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Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
At this point they should just lift the mask mandates it’s getting ridiculous everyone has the opportunity to get their vaccine let us have a normal life ffs.9 -
This is the only way to really get herd immunity and convinced people to get vaccinated. Don't you think ?
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Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
At this point they should just lift the mask mandates it’s getting ridiculous everyone has the opportunity to get their vaccine let us have a normal life ffs.
I would love the 7 people who disagreed with this to think about how it would feel having to cancel their wedding for the THIRD time in a year because it is scheduled literally 7 days before the probable full provincial reopening goes into effect. Even though every guest will be fully vaccinated. It sucks.8 -
Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
At this point they should just lift the mask mandates it’s getting ridiculous everyone has the opportunity to get their vaccine let us have a normal life ffs.
I would love the 7 people who disagreed with this to think about how it would feel having to cancel their wedding for the THIRD time in a year because it is scheduled literally 7 days before the probable full provincial reopening goes into effect. Even though every guest will be fully vaccinated. It sucks.
If it's just the masks I would try to come up with some way to incorporate them into the wedding, like lace-covered masks in the wedding colors for everyone. If there are attendance restrictions, then that just sucks.8 -
@33gail33 I am do very sorry for the impact on your family. We were fortunate DD wedding was 2017 and our first grandson was born Jan 31, 2020. (Ironically DD and husband were masked a quarentined for delivery and recovery because DD was diagnosed with the flu - portending of things to come?). Our niece had to have her wedding moved. Our neighbors daughter was moved twice and then cancelled as a public event. Friends of my daughter were just married two weeks ago after two cancellations for them. Weddings are a special family moment and start to life together. I do hope that it all works out and your son's wedding is lovely on Sept 24.6
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I can't help but feel that people who would consider a wedding ruined because people have to wear masks would always find something to be unhappy about -- the weather was bad, the flowers weren't perfect, something was wrong with the cake, the food, the DJ, the band.
I've been to weddings where people made drunken scenes or fist fights broke out involving immediate family of bride and groom. The couples are still happily married, and people still have good memories of other parts of the day.13 -
I got married in February. Instead of worrying about a venue, we decorated my in-laws house and had a small wedding there. It was beautiful, personal, and our guests(close family and a few friends) were on board for wearing masks despite most of them being fully vaccinated. My mother-in-law made me a beautiful mask using lace from her wedding dress and wearing masks did not disrupt our day. We took it off while eating/drinking, while taking some photos, and during the ceremony(JOP requested it so people could hear us better, but it was a very quick ceremony, and sealing the deal would have been quite unusual). I wouldn't have changed anything, except for being able to have my brother there with us; CA and CT both had tough restrictions, and his return to work would have been more complicated due to their covid policies. Fortunately, we were able to video call him to watch the wedding, and that was perfect.
Unless the reason you will have to reschedule is due to size limitations, I would still keep the date. Masks are not going to ruin the entire day, and if people don't want to wear them while supporting the bride and groom, then they don't seem very supportive, IMHO.15 -
Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
At this point they should just lift the mask mandates it’s getting ridiculous everyone has the opportunity to get their vaccine let us have a normal life ffs.
I would love the 7 people who disagreed with this to think about how it would feel having to cancel their wedding for the THIRD time in a year because it is scheduled literally 7 days before the probable full provincial reopening goes into effect. Even though every guest will be fully vaccinated. It sucks.
33gail33 - if I remember correctly you are in Ontario? if so, I can totally relate to your frustration. not sure people outside Ontario/Canada know just how bad we have had it here. the rest of the world has been opening up around us for MONTHS and here we can't go to the gym/get a haircut/go to a restaurant/play outdoor sports.
even more frustrating is the constantly shifting goal posts - Ontario has far surpassed the "goals" to be much closer to a reopening (still nowhere near a full reopening) and just as we reach the milestone they move the goalpost.
