrangea in a pot is still not recovering from the snow and did not like the huge amounts of rain -- I might try replanting it in the ground, as I have a spot for it.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
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    my hydrangeas are slowly starting to bud.
    apple trees are starting to leaf
    some roses are budding, my rose shrub is leafing
    hyacinth are in full bloom

    hoping to do the seeds and cultivating this weekend
  • Katmary71
    Katmary71 Posts: 6,586 Member
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    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    My blueberries are doing surprisingly well (they are in pots, although larger pots, so I wasn't sure if they would make it through the winter). My strawberries are looking okay but don't seem to have grown much in the past week. (The past few days have been extremely rainy, with some sun today.) New flowers are sprouting in pots, perennials are coming up, herbs are good, spring veg don't seem to be growing fast currently. Hydrangea in a pot is still not recovering from the snow and did not like the huge amounts of rain -- I might try replanting it in the ground, as I have a spot for it.

    Do you do anything special for your blueberries? I bought mine last summer and it's in a large pot, it looks a lot better this spring but I haven't given it any fertilizer yet.

    Getting my herbs today, I'm excited! I was waiting until quarantine was over but it's going on for another month. Heard the nursery is a zoo but I really want basil and parsley to add to my herb garden. Tomatoes are still small and stevia is growing incredibly slow.
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
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    Katmary71 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    My blueberries are doing surprisingly well (they are in pots, although larger pots, so I wasn't sure if they would make it through the winter). My strawberries are looking okay but don't seem to have grown much in the past week. (The past few days have been extremely rainy, with some sun today.) New flowers are sprouting in pots, perennials are coming up, herbs are good, spring veg don't seem to be growing fast currently. Hydrangea in a pot is still not recovering from the snow and did not like the huge amounts of rain -- I might try replanting it in the ground, as I have a spot for it.

    Do you do anything special for your blueberries? I bought mine last summer and it's in a large pot, it looks a lot better this spring but I haven't given it any fertilizer yet.

    Getting my herbs today, I'm excited! I was waiting until quarantine was over but it's going on for another month. Heard the nursery is a zoo but I really want basil and parsley to add to my herb garden. Tomatoes are still small and stevia is growing incredibly slow.
    I get my herbs and seedlings from a local lady and was just voicing out loud that I wondered if she would have them this year since the farmer’s mkt wasn’t open (yet, I hope eventually maybe)... and she sent out an email last night that she has them starting this week! Yay!

    Our local Tractor Supply has some stuff in and wasn’t crazy busy at all... not supporting local, but might be an option for people. Although, some of the plants were pretty rough looking.
  • moonangel12
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    I planted an oak leaf hydrangea his winter, $7 clearanced perennials (whoop whoop! Got it and a few butterfly bushes), wasn’t sure if it would come back or not since I normally have horrible luck with them... and it did! I am so excited!
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
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    Katmary71 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    My blueberries are doing surprisingly well (they are in pots, although larger pots, so I wasn't sure if they would make it through the winter). My strawberries are looking okay but don't seem to have grown much in the past week. (The past few days have been extremely rainy, with some sun today.) New flowers are sprouting in pots, perennials are coming up, herbs are good, spring veg don't seem to be growing fast currently. Hydrangea in a pot is still not recovering from the snow and did not like the huge amounts of rain -- I might try replanting it in the ground, as I have a spot for it.

    Do you do anything special for your blueberries? I bought mine last summer and it's in a large pot, it looks a lot better this spring but I haven't given it any fertilizer yet.

    Getting my herbs today, I'm excited! I was waiting until quarantine was over but it's going on for another month. Heard the nursery is a zoo but I really want basil and parsley to add to my herb garden. Tomatoes are still small and stevia is growing incredibly slow.

    I haven't. May research whether I should. This is only my second year with them also. I'm planning to add blackberries this summer.

    My most local garden store is doing delivery, and I am getting tomatoes and peppers when ready (they deliver seedlings), although a fabulous longstanding nearby garden store is opening on Monday so I may cheat and go over there next week.

    I need to build a second raised bed, which is in my plans for this weekend.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,910 Member
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    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    20s and snowing. We'll see what this does to my plants. (I took my two big containers of flowers that I had out in front for Easter and which I knew were a little early inside, hopefully soon enough, and am hoping everything else will be okay.)

