I have Covid 19
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I don't generally bother trying to retort other people's opinions contrary to mine on this or any other forum but I am confused why anyone would disagree w/my prior comments in general and what in particular people take issue with.
Nothing I said previously is incorrect. I believe in "science" and I read the news about C-19 everyday.
It's a fact, that C-19 is an "insidious" disease and until "herd immunity" is achieved thru vaccination or infection WORLD WIDE, everyone will still have to wear a mask, socially distance and maintain other santitary practices to avoid catching it.
And, it is still possible to catch C19 even if you do all that.
So, I'd be curious to hear what people are specifically taking issue with in my prior statement so that we can get the "facts" straight.9 -
Sorry u caught it but u somehow lapsed in taking the necessary precautions to prevent it.
That DOES NOT make it ur fault and I'm in NO WAY trying the blame the "victim" but this is an insidious disease that's far most infectious and debilitating than the common flu, wc has all but disappeared w/ the C19 precautions.
I have not gotten C19 "YET" despite going to the PO, grocery store, gas station and other places regularly.
This doesn't mean that I still can't get it but I'm doing what I can 2 to prevent it by wearing an N99 equiv mask, social distancing and not touching my face w/o washing my hands or distenfecting them w/IPA 1st.
Really not much else that u can do and even if u get vaccinated u still have at least a 5% chance if catching it, even if u still wear a mask, socially distance and wash/disinfect ur hands.
Sorry 2 say, it is what it is.
Good luck and I hope that u and your mother get well soon!
JMO but your 1st 2 sentences were confusing to me. You say it was a lapse on her part but then say you're not trying to blame the victim.
Then the next 2 sentences state you haven't gotten Covid yet and doing all you can to prevent that.
Put that all together and it feels, TO ME, that you were saying they were at fault by not doing all they could do to prevent getting it.
Maybe that wasn't your intention at all and it's difficult sometimes to not read things behind written words so maybe I'm wrong. I cannot speak for everybody else who disagreed but those were my thoughts. As I said in my previous reply to your post, unless we stay in a bubble dressed in a Haz-Mat suit, everybody is fair game.
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yweight2020 wrote: »
Thank you for your response this country should have done what Australia did then.applespearsncakes wrote: »So horrible for you and your poor Mum. I'm in Australia where we don't have the same magnitude of COVID. I hope you are able to eat properly and get your stamina. You must be so upset about your Mum. x
Where much better and I was very upset, but we're really on the mend she's eating all her meals now though mostly pureed and drinking her liquids, getting naps and watching some TV, still slow healing for her she's a bit fatigued still as the doctors say you can be after isolation and we continue to isolate for this reason. But much better overall since she came home.
What are you doing to stay safe from covid in Australia? Are you out at work? The stores for food?
Take care and thank you for your kind words.😉🙃🤗❤
Since applespearsncakes hasn't replied yet and I'm in Australia too I'll give my take on where I am. We have zero Covid so don't need to really do anything much. I am still careful so wash my hands and use sanitiser. The shops all have some for you to use before entering if you want to use it. No masks needed here but I have some ready if things change on day (we are in North Queensland). We had a short while when some worked from home but most are back in their place of work. Brisbane has had the odd very small cases of COVID and if they pop up things get shut into lock down quickly for a brief period but otherwise it's all things as usual basically here. They do still have tables spaced in restaurants and we are told to social distance etc.. but it's not really an issue for now. If other states have an outbreak we shut the boarders fast in most states. Any Aussies returning from overseas must go into the governments choice of quarantine hotel for two weeks at their own expense. At first they had plenty of time to come home and stay at them and the government paid for it all but that period is over now.
I should add that our figures show a few cases most days but if you read carefully they are almost always only the international travellers that flew in and quarantined till they are known to be virus free.5 -
I am a home health and hospice RN. Even though I wore all PPE and was super diligent I still contracted Covid from a patient. Patient did ultimately pass from Covid.
I was infected on 12/4 and am STILL unable to return to work due to long covid symptoms.
I barely remember the first 2 weeks I was so very sick.
I am in my 40s and in good health. I came straight home and we all strictly isolated for over 2 weeks due to fevers and cough not improving after the 10 day period.
Hubby stayed in our RV and my dauvhter stayed downstairs. Thankfully no one else contracted the virus.