so I can totally relate to the frustration of thinking something is going to happen (for me it has been the gym and baseball season) only to be told again and again that the timeline is changing (with no good justification - our covid cases are in the 200's for a population of 15 million+)7 -
cmhubbard92 wrote: »I got married in February. Instead of worrying about a venue, we decorated my in-laws house and had a small wedding there. It was beautiful, personal, and our guests(close family and a few friends) were on board for wearing masks despite most of them being fully vaccinated. My mother-in-law made me a beautiful mask using lace from her wedding dress and wearing masks did not disrupt our day. We took it off while eating/drinking, while taking some photos, and during the ceremony(JOP requested it so people could hear us better, but it was a very quick ceremony, and sealing the deal would have been quite unusual). I wouldn't have changed anything, except for being able to have my brother there with us; CA and CT both had tough restrictions, and his return to work would have been more complicated due to their covid policies. Fortunately, we were able to video call him to watch the wedding, and that was perfect.
Unless the reason you will have to reschedule is due to size limitations, I would still keep the date. Masks are not going to ruin the entire day, and if people don't want to wear them while supporting the bride and groom, then they don't seem very supportive, IMHO.
here in Ontario (where I think 33gail33 is from) we have not been able to meet with people from outside our household for months. we have been on lockdown since last November and could literally not meet with anyone we don't live with - in or outside. And yes, police have been called on people who have others over - it is absolute insanity here with no real end in sight. that being said, some of those restrictions MAY be easing up in the next month or two, but I would imagine it is hard for someone to plan on having a wedding having no idea if that would even be legal at the time (even in a private home).5 -
A super spreader event in Sydney Australia in the last couple of weeks (the numbers may be low compared to elsewhere but does show the impac of having the vaccine)....of the 30 or so people in attendance the only people who did not catch the delta virus were those who had the vaccine including one person who had only one dose. So of the about 30 in attendance...24 contracted the virus...six did not, and those six had the vaccine.18
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@Muscleflex79 that makes sense. If its purely restrictions causing the need to postpone the wedding, that makes sense and is frustrating. Original post appears as though it is frustrated with mask mandated being extended, and that they can't have a "normal" wedding, not anything else, and that is what my response was about.Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.2
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cmhubbard92 wrote: »@Muscleflex79 that makes sense. If its purely restrictions causing the need to postpone the wedding, that makes sense and is frustrating. Original post appears as though it is frustrated with mask mandated being extended, and that they can't have a "normal" wedding, not anything else, and that is what my response was about.Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
Yeah, I wasn't sure about that either - if it was just the mask situation or numbers restriction. Either way it is a very frustrating time to be an Ontarian right now!3 -
(Disclaimer: not knocking anyone who actually enjoys big weddings; just sharing MY experience and opinion.)
I got married (to my now-ex husband) in Okinawa in the late 80s. We were both in the military. We first had to do a bunch of stuff on base, then had to run around getting paperwork signed at various places off base, where there was a considerable language barrier. We had Iron Maiden's "Somewhere in Time" cassette on a loop the whole time. After the last stop, we looked at each other and said, "I guess we're married now?" and exchanged rings.
I hate big social events like weddings and will always have fond memories of this. And my legal marriage certificate in in Japanese, which is fun.
I'm trying to figure out how to get my next marriage as small as possible. Thinking Justice of the Peace. But my Mom wants to go, and my sister, and then we'd have to invite his brother (and family.) Ack.13 -
My best friend got married a couple weeks ago; barefoot in her backyard with two witnesses and the guy doing the ceremony. They're planning a ceremony/reception in September but the real wedding is done. The only person who is annoyed is her mom.7
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Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
At this point they should just lift the mask mandates it’s getting ridiculous everyone has the opportunity to get their vaccine let us have a normal life ffs.
I would love the 7 people who disagreed with this to think about how it would feel having to cancel their wedding for the THIRD time in a year because it is scheduled literally 7 days before the probable full provincial reopening goes into effect. Even though every guest will be fully vaccinated. It sucks.
