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rheddmobile wrote: »@kimny72 I agree about long covid not being worth the risk.
There’s a theory that long covid is caused at least partly by reactivation of Epstein-Barr virus, based on blood testing of people who got long covid versus those who had covid but recovered fully being more likely to have reactivated Epstein-Barr in their blood. I have not had good luck with my immune system and Epstein-Barr in the past - I developed lupus following a severe bout of mono in my 20s. My early lupus symptoms, which went undiagnosed for a decade, sound very much like what long Covid victims are reporting. Crushing fatigue, weird problems with racing heart, muscle tremors. I read an article about long Covid and muscle tremors the other day and it sounded so familiar to me, I would be unable to sleep for days at a time because some part of my body was just vibrating and wouldn’t stop. I had been so active before and was so disabled after. For me, eventually, decades later, the lupus has mostly quieted down, but I did have a flare following each of my Covid shots, which makes me suspect that actually having Covid would cause a full on resurgence of the lupus. Trust me, you do not want this.
Interesting, thanks. I've heard some researchers theorizing that long covid will turn out to be an autoimmune disorder based on the symptoms sounding so much like what patients trying to get a diagnosis for lupus or RA etc often present with. And autoimmune disorders are most common in middle aged women. So I wonder if it "causes" a disorder or just activates or reactivates something that was already there.
A friend's school age son had covid with very mild cold symptoms, but months later he gets tired really easily and struggles focusing, all new for him. She has an autoimmune disorder and recognized the symptoms. Concerned that the disorder is genetic and like you mentioned, maybe covid actvated it.7 -
Ok, all. What counts as "middle age"? As I get older, that sounds more and more confusing. When do I cross out and classify as old? I am 60 now.
I do think these definitions have changed over the decades.4 -
rheddmobile wrote: »My husband had to pick up horse feed at the tractor store yesterday and he commented that more shoppers were openly carrying firearms (six) than wearing masks (two, counting him.)
Maybe they think they can shoot COVID?3 -
Ok, all. What counts as "middle age"? As I get older, that sounds more and more confusing. When do I cross out and classify as old? I am 60 now.
I do think these definitions have changed over the decades.
I don't know if there's a sciencey answer to that question, but I think it's typically used in this sort of classification as not a young adult but not a senior. Or sometimes with women I think it assumes the upper cutoff is menopausal. So in my head it's 30ish to 60ish. Which is probably not helpful to you
ETA: Britannica says 40-60.
And I found a 20 yr old research paper that defined the study groups as young adult (18-35), middle-aged(35-55), and older-adult (55+).
ETAA: It's quite possible that long covid is more likely in women in general, but it "seems" more prevalent in middle age because young women are less likely to report symptoms or seek care, and older women were more likely to have a serious case, which makes the dividing line between "i had covid for 6 months" and "I had long covid after covid" fuzzier.2 -
Yesterday in the UK there was a report of someone with a severely compromised immune system who had covid for 7 months of continuous positive testing had been given a covid vaccine and was reported to be doing well and now clear. It seems the vaccine gave the person the ability to make the required t-cells and other required attributes to combat the Virus. I do not know at which stage of the pandemic this person was first taken ill, I would think before the vaccination was first made available.
I follow the Epstein Bar idea aligned to long covid. In my view so very many of the symptoms of long covid appear on lists for autoimmune conditions too. Then many who recover have deficiencies in some vitamins and minerasl.
Its sad so many are not wearing masks now. (I'm glad I don't live where more people openly carry arms) I reported we were not having our case numbers reported, I'm now thinking I had missed that weeks announcement. The numbers announced last weekend, our case numbers went up from 2000's into the 3000's up by over an actual 3rd, can't remember the actual number, that thought left me stunned. I'm in a local authority area where they say 1 in 20 of us have it!!! I fear I heard 1 in 14 have it in Scotland. But we are confidently told, the pandemic is over, I don't think those with severely compromised immune systems are likely to be so confident like the first person I mentioned.
Carry on, do what you feel comfortable with. Take care and Keep safe.2 -
@kimny72 Thanks for the insights. Yup, 60 and finished menopause in 2010, I guess I am that "older adult" that looks back in the mirror.