It is frustrating seeing some follow all CDC recommendations and still get sick while some that follow none stay healthy.
It is such a new virus with so many unknowns but I assure all that masking, hygeine and isolating do help. If we ALL followed the recommendations from the very beginning things would likely not have gotten this bad.
Thankfully we do have the vaccine, we now just need to get it to everyone.
Healthy foods, fluids and rest. Try to not stress or worry about things you cannot change. Maybe work in some mindfulness meditations. Headspace and Insight Timer are great resources for this.
These are the best things you can do for yourself ans your loved ones.
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@Lynnberge1
I hope you feel better soon; that's a long time to feel terrible.
Thank you for the work you do; it's not for the faint of heart.6 -
fishsquisher wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »yweight2020 wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »Prayers of support for you and your mom. This pandemic is maddening ... the media and political blitz make you think if you wear your mask and do exactly what they say.. you won't get it. Not true.. most people who get it are mask wearers and do their very best .as you did. It is a virus that is random and unpredictable.
Take your vitamin C, your zinc...and vitamin d3... if you don' have it.. sign up for instacart and have it delivered from one of your drug stores. You can also have your groceries delivered by them as well.
The hospitals are much better at the treatments now.. so. your mom getting COVID at this time, means the best treatments/theraputics are now available and doctors know more of what they're doing. That wasn't the case six months ago. ]
Stay positive.. take care of yourself.. I know of 11 people.. including a 99 year old and an obese woman with diabetes who recovered from the virus.
My husband is in respiratory. We’ve moved 3 times so he can teach high risk areas and hospitals about the virus and how to use the newest ventilators. I usually don’t comment on posts like this, but your comment is not only incorrect but irresponsible. I know you mean well, and I’ve enjoyed your posts so far that I’ve seen, but please don’t continue to spread this myth. He is working diligently to correct this type of misinformation.
Hi what did you feel was misinformation, its true most mask were recommended to wear don't work unless there n95 or kn95 or something similar. And we can't go wrong taking vitamins in my doctors opinion.
And the media does share alot of mis information.
And the hospitals do have it better together than In the beginning, some more than others.
If you know something we should know please share.
My mom did get an approved drug for covid, along with pain meds, o2 and IV fluids along with her regular meds.
Let's help and support one another, thanks. 😉❤🤗
Oh shoot I missed this! Sorry for the late response. And forgive me if I don’t get into a debate about this- it’s not my intention.
To answer your question, it was the generalization of her comments I bolded that are dangerous. If people believe masks don’t matter and the pandemic is unpredictable than people don’t follow best practices to alleviate the spread.
The information I have is no secret of course, but it is easily accessible to all on cdc.gov. I just checked it today myself and it discusses masks fairly. When people spread the idea that “cloth masks don’t work. Even people who do everything they can to prevent it still get it, so why try?” then the hospitals receive the impact of that misinformation. When the guidelines are followed, such as wearing masks in the correct manner, social distancing, and sanitizing frequently, hospitals decrease in numbers and the spread is lessened. Frontline workers like my husband, who are the ones saving lives, implore us to do our part. It is not unpredictable, and we are not helpless. We should be listening to medical professionals and scientists, not a political party, IMO. And like you said, supporting and helping each other 🙏🏻
So you're lying, but its ok because you're doing it for good reasons. people like you and the lies you told people from the beginning, rather than treating them like adults and telling the truth is the actual reason masks became political. absolutely disgusting, and then on top of it to whine about demanding worship of so-called heroes who are simply doing the job they signed up for, while spending most of their time making idiotic tik tok videos. you're a terrible, arrogant person and should be ashamed of yourself.
Yikes. Are you okay? That’s pretty abusive.4 -
yweight2020 wrote: »
Thank you for your response this country should have done what Australia did then.applespearsncakes wrote: »So horrible for you and your poor Mum. I'm in Australia where we don't have the same magnitude of COVID. I hope you are able to eat properly and get your stamina. You must be so upset about your Mum. x
Where much better and I was very upset, but we're really on the mend she's eating all her meals now though mostly pureed and drinking her liquids, getting naps and watching some TV, still slow healing for her she's a bit fatigued still as the doctors say you can be after isolation and we continue to isolate for this reason. But much better overall since she came home.
What are you doing to stay safe from covid in Australia? Are you out at work? The stores for food?