Will they not allow an outdoor wedding? If all the guests are fully vaccinated and the wedding and reception are outdoors, I think it's absolutely asinine if it's still not allowed. Apparently, the scientific experts are OK with it. Not sure why it wouldn't be OK with the local officials, too. The risk is low. That's frustrating.4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »(Disclaimer: not knocking anyone who actually enjoys big weddings; just sharing MY experience and opinion.)
I got married (to my now-ex husband) in Okinawa in the late 80s. We were both in the military. We first had to do a bunch of stuff on base, then had to run around getting paperwork signed at various places off base, where there was a considerable language barrier. We had Iron Maiden's "Somewhere in Time" cassette on a loop the whole time. After the last stop, we looked at each other and said, "I guess we're married now?" and exchanged rings.
I hate big social events like weddings and will always have fond memories of this. And my legal marriage certificate in in Japanese, which is fun.
I'm trying to figure out how to get my next marriage as small as possible. Thinking Justice of the Peace. But my Mom wants to go, and my sister, and then we'd have to invite his brother (and family.) Ack.
My husband and I were both in the military, too--we had the "marriage in minutes" in a Virginia courthouse in the early 90s, immediately followed by a sign-off by a marriage broker. We wanted to be married to each other before he went to Kosovo, so we did. We had a large party for family and friends when he got back.
In no-plague times, I can see wanting the ceremony and the party. But, especially in the early days of the pandemic, when death rates were so high and everything was uncertain, I didn't (still don't) understand why people postponed and delayed weddings--were they really prepared to live with potentially not marrying the person they loved because, by the gods, they wanted the dream party to go with it? We weren't; I guess others are.
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kshama2001 wrote: »(Disclaimer: not knocking anyone who actually enjoys big weddings; just sharing MY experience and opinion.)
I got married (to my now-ex husband) in Okinawa in the late 80s. We were both in the military. We first had to do a bunch of stuff on base, then had to run around getting paperwork signed at various places off base, where there was a considerable language barrier. We had Iron Maiden's "Somewhere in Time" cassette on a loop the whole time. After the last stop, we looked at each other and said, "I guess we're married now?" and exchanged rings.
I hate big social events like weddings and will always have fond memories of this. And my legal marriage certificate in in Japanese, which is fun.
I'm trying to figure out how to get my next marriage as small as possible. Thinking Justice of the Peace. But my Mom wants to go, and my sister, and then we'd have to invite his brother (and family.) Ack.
My husband and I were both in the military, too--we had the "marriage in minutes" in a Virginia courthouse in the early 90s, immediately followed by a sign-off by a marriage broker. We wanted to be married to each other before he went to Kosovo, so we did. We had a large party for family and friends when he got back.
In no-plague times, I can see wanting the ceremony and the party. But, especially in the early days of the pandemic, when death rates were so high and everything was uncertain, I didn't (still don't) understand why people postponed and delayed weddings--were they really prepared to live with potentially not marrying the person they loved because, by the gods, they wanted the dream party to go with it? We weren't; I guess others are.
That's my feeling, too. COVID would not have stopped me from marrying my husband. I get that not everyone feels that way, though...
I had the big wedding for my mom. It made her happy. I would have been perfectly content to do what my sister later did: she and her husband were married on a beach, with only the officiant and his wife present as a witness. It would have been a lot less stressful (I'm not big on being the center of attention) and I would have been able to actually relax and "be present" for the ceremony - instead of being nervous and self-conscious the whole time. (I was a lot more shy and anxious when I was younger. The older I get, the more I mellow, thank goodness!) It was a whirlwind and I feel almost like I missed most of it. So honestly, if I'd have had to cancel my wedding due to COVID, I'd have simply eloped instead. It would have been a good excuse to avoid the big event without hurting my mom's feelings. Just being honest...11 -
This is the only way to really get herd immunity and convinced people to get vaccinated. Don't you think ?
https://news.yahoo.com/highly-contagious-delta-coronavirus-variant-193159529.html
News like this seems to be motivating some but a high level of protection would still be 6 weeks away. Being twice as transmissible the case numbers can double ever 7-10 days and this is one reason it zapped India so hard and fast. One case in a home typically means the rest will have it.
