June 2020 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited June 2020
    Lexigraph wrote: »
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    I was also hoping to get some advice on what seems to be a repetitive strain injury in the front of my right shoulder (Google makes me think it's my Subscapularis muscle). I think I strained it during some Zumba classes a couple weeks ago, throwing some over-enthusiastic jabs and uppercuts with poor form. I've stopped doing Zumba, and some days are better than others, but it still irritates me and can get pretty painful by the end of my run. I try my best to relax my arms, shoulders, and neck muscles when running, and have read some articles on proper form to make sure I'm not doing anything terribly wrong, but it doesn't seem to be getting better. I do exercise regularly, but don't do any heavy upper body work except some vigorous yoga twice a week, which doesn't seem to irritate it as much as running does. I only run about 3 times a week, a max of 30 minutes each, but I'd like to do more. I'd also like to start doing some upper body resistance band training, but don't want to make it worse. Should I not, and just try to rest it, ice it when it's sore, etc, or try to strengthen it with targeted exercises? I'd visit a professional but I live on a pretty remote island with a doctor that has little to no experience in this kind of !

    Disclaimer. Not a doctor just offering suggestions

    The subscapularius is on the back under the shoulder blade. Pain can radiate from back to front though. @Avidkeo you wanna join me in a game of “diagnose me”. Or anyone else? Share experiences?

    Anatomical diagrams
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    Subscap in light blue.
    Orange. Attachments, bursa of the joint and capsule.

    Things to consider: (don’t actually have to share this with the world). What’s your age? Do you have full range of motion? Which motion causes the most pain? Have you noticed a decrease in strength? Any numbness or tingling in your hand?

    Personal experience
    I have been unlucky enough to to have developed a frozen shoulder. So my first concern is that it goes beyond a strain. If it is the beginning of a frozen shoulder, ice and NSAID’s (Advil, ibuprofen, naproxen) and keep moving it but do not injure it further, and see doc/get steroid injection if possible, see a physical therapist for help. I think mine became seriously worse when I fell in the beginning of it. Seems to have become miserable quickly after that. It still is miserable. I think it will be miserable for ever. Woe is me. 🙄 haha!

    Other possibilities;
    Bursitis
    Rotator cuff tear
    Bone spurs

  • Lexigraph
    Lexigraph Posts: 9 Member
    edited June 2020
    @Elise4270 I'll be 30 in a couple months. I have full range of motion and maybe a slight decrease in strength. The most painful movement so far has been taking a tight sports bra off (arms crossed, and pulling up and off overhead).

    Subscap was an uneducated guess, my knowledge of human anatomy is very poor. Pain is definitely in the front, and just above my armpit (see photo). I've noticed that, while running, if I press into it it stops hurting.
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    Unfortunately seeing a doc, PT, or getting a steroid injection would be very difficult to impossible, which is why I definitely don't want it to get worse! Its come and gone and come back over the last couple weeks, and is mostly just irritating, but would be nice to figure out what it is. Regardless, it seems like my best bet is just going to be to try my best to rest it for a while like @katharmonic suggested.

    Oh I should also mention, it's my right shoulder, (dominant arm), so is difficult to avoid using during the day, and I definitely notice a nagging tiredness in the affected joint/muscle throughout the day after a longer morning run.
  • Tramboman
    Tramboman Posts: 2,482 Member
    6-1 7k moderate
    6-2 7k moderate
    6-3 7k easy
    6-4 7k moderately easy
    6-5 7k easily moderate

    June Total: 35k
    June Goal: 170k

    January Total: 161k
    February Total: 167k
    March Total: 181k
    April Total: 191k
    May Total: 200k

    2020 Total through May: 900k

    Cloudy, low 60s F and little wind this morning. Didn't sleep well so I started off slowly. However, I eventually found the rhythm I couldn't find yesterday, so it turned into a pretty nice run.
    Took me a long time to log into the site from my computer, although my phone seemed fine.

    When you pop in here claiming your December 2020 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?

    Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs
    Run at least 4 5k races
    Get a 5k PR
    Average at least 138k per month, to meet my Run the Year pledge of 1,020 miles
    Stretch goal: If I can average 169k per month, I can run 2020k in 2020

    Run the Year Team: Pavement Pounders

    2020 races:

    6-20 Freedom Run 5k, Aurora, OH (can't find it anywhere on line, so suspect it's cancelled)
    9-19 Race for the Parks 5k, Hudson, OH
    10-11 Haunted Hustle 5k, Aurora, OH
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,444 Member
    @AlphaHowls You are a beast, as always!

    @Tramboman I've had the same issue with the site today. It will let me go to things like, log food and community, but won't open up my home page. Some sort of glitch today, I guess. I thought it was just my slow internet that seems to get worse when it rains.