@Fuzzipeg - Masks? I am guilty of currently not wearing them, but I am in the Florida keys. Lots of activity, and even dining, is outside. Our condo has a 24 ft slider on one wall with and adjoining 8 ft slider so we can be "outside" while "inside". Just looked at the Monroe Sounty cases, and last reporting of any cases was March 13th. When we head back to Massachusetts in May, odds are masks and such will be returning for me.0 -
SModa61, you sound to be in a lovely area. I know places are very different case rates vary so very much thankfully. I hope this summer can bring down our local cases though I'm not very hopeful, there are so many people who come to our area for days or week or more. I know covid not as bad as the first version but its sad the way we have to live with it now.
Thinking architecture, I don't recognise the term "slider" might we call it/them sliding doors or full length sliding windows. Sounds wonderful to have so much light where one is staying. Have a very good stay.0 -
SModa61, you sound to be in a lovely area. I know places are very different case rates vary so very much thankfully. I hope this summer can bring down our local cases though I'm not very hopeful, there are so many people who come to our area for days or week or more. I know covid not as bad as the first version but its sad the way we have to live with it now.
Thinking architecture, I don't recognise the term "slider" might we call it/them sliding doors or full length sliding windows. Sounds wonderful to have so much light where one is staying. Have a very good stay.
Indeed, sliding glass door would be more correct. It does give meaning to the expression "living in glass houses". We are right on the very populated harbor, so I try and watch what I am wearing when in the living room/dining room/kitchen as the effect of the "invisible wall" (as it is also called) would be ruined by window treatments.
Stay safe. Stay well!
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SModa61, you sound to be in a lovely area. I know places are very different case rates vary so very much thankfully. I hope this summer can bring down our local cases though I'm not very hopeful, there are so many people who come to our area for days or week or more. I know covid not as bad as the first version but its sad the way we have to live with it now.
Thinking architecture, I don't recognise the term "slider" might we call it/them sliding doors or full length sliding windows. Sounds wonderful to have so much light where one is staying. Have a very good stay.
Indeed, sliding glass door would be more correct. It does give meaning to the expression "living in glass houses". We are right on the very populated harbor, so I try and watch what I am wearing when in the living room/dining room/kitchen as the effect of the "invisible wall" (as it is also called) would be ruined by window treatments.
Stay safe. Stay well!
The indoor/outdoor thing sounds delightful, but having visited Florida, I am picturing lizards on the dining room table!2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »SModa61, you sound to be in a lovely area. I know places are very different case rates vary so very much thankfully. I hope this summer can bring down our local cases though I'm not very hopeful, there are so many people who come to our area for days or week or more. I know covid not as bad as the first version but its sad the way we have to live with it now.
Thinking architecture, I don't recognise the term "slider" might we call it/them sliding doors or full length sliding windows. Sounds wonderful to have so much light where one is staying. Have a very good stay.
Indeed, sliding glass door would be more correct. It does give meaning to the expression "living in glass houses". We are right on the very populated harbor, so I try and watch what I am wearing when in the living room/dining room/kitchen as the effect of the "invisible wall" (as it is also called) would be ruined by window treatments.
Stay safe. Stay well!
The indoor/outdoor thing sounds delightful, but having visited Florida, I am picturing lizards on the dining room table!
80 ft of screened balcony block the cute lizards that DL thinks should not join us inside. My cats would be thrilled if they did.5 -
Thank you, both.0
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kshama2001 wrote: »Is anyone else planning to continue (permanently, for now) anything you started doing during the pandemic, that you didn't do previously? I was thinking about this, this morning.
I'll probably keep buying milk a few cartons at a time, instead of just one, and freezing them: I think it reduces grocery trip frequency, so reduces gas use a tiny bit, as well as requiring less time. Probably ditto for lemon/lime wedges I like in my morning iced matcha, which I can cut up then freeze rather than keeping a smaller number of the fresh fruits on hand.
This is all "luxury trivia" of privilege, though. I admittedly - so far, fingers crossed - have a pretty pleasant, uncomplicated life, including (speaking relative to others) during the pandemic.
It makes me wonder, though, if others have stumbled over convenient or happy life changes that are worth continuing.
While I am open to 100% remote work or non-office work, I plan to never work in an office again.
