SAD ---> Happy

what are you going on about now?

why restrict ANY food, unless you have a medical reason to do so (diabetes, high blood pressure, kidney failure, etc)

I've lost almost 200 pounds now, eating pretty much anything I want to. Just by counting calories. Learning how much to eat. Becoming more active. you know .... eat less. move more. ive had a reeses peanut butter cup the past 3 nights in a row. in bed. right before i went to sleep. the horror.

and my bloodwork/labs? Checked every month due to meds I'm on.

textbook perfect blood pressure. glucose. cholesterol. nutrients. electrolytes.

or am i cranky and just not understanding your post? i hope so. if so, im sorry. maybe i need a peanut butter cup LOL

So, just a random, "Keep doing what you're doing."

Okay.

Thank you.

I was at a family dinner last night and have lost @ 25 pounds since I saw some of them. My cousin asked me how I lost weight and I said "Eating less."

Everyone laughed, presumably because it is so true, but media has conditioned us to expect an answer like vegan, keto, low fat, high fat, or IF.

My other cousin said that every time he tries to lose weight he gets so hungry. So then I talked about satiety, and macros, and the importance of find the right macro balance that helps a particular person stay in a calorie deficit.

tsazani wrote: »

You just made my point. Thank you.

"I've lost almost 200 pounds now, eating pretty much anything I want to. Just by counting calories."

No, that's not what you said. It may've been what you meant, but if so, it was not at all clear.

You said (quoting a relevant part, my bolding):

All FOOD restrictive diets are FAR better than SAD. E.g. Vegan, keto, low calorie, low fat, high fat, etc. This is where the silly RELIGIOUS wars occur.

When food type restriction is not enough (99% of diets fail) one should restrict TIME. Time restriction CAN work even while eating SAD.

Food *type* restriction, or the named diets in the paragraph above what I bolded, are not synonymous with calorie counting.

I lost weight eating the same food *types* I did when obese, and maintain the same way. Yes, I restrict portions, proportions or frequencies of some foods to manage calories . . . but not types.

There have been party-trick-type n=1 experiments where people have intentionally lost weight literally eating versions of SAD, AFAIK without TRE. I wouldn't care to do that personally, but I didn't get fat eating SAD, either. Eating some version of SAD, in theory, is not incompatible with weight management, with or without TRE. (As a practical matter, I think it has limitations for weight management for many people, TRE or not.)

Note: I have nothing against TRE, for people whom it benefits. I have nothing against any way of eating anyone chooses that's generally compatible with adequate overall nutrition and reasonable health.

I'm not going to make a case that SAD is good for health. That's partly because SAD is a stereotype, a cartoon - not a thing that can be pinned down enough to have a rational discussion about. SAD's sort of the opposite to "eating clean" . . . both such squishy constructs that they're not worth trying to prove or disprove propositions about, with *a lot* of clarification.

AnnPT77 wrote: »

tsazani wrote: »

You just made my point. Thank you.

"I've lost almost 200 pounds now, eating pretty much anything I want to. Just by counting calories."

No, that's not what you said. It may've been what you meant, but if so, it was not at all clear.

I'm just glad I am not alone in my confusion cause I'm still over here wishing I had a peanut butter cup.

string cheese had to suffice.

JBanx256 wrote: »

SuzySunshine99 wrote: »

there's no such thing as a "Standard American".

June Cleaver maybe? Beyond that...beats TF outta me what this guy is on about now.

i got nuthin banxie boy. want some sting cheese?

or is that not real food too? I mean, we do live on a farm. Technically i COULD make my own cheese. Well, not right now. I dont have any goats that are lactating and even when we have cattle, they're beef cattle and not dairy cattle, but babies happen on occasion but the milk isn't really human dairy quality, you know? Was it Wendys or Burger King that had the commercial 'Where's the Beef'? Now I want a hamburger. I'm only at 601 calories for today. That probably explains a lot.

Bacon cheeseburger 🤤 …all focus gone. What was the topic again?

Speaking of peanut butter cups, I need my supermarket to bring back the SINGLE package with DARK chocolate. All I can get locally is PACKAGES of dark chocolate THINS, which don't have the right chocolate to peanut butter ratio, and have too many calories per package.

I was eyeing all the Halloween peanut butter cups, and none of them were dark chocolate

callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »

NerdyScienceGrl wrote: »

Bacon cheeseburger 🤤 …all focus gone. What was the topic again?

i don know, i was busy pre logging a bacon cheeseburger for dinner tomorrow LOL

Well, as far as the OP goes, I lost 50 pounds on mostly processed food and very little exercise, and all my health markers returned to normal range. Not the healthiest diet, but a full time job plus a 4 hour daily commute kind of limited my options. Calorie counting worked just fine for me without fasting or restricting particular food groups, in fact I'm pretty sure I would have failed at the weight loss if I tried to impose extra rules on top of just minding my portions (i.e. calorie counting).

tsazani wrote: »

Re: That SAD + fasting can work?

Like most I'm not a fan of the SAD (i.e. frucose laden processed food).

It can be done. You need a high "hunger tolerance" however.

What the heck is "frucose"?? Do you mean "fructose"? From Wikipedia "The word "fructose" was coined in 1857 from the Latin for fructus (fruit)...". You don't think fruit is healthy? If typical "SAD" food such as processed meat doesn't contain fructose is it then not considered "SAD"? So many questions!

edited for grammar

You do know there are Atkins frozen meals and processed snacks, righ? Things like "Atkins Peanut Caramel Cluster Bar" for instance.