    @Lexigraph I have no insights, but hope your shoulder gets better quickly.


    I'm calling today a rest day. I was supposed to play tennis this morning for XT, but wires got crossed and 5 showed up. Only 4 can play. I volunteered to bow out since I needed to do some shopping and didn't want to get home too late. I had planned to run or XT after I got home, but can't seem to get motivated to do it on a gloomy, rainy afternoon. I'm scheduled to do a 10 mile run tomorrow, which will be my longest ever, if I get it done. So, a rest day today isn't going to hurt me.
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,154 Member
    You'll get that 10 miler tomorrow @quilteryoyo!
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    Lol @elise4270 you know me well! Haha love it. @Lexigraph I actually don't know a huge amount with the shoulder first, it's definitely not subscap. The spot you are sore in is called the acromion and you do have ligament attachments there, it's possible you have strained something. It's only been 2 weeks, so way too early to think steroid shots anyway. A quick Google sounds like this:
    https://www.yourphysio.org.uk/condition-directory/sub-acromial-pain-syndrome-shoulder-impingement/

    I think the running arm swing mimics the same action as punching in zumba, grated a bit slower, hence why it's causing you pain. Honestly you probably need to take a week off - ligaments take a while to settle.

    But then I'm a bone expert, not a muscle expert lol so take my advice with a grain of salt! But typically with tendons and ligaments is rest, with gentle stretching.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited June 2020
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Lol @elise4270 you know me well! Haha love it. @Lexigraph I actually don't know a huge amount with the shoulder first, it's definitely not subscap. The spot you are sore in is called the acromion and you do have ligament attachments there, it's possible you have strained something. It's only been 2 weeks, so way too early to think steroid shots anyway. A quick Google sounds like this:
    https://www.yourphysio.org.uk/condition-directory/sub-acromial-pain-syndrome-shoulder-impingement/

    I think the running arm swing mimics the same action as punching in zumba, grated a bit slower, hence why it's causing you pain. Honestly you probably need to take a week off - ligaments take a while to settle.

    But then I'm a bone expert, not a muscle expert lol so take my advice with a grain of salt! But typically with tendons and ligaments is rest, with gentle stretching.

    I like the way you think! I'd agree since @Lexigraph is less than 40yo and I missed it being symptomatic for 2 weeks. Hope it heals quickly!
    rheddmobile wrote: »
    Trapped inside. No protests here to speak of for the past two days but the mayor just announced they expect to keep extending curfew “indefinitely.” Apparently not being allowed outside at night is the new normal. This is why I didn’t run in the day today:
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    This was 11 am. It got hotter later.

    There are thunderstorms all during the early evening so no running for me today. I guess I will use my stationary bike. Running was the last thing keeping me sane and now they have taken it away. I had kept running despite not being allowed to use a park or go anywhere pretty but now I’m not even allowed to see the sky at night. I’m about ready to give up.

    holy kitten @rheddmobile that's warm! I sure hope you get your night sky back soon. Be safe.
  • Lexigraph
    Lexigraph Posts: 9 Member
    @Avidkeo (and @Elise4270) Yes it definitely feels like it's a pulled attachment point or something, a tendon would make sense. Though I know a week isn't much in the long run (pun intended, lol) I'm sad to put my running (and most of my other workouts) on hold. I've been so motivated thus far, which has been great, but definitely don't want to risk any long term issues. I may have even been overtraining, so some time off will be good all round. Hopefully I'll be able to stay motivated and get back at it (at a more sustainable pace!) when my shoulder is back to normal. Thanks so much for the help and advice, the link you sent is definitely appreciated!
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,444 Member
    @rheddmobile Don't give up. I don't see the protests lasting much longer - not the violent ones anyway. Hopefully the curfew will be lifted soon. I wouldn't run in that heat either! Geeze.

  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,154 Member
    @rheddmobile I couldn't run in that heat either. Hang in there. I hope they lift the curfew soon.
  • skippygirlsmom
    skippygirlsmom Posts: 4,433 Member
    6/1 – 4
    6/2 – 5
    6/3 – 4
    6/4 – 4
    6/5 - 4

    21 of 100 miles
    Races:
    Mother’s Day Virtual 5K – done
    Retro Run Virtual 5K – done
    Rona on the Run - Virtual for St. Jude benefit - done
    Keep Moving Huntsville - at least one mile a day 1 - 31 May - done
    The Big Run - June 3 - done
    NEGU virtual run - June - Team NEGU helping support kids with cancer
    Pirate Challenge – 10 weeks mile challenge June - Sept
    Flora-Bama 600K - Virtual race from Huntsville AL to the Florida Alabama state line in Orange Beach
  • ABabilonia
    ABabilonia Posts: 622 Member
    06/01/2020: 3.1
    06/02/2020: 2.5
    06/03/2020: 3.1
    06/04/2020: 4
    06/05/2020: 3.1


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  • hamsterwheel6
    hamsterwheel6 Posts: 544 Member
    @rheddmobile I feel you. Hang in there, it’s tough for sure. The heat is crazy.