    I woke up to the white stuff on the ground too. (Cleveland-6) I planted some lettuce, kale, chard and even after covering it up last night, it looked "frozen". Does this mean they're going die??
    I really wish it warms up. Looking at more cold days ahead. 😔
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Not necessarily. Sometimes things shrink back (wilt, kinda) as part of their defense mechanism, but will recover. WIll need to wait and see. Kale, in particular, tends to be pretty darned tough.

    I don't veggie garden anymore (did for years), but still have flowers. When I post flower photos on FB in early Spring, it's a common thing for friends to say "Oh, but that's gonna get killed by tomorrow's frost/hail/snow/sleet/other Michigan Spring weirdness".

    My usual response is "Nah, those plants know what they're doing". And nearly all the time, they do. Some of the veggies are a little more marginal in Northern climates, so they may be more vulnerable. But I'd predict some will be fine, maybe even most/all.
    A note for inexperienced gardeners - even super hardy plants like kale, if they came from a grower's greenhouse, should be "hardened off" or otherwise protected in April.
    I brought in the tomatoes in pots, lettuce that was not yet in ground into the garage last night. Thank god, cuz there was 4,5 inches of snow this morning!!! The others have to stay tough out there... I did cover with sheets last night. Either way, I'm so over with this.
    If you had snow, it was WAY too early for tomatoes :)
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 4,335 Member
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    You all are an inspiration and just being here is helping me to learn and do more!

    I have a question...

    First of all I just bought my first sprouted plants - cherry tomatoes and jalapenos. I bought three types of herb seeds - lavender, parsley, rosemary plus I bought bell pepper seeds.

    Here's the question: have you ever bought a piece of fruit or a vegetable from the store and were successful in planting the fruit's seed to watch it grow? I can't plant an apple tree in my tiny backyard. But even if you did, I'd love to hear about it. I'm looking for something that doesn't take up much room. Thank you!
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
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    May 1 and I already spent some $$$ for this month’s budget... broke down and bought bags of soil from Tractor Supply, i have been trying to get some from Costco since the first hit from COVID and just didn’t get there (I tried during one of the first days of chaos - I hauled a trailer there and noped out pretty quick when the parking lot was full with cars backed up for a couple stop lights).

    Also was able to get my annual restocking of seedlings from a local farm, $80 lighter, but some things I either wasn’t successful starting (my onion seeds were total duds, not a single one sprouted), or i just don’t have seeds for them (a couple flower varieties). Hoping to get stuff planted in my newly made rock flower bed! I am excited to add more lavender plants to my yard! Also bought 3 types of mint (for the pots!), bee balm, lemon balm, variegated sage (because I am a sucker for anything variegated!), echinacea, broccoli, and a few other things... oh, and a yellow pear tomato for my son to grow for fun.
  • moonangel12
    moonangel12 Posts: 971 Member
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    LoveyChar wrote: »
    You all are an inspiration and just being here is helping me to learn and do more!

    I have a question...

    First of all I just bought my first sprouted plants - cherry tomatoes and jalapenos. I bought three types of herb seeds - lavender, parsley, rosemary plus I bought bell pepper seeds.

    Here's the question: have you ever bought a piece of fruit or a vegetable from the store and were successful in planting the fruit's seed to watch it grow? I can't plant an apple tree in my tiny backyard. But even if you did, I'd love to hear about it. I'm looking for something that doesn't take up much room. Thank you!
    Fruit seeds such as apples tend not to do well because many times they are hybrid or grafted so the offspring from that seed won’t be the same as the apple you ate. Could be a fun experiment though. They do sell dwarf fruit varieties that might be worth looking into. Or check out espalier (I think that’s spelled right).
    Standard veggies from the grocery store are bred for their durability and stability, most times lacking the depth of flavor that heirloom plants offer.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,203 Member
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    LoveyChar wrote: »
    You all are an inspiration and just being here is helping me to learn and do more!

    I have a question...

    First of all I just bought my first sprouted plants - cherry tomatoes and jalapenos. I bought three types of herb seeds - lavender, parsley, rosemary plus I bought bell pepper seeds.

