Coronavirus prep

Discussion on medical ethics of delisting anti-vaxxers from transplant lists:

@T1DCarnivoreRunner Thanks for sharing that information. As a Mass resident, this was the topic of a morning radio talk show this past week. The host is also that anti-Vax radio host that I have mentioned once before, so it is easy for you to imagine his position.

One point he felt was key, but I felt might be open to other interpretations, was that the gentleman was told that the reason he was required to take the vaccination was that he "could die even from a cold post surgery" and therefore he needed the vaccine. The host's extrapolation was that therefore the vaccination itself could kill the man and therefore it was wrong to require it. What I saw in this statement was that this man was already so fragile that a cold could kill him and therefore he either needs as much protection as possible or alternatively that his is so fragile that he is already at a low risk of survival and maybe this organ is at risk of being wasted. The other point the host was making was that each vaccination has that risk of heart inflammation and that if this gentleman were vaccinated the vaccine could kill him with his already weekend heart. I think this twitter thread possibly fields that question in its statement that vaccine risk is much lower than the jeopardy he is already in from his heart condition.

As @reeniehj stated, I do not envy those in the position of making these determinations. I would not be able to handle that responsibility.

On another note, that I don't recall seeing in the twitter feed, is that the man/patient was approved for a mechanical device that can assist for potentially 5 years (this was stated in the radio broadcast). Who knows what might happen during this time that might get him back on the transplant list?

SModa61 wrote: »

^ this is what I am describing when I mention an empty section. This happens to be a cat food section.

That looks like early pandemic days...definitely don't have that going on here. I just went grocery shopping yesterday afternoon after my gym session and everything was stocked full...crazy

SummerSkier wrote: »

To me that looks like a snowmegeddon grocery shelf. We are due to possibly have an ice storm and pretty cold weather late next week. I am going to shop tomorrow because by Tues and Wed there will be no milk, bread or water because well we might have ice for 6 hrs before it melts.

I would totally agree with you as this week preceded, but things have been almost this bad since late 2021 so at least in my local S&S they are being impacted somehow - staff, shipments? not sure

AnnPT77 wrote: »

SModa61 wrote: »

SummerSkier wrote: »

To me that looks like a snowmegeddon grocery shelf. We are due to possibly have an ice storm and pretty cold weather late next week. I am going to shop tomorrow because by Tues and Wed there will be no milk, bread or water because well we might have ice for 6 hrs before it melts.

I would totally agree with you as this week preceded, but things have been almost this bad since late 2021 so at least in my local S&S they are being impacted somehow - staff, shipments? not sure

Since we're getting different reports from different parts of the US about whether and which items are short, plus some shelves depleted in a store while others full, it seems more likely to be shipment/supply chain issues, IMO . . . or hoarding, which was a factor (though not the whole story) in the early paper-goods shortages IMU.

I haven't had pets in a while . . . I know lots of pet toys are foreign sourced, are foods often foreign sourced, too? With the weather weirdness in the US, and staffing shortages not only in stores but also in trucking and presumably in manufacturing and distribution, I'm sure there are domestic problems with supply chains, too, but we know there are still international ones.

I remember early on that aluminum was an issue and therefore making cans was an issue. One of my preferred cat food manufacturers is no longer making/selling cat food. The may resume at a later date but that is still TBD. There is likely an overseas issue as well.

ahoy_m8 wrote: »

Greetings, all. Anyone in the US who ordered government test hear anything about shipping? I ordered 1/12 and other than immediate confirmation email have not heard (or received) a thing.

I just got mine today. My sister and my brother got theirs a few days ago.
We all received an e-mail notice from the post office shortly before delivery....I got an email at 7am this morning, and they were delivered around 10am.
They are a separate package delivery from USPS, so may not come with your regular mail.

I have a little observation on the free test kits. Ordered a set for Massachusetts family one minute before ordering a set for us to be delivered us in Florida. The florida set that were ordered the one minute later, were delivered yesterday (had to have a neighbor help us out and hold for us). I have not even gotten a shipping notification for the Massachusetts set as yet. So, IMM the delivery state is some sort of factor in the prioritization of the shipments.

I am in GA- I got mine a few days ago-- and some other folks who ordered theirs have already received them

SuzySunshine99 wrote: »

I don't know if the state matters...everyone I know in Illinois who ordered them all on the same day had really different delivery schedules. Some got theirs a week ago, some still haven't. All the same state, all the same order day.

Either it's random, or has more to do with the speed of your local post office.

BTW, no one I know got a "shipping" notification...just a delivery notice on the day of arrival.

I wonder if that's related to having signed up for the emails that pre-notify a person what mail to expect? Are you signed up for those? I get notified of most (all?) USPS packages as part of that process, including separate emails about packages.

AnnPT77 wrote: »

SuzySunshine99 wrote: »

I don't know if the state matters...everyone I know in Illinois who ordered them all on the same day had really different delivery schedules. Some got theirs a week ago, some still haven't. All the same state, all the same order day.

Either it's random, or has more to do with the speed of your local post office.

BTW, no one I know got a "shipping" notification...just a delivery notice on the day of arrival.

I wonder if that's related to having signed up for the emails that pre-notify a person what mail to expect? Are you signed up for those? I get notified of most (all?) USPS packages as part of that process, including separate emails about packages.

Informed delivery. Yes, my husband has that and he gets a daily email regarding what to expect in today's mail.

But, this notice came to my email, which I had used to order the tests, and don't use for any other USPS account.

It's strange, seems like everyone is having a different experience with it.

My in-laws ordered their tests then tested positive locally for covid. Two days left in my MIL's quarantine their tests came in....a little late to be of use!

I don't know when she ordered them, but it was before FIL was positive.

I ordered them the first day I read about the link on the news. Got an 'expected delivery date' email last week and an 'out for delivery' email on Monday. I'm in South Dakota. My Texan sister got hers the Saturday before.

Mine came yesterday 2/3 here in TX. They came from a distribution site in San Antonio. It seems like the location of the distribution site and the post office it goes through would make a difference.

For example, late 2020 when I lived in west TN, my packages were delayed going through the Memphis USPS. This was one of the facilities where mail sorting equipment was removed. One example is something I bought online in August. I saw it track from Texas to Memphis, then stop. Eventually the tracking detail changed to lost. But the package showed up in Jan 2021. There were other similar situations, just an example.