Having both Covid-19 shots seems to offer 88% protection but just having the first 💉 offers 33% protection.
I personally think mast use is more important now than ever.4 -
Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
At this point they should just lift the mask mandates it’s getting ridiculous everyone has the opportunity to get their vaccine let us have a normal life ffs.
I would love the 7 people who disagreed with this to think about how it would feel having to cancel their wedding for the THIRD time in a year because it is scheduled literally 7 days before the probable full provincial reopening goes into effect. Even though every guest will be fully vaccinated. It sucks.
If it's just the masks I would try to come up with some way to incorporate them into the wedding, like lace-covered masks in the wedding colors for everyone. If there are attendance restrictions, then that just sucks.
Well if the mask restrictions are in place then that means that you can only remove your mask for eating, and there is no dancing, and tables are restricted to single households. So basically you go to the wedding, sit at the table with your family, and if you get up from your table you have to wear your mask.
It is doable, we went to a Christening last year under those circumstances, but hosting a wedding is not cheap, my son and his fiancee are in their 30's, and spending that kind of money to have a 125 people sit around at tables and not be able to socialize and enjoy the evening isn't how they want to remember their wedding day.
There are attendance restriction as well, but they are willing to go down to 75 people if need be.9 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »I can't help but feel that people who would consider a wedding ruined because people have to wear masks would always find something to be unhappy about -- the weather was bad, the flowers weren't perfect, something was wrong with the cake, the food, the DJ, the band.
I've been to weddings where people made drunken scenes or fist fights broke out involving immediate family of bride and groom. The couples are still happily married, and people still have good memories of other parts of the day.
It's not just the masks - they had a big party planned with all their friends and relatives - and having everyone confined to sitting at their tables masked for the entire reception ( no dancing and socializing ) isn't their idea of a fun or memorable wedding.8 -
Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
At this point they should just lift the mask mandates it’s getting ridiculous everyone has the opportunity to get their vaccine let us have a normal life ffs.
I would love the 7 people who disagreed with this to think about how it would feel having to cancel their wedding for the THIRD time in a year because it is scheduled literally 7 days before the probable full provincial reopening goes into effect. Even though every guest will be fully vaccinated. It sucks.
Will they not allow an outdoor wedding? If all the guests are fully vaccinated and the wedding and reception are outdoors, I think it's absolutely asinine if it's still not allowed. Apparently, the scientific experts are OK with it. Not sure why it wouldn't be OK with the local officials, too. The risk is low. That's frustrating.
Yes my other son (who had to cancel his January wedding in Mexico) is getting married at an outdoor venue (hopefully) in August. Although we still don't know what the restrictions will be, they are going ahead with the planning on that one with the assumption that 50 people will be allowed for an outdoor wedding and reception.
The problem with the September wedding (other son) is that they began their planning and booked their venue and vendors for last September, and have paid substantial deposits for everything for a 125 person reception. Had the planning began AFTER the pandemic started they would have done it differently, but most vendors will let you postpone, but won't give refunds if you cancel. So it went from September 2020, to May 2021, to September 2021 ... and who knows now. They could certainly cancel and lose their deposits, but they already lost a ton of money when the had to cancel the 3 week honeymoon in Europe that they had planned.
I get that other people have had it worse and it's not like anyone died - but it still sucks and is stressful.12 -
kshama2001 wrote: »(Disclaimer: not knocking anyone who actually enjoys big weddings; just sharing MY experience and opinion.)
I got married (to my now-ex husband) in Okinawa in the late 80s. We were both in the military. We first had to do a bunch of stuff on base, then had to run around getting paperwork signed at various places off base, where there was a considerable language barrier. We had Iron Maiden's "Somewhere in Time" cassette on a loop the whole time. After the last stop, we looked at each other and said, "I guess we're married now?" and exchanged rings.
I hate big social events like weddings and will always have fond memories of this. And my legal marriage certificate in in Japanese, which is fun.