    Here's the question: have you ever bought a piece of fruit or a vegetable from the store and were successful in planting the fruit's seed to watch it grow? I can't plant an apple tree in my tiny backyard. But even if you did, I'd love to hear about it. I'm looking for something that doesn't take up much room. Thank you!
    Fruit seeds such as apples tend not to do well because many times they are hybrid or grafted so the offspring from that seed won’t be the same as the apple you ate. Could be a fun experiment though. They do sell dwarf fruit varieties that might be worth looking into. Or check out espalier (I think that’s spelled right).
    Standard veggies from the grocery store are bred for their durability and stability, most times lacking the depth of flavor that heirloom plants offer.

    And store veggie types are often hybrids, too, so don't come true to seed. It's a crapshoot. Also, the commercial hybrids are often bred to favor ripening all at once (or close) for efficient harvesting, which is the exact opposite of what the typical home gardener wants (unless planting mainly to can/freeze).

    Red raspberries are pretty easy to grow, IME, spread-y, but you can keep them beaten back and get a meaningful amount of raspberries from a fairly small space.
  • LoveyChar
    LoveyChar Posts: 4,335 Member
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    @moonangel12 and @AnnPT77 Thank you...
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    I went to my local garden center this morning. I WAS going to pick up a couple of perennials and compost but ended up picking up my entire planting list. I am still filling in my perennial garden so I bought a hummingbird mint, penstemon, and a wintergreen plant for a shady corner.

    I am going to try potatoes this year. I cut the bottom out of a 27 gallon plastic tote and will grow them in that set on top of the actual garden. The seed potatoes were a total of $1 for a bag of 7 (I have space for 6) so if I yield 1 lb or more I will have saved money.
  • LoveyChar
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    This is how I planted my rosemary today...I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm reading tips and advice from gardening bloggers. I planted one seed in the pot and my husband asked why just one and I stated that the package of seeds said they should be 36 inches apart. This will be an experiment. The other object is a cut up egg carton. tcrfja9c0mlc.jpg

    This is my jalapeno pepper on the left and cherry tomato plant on the right. I live in Texas and it's a scorcher already. I think they'll do well in this heat, well at least the jalapenos will. yllkzgav53cn.jpg

  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,203 Member
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    LoveyChar wrote: »
    This is how I planted my rosemary today...I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm reading tips and advice from gardening bloggers. I planted one seed in the pot and my husband asked why just one and I stated that the package of seeds said they should be 36 inches apart. This will be an experiment. The other object is a cut up egg carton.

    (snip for length)

    Depending on variety, rosemary can be a big plant to a small shrub kind of size, when it grows up, if happy. You probably know it's perennial . . . again, if it's happy. ;) Not sure where you are in TX, but here in Michigan, it's not Winter hardy (we're 5b, I think rosemary maybe needs zone 9?) If your one in the big pot doesn't germinate, presumably you can pot up one of the little guys. It will be a while before it actually needs a big pot.

    I keep mine in a pot, and bring it indoors every Winter, which it doesn't much like, so it doesn't get really big or bushy (not enough sun), but I've had it for (mumble) years now. It's around 18" tall in a 10" pot, but will grow a bit in Summer. i don't have a lot of luck with trailing types in pots (root rot), but the upright varieties do better for me. Probably, this has to do with my being . . . free-spirited, shall we say? . . . about Winter watering schedules. Good drainage seems important, but then I have to remember to water the dang thing on the reg. ;)

    Betting you'll do better, with a warmer climate. :)
  • Katmary71
    Katmary71 Posts: 6,586 Member
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    I hit the garden center today too, no parking in the lot and I was about the 60th person in line but at least it moved fast! I definitely got more than planned and spent more buying their brand potting soil, already ran out and I need to repot my older herbs and Fresno pepper, Red Beauty, and Armenian cucumbers. Herbs are my weakness, I bought berries and cream mint, variegated sage ( @moonangel12 me too!) , two mixed basil varieties, Thai basil, Opal basil, Mrs. Burns lemon basil, Genovese, Large Leaf, sweet basil, and Mexican oregano. Still need parsley and dill but they didn't have it. I'm going to see if any of the hardware stores are doing curbside for the potting soil and a few other things I need.

    Have a great weekend gardening, the weather here is perfect for it!