Take care and thank you for your kind words.😉🙃🤗❤
Since applespearsncakes hasn't replied yet and I'm in Australia too I'll give my take on where I am. We have zero Covid so don't need to really do anything much. I am still careful so wash my hands and use sanitiser. The shops all have some for you to use before entering if you want to use it. No masks needed here but I have some ready if things change on day (we are in North Queensland). We had a short while when some worked from home but most are back in their place of work. Brisbane has had the odd very small cases of COVID and if they pop up things get shut into lock down quickly for a brief period but otherwise it's all things as usual basically here. They do still have tables spaced in restaurants and we are told to social distance etc.. but it's not really an issue for now. If other states have an outbreak we shut the boarders fast in most states. Any Aussies returning from overseas must go into the governments choice of quarantine hotel for two weeks at their own expense. At first they had plenty of time to come home and stay at them and the government paid for it all but that period is over now.
I should add that our figures show a few cases most days but if you read carefully they are almost always only the international travellers that flew in and quarantined till they are known to be virus free.
This is an awesome update! It’s encouraging to see what can happen if we all come together and follow guidelines. I really miss seeing people’s faces!2 -
Whomever disagreed with me could you please say what I said was incorrect so I can prove what I said it true to you and then tell me what your country is doing better if it has the pandemic is killing lots of people? I guess you don't wear a mask and should be too.0
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I have to strongly disagree, for the US. The recommendations from the beginning were intended to avoid ICU overload, not stamp out the virus. We are largely were we expected to be, the virus continues to spread but mostly at levels that can be managed.Lynnberge1 wrote: »It is such a new virus with so many unknowns but I assure all that masking, hygeine and isolating do help. If we ALL followed the recommendations from the very beginning things would likely not have gotten this bad.
The US strategy was never to squash the virus, as New Zealand and many isolated Asian countries chose to do. Maybe the US should have pursued that strategy, but we didn't. We are exactly were we should have expected to be, with each city or region adjusting their restrictions in response to local infection/hospitalization rates.
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I disagree. This country handled it poorly from day 1. Could have and still could do so much better.6
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I did not mean guidelines were to "stomp out the virus". There isnt any way to do that unless herd immunity is achieved.
We as a country handled it poorly.6 -
Also, frontline healthcare workers are NOT being paid via government funding like everyone else when forced to quarantine awaiting test results.
We are also not paid when off due to infection.
L and I will cover 40 to 60% of your base pay.
My husband drives truck and was told he had to quarantine for 14 days due to my covid infection.
His employer covered 100% of his wages which the government pays back.
They say frontline healthcare workers are exempt from this wage replacement.
I take some offense to the comment insinuating we shouldn't get special treatment as this is our job.
Then military people who sign up are also just doing what they signed up for?
Firefighters, paramedics?
I was a Trauma 2 ER RN before this.....not doing anything special......just our jobs?
I do not want hero treatment but definitely feel hazard pay and being paid 100% of our wages when infected doing a job not many are willing to do is the LEAST that could be done.
We DO deserve respect. We have worked much harder and longer under much more stress and a sfressed to breaking system.
Only someone that has no clue what healthcare workers and nurses are actually doing for communities right now would make such an asinine comment.
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Bullies and trolls are even on MFP. Not sure why this surprises me.5
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Lynnberge1 wrote: »Also, frontline healthcare workers are NOT being paid via government funding like everyone else when forced to quarantine awaiting test results.
We are also not paid when off due to infection.
L and I will cover 40 to 60% of your base pay.
My husband drives truck and was told he had to quarantine for 14 days due to my covid infection.
His employer covered 100% of his wages which the government pays back.
They say frontline healthcare workers are exempt from this wage replacement.
I take some offense to the comment insinuating we shouldn't get special treatment as this is our job.
Then military people who sign up are also just doing what they signed up for?
Firefighters, paramedics?
I was a Trauma 2 ER RN before this.....not doing anything special......just our jobs?
I do not want hero treatment but definitely feel hazard pay and being paid 100% of our wages when infected doing a job not many are willing to do is the LEAST that could be done.
We DO deserve respect. We have worked much harder and longer under much more stress and a sfressed to breaking system.
Only someone that has no clue what healthcare workers and nurses are actually doing for communities right now would make such an asinine comment.