I'm trying to figure out how to get my next marriage as small as possible. Thinking Justice of the Peace. But my Mom wants to go, and my sister, and then we'd have to invite his brother (and family.) Ack.
My husband and I were both in the military, too--we had the "marriage in minutes" in a Virginia courthouse in the early 90s, immediately followed by a sign-off by a marriage broker. We wanted to be married to each other before he went to Kosovo, so we did. We had a large party for family and friends when he got back.
In no-plague times, I can see wanting the ceremony and the party. But, especially in the early days of the pandemic, when death rates were so high and everything was uncertain, I didn't (still don't) understand why people postponed and delayed weddings--were they really prepared to live with potentially not marrying the person they loved because, by the gods, they wanted the dream party to go with it? We weren't; I guess others are.
The wedding was planned, and substantial non-refundable deposits were made, before the pandemic was even a thing. They can postpone, but they can't cancel and get their money back.3 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »Apparently getting vaccinated isn’t enough where I live - they have extended the mask mandates until end of September. Looks Ike my son is going to have to postpone his wedding for a third time. The most annoying thing about it is that it is scheduled for Sep 24 so if they do lift it Oct 1 then we miss being able to do a normal wedding by a week - but probably won’t get another date until next year.
At this point they should just lift the mask mandates it’s getting ridiculous everyone has the opportunity to get their vaccine let us have a normal life ffs.
I would love the 7 people who disagreed with this to think about how it would feel having to cancel their wedding for the THIRD time in a year because it is scheduled literally 7 days before the probable full provincial reopening goes into effect. Even though every guest will be fully vaccinated. It sucks.
33gail33 - if I remember correctly you are in Ontario? if so, I can totally relate to your frustration. not sure people outside Ontario/Canada know just how bad we have had it here. the rest of the world has been opening up around us for MONTHS and here we can't go to the gym/get a haircut/go to a restaurant/play outdoor sports.
even more frustrating is the constantly shifting goal posts - Ontario has far surpassed the "goals" to be much closer to a reopening (still nowhere near a full reopening) and just as we reach the milestone they move the goalpost.
so I can totally relate to the frustration of thinking something is going to happen (for me it has been the gym and baseball season) only to be told again and again that the timeline is changing (with no good justification - our covid cases are in the 200's for a population of 15 million+)
Yes I'm in Ontario - Dougie just loves to keep us hanging eh?
The most frustrating part is just the not knowing. I mean we could cancel based on the information we have, and then they could change their minds and open up anyway at the last minute.5 -
kshama2001 wrote: »(Disclaimer: not knocking anyone who actually enjoys big weddings; just sharing MY experience and opinion.)
I got married (to my now-ex husband) in Okinawa in the late 80s. We were both in the military. We first had to do a bunch of stuff on base, then had to run around getting paperwork signed at various places off base, where there was a considerable language barrier. We had Iron Maiden's "Somewhere in Time" cassette on a loop the whole time. After the last stop, we looked at each other and said, "I guess we're married now?" and exchanged rings.
I hate big social events like weddings and will always have fond memories of this. And my legal marriage certificate in in Japanese, which is fun.
I'm trying to figure out how to get my next marriage as small as possible. Thinking Justice of the Peace. But my Mom wants to go, and my sister, and then we'd have to invite his brother (and family.) Ack.
My husband and I were both in the military, too--we had the "marriage in minutes" in a Virginia courthouse in the early 90s, immediately followed by a sign-off by a marriage broker. We wanted to be married to each other before he went to Kosovo, so we did. We had a large party for family and friends when he got back.
In no-plague times, I can see wanting the ceremony and the party. But, especially in the early days of the pandemic, when death rates were so high and everything was uncertain, I didn't (still don't) understand why people postponed and delayed weddings--were they really prepared to live with potentially not marrying the person they loved because, by the gods, they wanted the dream party to go with it? We weren't; I guess others are.
That's my feeling, too. COVID would not have stopped me from marrying my husband. I get that not everyone feels that way, though...