    Rest day today, did a BodyBoss workout at home.
    Hoping to get. A long run in this weekend. Will have to go early early.
  • Faebert
    Faebert Posts: 1,588 Member
    Got in 5 miles early before work yesterday but forgot to post. Pace is still improving, which is good, and I was lucky it was a little bit cooler than the last couple of runs.

    Hoping things are easing for you weather and curfew-wise @rheddmobile and that your 10 mile run goes well @quilteryoyo.

    Today I’m doing strength training and a bit of yoga. Hoping for a long run tomorrow.

    Happy weekend all x

    June goal: 75 miles
    June total: 15 miles

    1/6: 5m
    2/6: Strength training
    3/6: 5m
    4/6: Strength training
    5/6: 5m

    May: 80 m
    April: 115 m
    March: 76.4 m
    February: 17.8 m
    January: 0
  • Faebert
    Faebert Posts: 1,588 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Non running. DH had to take himself off to ED today, he was getting pain when he peed, muscle aches, and general tired malaise.

    He's been there 4hrs, had IV antibiotics and is now getting fluids. I'm at home with the kids and I'm on call tonight (he went to my hospital). Fortunately my mum is here for a visit so she can watch the kids if I get a call out.

    I'm worried he's going to be admitted. It's definitely a possibility. He HATES hospitals. Sigh.

    I'm OK, just hard not being with him or knowing what exactly is going on. Im so tired from last night on call so will be trying to get sleep soon. (it's 840pm here now).

    I'll let you know how he's doing in the morning, or when I know more.

    Sorry to read this @Avidkeo - hope all is ok and that you can get some rest x
  • marisap2010
    marisap2010 Posts: 909 Member
    @Avidkeo I hope everything turns out ok for your husband.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Non running. DH had to take himself off to ED today, he was getting pain when he peed, muscle aches, and general tired malaise.

    He's been there 4hrs, had IV antibiotics and is now getting fluids. I'm at home with the kids and I'm on call tonight (he went to my hospital). Fortunately my mum is here for a visit so she can watch the kids if I get a call out.

    I'm worried he's going to be admitted. It's definitely a possibility. He HATES hospitals. Sigh.

    I'm OK, just hard not being with him or knowing what exactly is going on. Im so tired from last night on call so will be trying to get sleep soon. (it's 840pm here now).

    I'll let you know how he's doing in the morning, or when I know more.

    Wow that stinks. I have to agree with him on being checked into hospitals. UGH. Hopefully, it passes quickly.
  • brittanystebbins95
    brittanystebbins95 Posts: 567 Member
    @Avidkeo I'll keep your husband in my thoughts and prayers ♥ I hope he's okay. I hate hospitals, too, however necessary they are.

    I plan to run outside tonight instead of on the treadmill, for the first time in what seems like forever, weather permitting. It's not supposed to get above 77° F today, so fingers crossed. The dogs will be happy. They've had a well-deserved break but I can tell its making them restless.
  • Scott6255
    Scott6255 Posts: 2,551 Member
    Yay, that is good news @Avidkeo! At least he is home and has a diagnosis and antibiotics to treat it. Hope goes away soon!
  • Tramboman
    Tramboman Posts: 2,482 Member
    6-1 7k moderate
    6-2 7k moderate
    6-3 7k easy
    6-4 7k moderately easy
    6-5 7k easily moderate
    6-6 7k slow

    June Total: 42k
    June Goal: 170k

    January Total: 161k
    February Total: 167k
    March Total: 181k
    April Total: 191k
    May Total: 200k

    2020 Total through May: 900k

    Sunny and upper 60s F today, with a little breeze out of the northeast. Thought about a longer run, but during kilometer 7 my right SI joint decided to be unhappy. With a half a k to go, it then decided it was OK after all, but I suspected it might have been a trick, so I stopped at 7.

    @avidkeo Glad things worked out OK.

    When you pop in here claiming your December 2020 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?

    Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs
    Run at least 4 5k races
    Get a 5k PR
    Average at least 138k per month, to meet my Run the Year pledge of 1,020 miles
    Stretch goal: If I can average 169k per month, I can run 2020k in 2020

    Run the Year Team: Pavement Pounders

    2020 races:

    9-19 Race for the Parks 5k, Hudson, OH
    10-11 Haunted Hustle 5k, Aurora, OH

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