One of my best friends for a VERY long time on here is a RN in NYC. I think you are all amazing. I can't even imagine how you are all dealing with this. Massive hugs to you. Thank you for all that you do.5 -
Australia seems to have a grip on Covid, however, they've a population of what - 30-35K people (about the population of California - one state!) and the US has 330,000! Huge difference. Most people I know (over 55) have 'sheltered in place' other than necessary errands, faithfully following the mask/social distancing. When life resumes to the next level here the outbreaks skyrocket. Herd immunity (like all previous viruses) via resuming to normal life (which will happen now w/election over) will be the answer along with the vaccine to protect the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions.1
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Hopefully, normal life to reach herd immunity will be the answer -- obviously, the next level of normalcy here and back again to phase 1 due to outbreak isn't working. Apparently, the new mutated virus is 30% more deadly - this is unreal.0
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Australia seems to have a grip on Covid, however, they've a population of what - 30-35K people (about the population of California - one state!) and the US has 330,000! Huge difference. Most people I know (over 55) have 'sheltered in place' other than necessary errands, faithfully following the mask/social distancing. When life resumes to the next level here the outbreaks skyrocket. Herd immunity (like all previous viruses) via resuming to normal life (which will happen now w/election over) will be the answer along with the vaccine to protect the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions.
And I agree. I never said otherwise about other places no matter how much the population is. I hope things get better there very soon with all of my heart. Big hugs to all there.
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Lynnberge1 wrote: »Also, frontline healthcare workers are NOT being paid via government funding like everyone else when forced to quarantine awaiting test results.
We are also not paid when off due to infection.
L and I will cover 40 to 60% of your base pay.
My husband drives truck and was told he had to quarantine for 14 days due to my covid infection.
His employer covered 100% of his wages which the government pays back.
They say frontline healthcare workers are exempt from this wage replacement.
I take some offense to the comment insinuating we shouldn't get special treatment as this is our job.
Then military people who sign up are also just doing what they signed up for?
Firefighters, paramedics?
I was a Trauma 2 ER RN before this.....not doing anything special......just our jobs?
I do not want hero treatment but definitely feel hazard pay and being paid 100% of our wages when infected doing a job not many are willing to do is the LEAST that could be done.
We DO deserve respect. We have worked much harder and longer under much more stress and a sfressed to breaking system.
Only someone that has no clue what healthcare workers and nurses are actually doing for communities right now would make such an asinine comment.
Respect NEEDS to be given to workers such as you, verbally and financially!!! What happens to anyone's morale in their profession when not treated right? It's a huge kick in the teeth. You'd have to be superhuman to not need that type of feedback to be doing your kind of work.
But unfortunately, I see it through local agencies as well. Home health workers that are getting a little above minimum pay and then the agency has such a huge turnover, yet they're surprised???? Over the past year, I've personally witnessed dozens of aides and homemakers leaving the agency due to higher pay elsewhere, not to mention politics and bureaucracy. One of my sister's favorite LNAs is leaving Home Health due to lousy pay, the agency not working with her or showing appreciation; ex. a new person is getting the same pay as this LNA who's been there 11 years. Something is totally off the mark.
IMO if an establishment of any kind is lucky enough to have qualified and dedicated workers in their system, they should do whatever they can to keep them.
Again, thank you LynnBerge, without you and people like you, where would everybody be????5 -
Whomever disagreed with me could you please say what I said was incorrect so I can prove what I said it true to you and then tell me what your country is doing better if it has the pandemic is killing lots of people? I guess you don't wear a mask and should be too.
I didn't disagree with you but I'll attempt a response. It may be "Australian English" or just the way internet interactions are but many of your posts seem to have condescending/judgmental/air of superiority tone/comments in them (see bolded above).
I'm thinking some people scroll by, see your screen name and hit disagree regardless of what you say.8 -
I can say it was totally 100% not meant that way at all but whatever.. people can take things as they like. I was only stating the facts and nothing more. The part about not wearing a mask was because they were rude by disagreeing instead of saying what was incorrect in their eyes and probably don't wear a mask when they should so not sorry about that part.0
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I can say it was totally 100% not meant that way at all but whatever.. people can take things as they like. I was only stating the facts and nothing more. The part about not wearing a mask was because they were rude by disagreeing instead of saying what was incorrect in their eyes and probably don't wear a mask when they should so not sorry about that part.