I had the big wedding for my mom. It made her happy. I would have been perfectly content to do what my sister later did: she and her husband were married on a beach, with only the officiant and his wife present as a witness. It would have been a lot less stressful (I'm not big on being the center of attention) and I would have been able to actually relax and "be present" for the ceremony - instead of being nervous and self-conscious the whole time. (I was a lot more shy and anxious when I was younger. The older I get, the more I mellow, thank goodness!) It was a whirlwind and I feel almost like I missed most of it. So honestly, if I'd have had to cancel my wedding due to COVID, I'd have simply eloped instead. It would have been a good excuse to avoid the big event without hurting my mom's feelings. Just being honest...
I'm the mom and I assure you the big wedding is not for me - I would be just as happy for them if they eloped. My son wanted a big wedding celebration, with all his friends and family, and that is what they had planned. They would rather wait and have the wedding they want the way they planned it then do it a different way. I mean it's not like Covid is going to stop them from marrying each other, they are postponing not cancelling.3 -
My daughter in UK postponed her wedding, originally for last August, but venue etc already booked before pandemic hit.
Postponed for a year with the hope overseas visitors would then be able to come.
I didn't see this as some slur on them not wanting to be married
Unfortunately Australian borders still closed so it will be going ahead next month but we will still not be able to attend.16 -
I always figure that if I fet married, it will be something small. In some states, you don't need anyone to officiate - just need to sign the paperwork and have witnesses. Colorado is one of those states, and one could quite literally get married with almost nobody around for miles out in the wilderness.5
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Paperpudding, might it be possible for someone to arrange a video link to the venue for you. I know its so very far from being able to be here but might help. I'm surprised its not been suggested. Time difference could mean a late night or would it be early morning for you.
I'm sure many a couple want to make the big public statement of their "commitment" to each other which matters.
I'm glad we are required to have registrars, or "qualified" celebrants be they religious or I hope by now someone who provides a non religious exchange of words for those to whom that also matters. I hate the idea of creeping out into the back yard, then filling in paperwork. Call me suspicious, I see coercion, the path to abuse lies here.2 -
As far as I know there is not a livestream of the wedding fuzzipeg.
We will have to see photos and videos afterward. It is what it is.6 -
Paperpudding, might it be possible for someone to arrange a video link to the venue for you. I know its so very far from being able to be here but might help. I'm surprised its not been suggested. Time difference could mean a late night or would it be early morning for you.
I'm sure many a couple want to make the big public statement of their "commitment" to each other which matters.
I'm glad we are required to have registrars, or "qualified" celebrants be they religious or I hope by now someone who provides a non religious exchange of words for those to whom that also matters. I hate the idea of creeping out into the back yard, then filling in paperwork. Call me suspicious, I see coercion, the path to abuse lies here.
I'm not quite getting what you mean here, but I'm super intrigued. Hoping you could elaborate on this statement. What's the coercion/abuse about? Creeping out to the backyard and filling out paperwork? I might lack some cultural context...?5 -
Paperpudding, might it be possible for someone to arrange a video link to the venue for you. I know its so very far from being able to be here but might help. I'm surprised its not been suggested. Time difference could mean a late night or would it be early morning for you.
I'm sure many a couple want to make the big public statement of their "commitment" to each other which matters.
I'm glad we are required to have registrars, or "qualified" celebrants be they religious or I hope by now someone who provides a non religious exchange of words for those to whom that also matters. I hate the idea of creeping out into the back yard, then filling in paperwork. Call me suspicious, I see coercion, the path to abuse lies here.
I'm not quite getting what you mean here, but I'm super intrigued. Hoping you could elaborate on this statement. What's the coercion/abuse about? Creeping out to the backyard and filling out paperwork? I might lack some cultural context...?
I wondered about that too. Possible reference to my story about my friend who chose to marry while barefoot in her backyard?
Back to covid: active cases are way down here, only 9 new positives today; but there were 3 deaths. Of course, I don't know if they were rare cases of serious illness while vaccinated or weren't vaccinated. Either way, it's sad that there are deaths still.3
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