I have disagreed with you in the past, but I haven't hit the button recently. I have noticed that when you get upset about this, you claim that person must not wear a mask or must not care. You've done it several times....once to me (and I wear a mask and care a lot). I don't see the connection. People can disagree....it doesn't make them (or you) a monster.
If you put yourself out there, you will get those who disagree. I have been posting a bit more and my number of disagrees has doubled lol.11 -
I've noticed that sometimes people hit the disagree button just because they don't like what was said. Don't worry about it. You'll never know who it was or what their motivation is or what specifically they disagreed with, or if you do you might not want to know who it was or what their motivation was. Especially if someone runs everything through a political partisan lens. Just let it go.4
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Lynnberge1 wrote: »I disagree. This country handled it poorly from day 1. Could have and still could do so much better.
How so? My state Gov (WA) did a pretty good job.3 -
yweight2020 wrote: »Took it serious from the beginning followed all the rules and extra ones, I didn't work because I stayed home to be a full time caregiver to my mom who has been sick for 4 years now, parkinson and dementia.
At first I thought we both caught a cold until her doctor said we should test her for covid, it came back positive for covid pneumonia for both of us and as of yesterday she is in the hospital and I'm at home.
No one at the hospital to support her from the family, she is confused and without us. The medical team seem nice and like their doing everything they can for her.
But this is so scary things will never be the same going forward, how can you fight off a disease like this and not get it again if you survive need to work, go to the grocery store and pharmacy just the basics.
The nurse said to me after I quarantine I need to order everything because more than likely I got it in one of these places just walking by someone.
More worried about my mom then myself.
I used gloves, sanitizer, mask stayed home 90 percent of the time. What else could we do.
So sorry to hear you got the virus. It is mild for most people and extremely serious for others.
It’s been a few weeks since your original post. How are you doing? How is your mom doing?
Take care
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LisaGetsMoving wrote: »I've noticed that sometimes people hit the disagree button just because they don't like what was said. Don't worry about it. You'll never know who it was or what their motivation is or what specifically they disagreed with, or if you do you might not want to know who it was or what their motivation was. Especially if someone runs everything through a political partisan lens. Just let it go.
I am a bit too sensitive so guess it's my own issue. Thanks for your input. I definitely am never rude or mean anything like I think we are superior etc here. Only wanted to state facts and sorry if it comes across in any other way. It's hard to say what you mean with words on a screen so everyone understands what you mean.5 -
Lynnberge1 wrote: »I disagree. This country handled it poorly from day 1. Could have and still could do so much better.
For the first couple of months my countries top health authority was of the opinion that people wearing masks would increase transmissions and recommended against their use. So it could always be worse.4 -
Australia seems to have a grip on Covid, however, they've a population of what - 30-35K people (about the population of California - one state!) and the US has 330,000! Huge difference. Most people I know (over 55) have 'sheltered in place' other than necessary errands, faithfully following the mask/social distancing. When life resumes to the next level here the outbreaks skyrocket. Herd immunity (like all previous viruses) via resuming to normal life (which will happen now w/election over) will be the answer along with the vaccine to protect the elderly and those with underlying medical conditions.
Yes Australia (pop about 26 million) and New Zealand (pop about 5 million) have a good grip on Covid.
I dont think that is because their population numbers are smaller though or that smaller population numbers somehow explains their success.
All relevant charts compare Covid rates per population so the rate is proportionately adjusted.
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I can say it was totally 100% not meant that way at all but whatever.. people can take things as they like. I was only stating the facts and nothing more. The part about not wearing a mask was because they were rude by disagreeing instead of saying what was incorrect in their eyes and probably don't wear a mask when they should so not sorry about that part.
I didn't disagree with you either, but I really don't see the link with the mask thing. Just because someone disagrees with your post, which you interpret as rude, doesn't tell you anything about whether or not they wear a mask (or pay their taxes, or eat meat, or any other behaviour in life) especially when your post wasn't focussed on mask wearing. I think if you dropped these kinds of assumptions and comments (which I agree can have an air or superiority or are be felt to be judgemental), people may react differently to you.
That being said, I really wouldn't worry about the disagrees. Some people hit it by accident while scrolling, some do it on multiple posts in a thread for little reason, some people won't agree with you but these are just strangers on a public internet forum, I wouldn't let it bother you.
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Yes I've kind of figured that out now thank you Red.1
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