Seems like the universe is testing my resolve on this plan, as I found out about a local office job opening yesterday. I had to remind myself that it is full time and I can only do part time, I've worn makeup about twice in the past two years and like it that way, and I haven't had a job where I needed to wear business casual since 2008 and I have only one pair of pants that would be appropriate. I realized this last when I was looking for something to wear to a funeral recently.10 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Is anyone else planning to continue (permanently, for now) anything you started doing during the pandemic, that you didn't do previously? I was thinking about this, this morning.
I'll probably keep buying milk a few cartons at a time, instead of just one, and freezing them: I think it reduces grocery trip frequency, so reduces gas use a tiny bit, as well as requiring less time. Probably ditto for lemon/lime wedges I like in my morning iced matcha, which I can cut up then freeze rather than keeping a smaller number of the fresh fruits on hand.
This is all "luxury trivia" of privilege, though. I admittedly - so far, fingers crossed - have a pretty pleasant, uncomplicated life, including (speaking relative to others) during the pandemic.
It makes me wonder, though, if others have stumbled over convenient or happy life changes that are worth continuing.
While I am open to 100% remote work or non-office work, I plan to never work in an office again.
Sounds like most offices are wanting people back at least part time so looks like you won't be working in an office.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Is anyone else planning to continue (permanently, for now) anything you started doing during the pandemic, that you didn't do previously? I was thinking about this, this morning.
I'll probably keep buying milk a few cartons at a time, instead of just one, and freezing them: I think it reduces grocery trip frequency, so reduces gas use a tiny bit, as well as requiring less time. Probably ditto for lemon/lime wedges I like in my morning iced matcha, which I can cut up then freeze rather than keeping a smaller number of the fresh fruits on hand.
This is all "luxury trivia" of privilege, though. I admittedly - so far, fingers crossed - have a pretty pleasant, uncomplicated life, including (speaking relative to others) during the pandemic.
It makes me wonder, though, if others have stumbled over convenient or happy life changes that are worth continuing.
While I am open to 100% remote work or non-office work, I plan to never work in an office again.
Sounds like most offices are wanting people back at least part time so looks like you won't be working in an office.
A business can "want" something, but it doesn't mean it's going to get it. Most business would likely be happy to have all their employees work for free. Not likely they'll get it.3 -
I was listening to an interview with the Surgeon General and he was asked about long covid. He said we do not know enough about it yet. But he said the data suggests that the more severe case of covid one has, the more likely to end up with some form of long covid. Data also suggests that vaccination does lower risk of long covid, even if you get infected, but does not eliminate it. He said that he understands why some people are still trying to avoid infection because of long covid, and hopes they can get more answers soon.
This lines up pretty well with what I've heard on TWIV (though I'm a bit behind in TWIV episodes, I needed a break lol).8 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Is anyone else planning to continue (permanently, for now) anything you started doing during the pandemic, that you didn't do previously? I was thinking about this, this morning.
I'll probably keep buying milk a few cartons at a time, instead of just one, and freezing them: I think it reduces grocery trip frequency, so reduces gas use a tiny bit, as well as requiring less time. Probably ditto for lemon/lime wedges I like in my morning iced matcha, which I can cut up then freeze rather than keeping a smaller number of the fresh fruits on hand.
This is all "luxury trivia" of privilege, though. I admittedly - so far, fingers crossed - have a pretty pleasant, uncomplicated life, including (speaking relative to others) during the pandemic.
It makes me wonder, though, if others have stumbled over convenient or happy life changes that are worth continuing.
While I am open to 100% remote work or non-office work, I plan to never work in an office again.
Sounds like most offices are wanting people back at least part time so looks like you won't be working in an office.
A business can "want" something, but it doesn't mean it's going to get it. Most business would likely be happy to have all their employees work for free. Not likely they'll get it.
People that want good jobs will go back if that is what the employer requires.
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am I a lone wolf? I like being back in the office. I only stay remote when Covid is spiking. When I saw it dropping again I went back in mid Feb. If it spikes up again I will go remote. The flexibility is important to me. Of course I have a very short commute also.7
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SummerSkier wrote: »am I a lone wolf? I like being back in the office. I only stay remote when Covid is spiking. When I saw it dropping again I went back in mid Feb. If it spikes up again I will go remote. The flexibility is important to me. Of course I have a very short commute also.
Commute may be part of the reason why you like it. Plus it can be a social time as well as work.
I have 2 dds, 1 of them has a job that'd be truly difficult doing remotely. The other dd wishes she could work remotely more because she finds it less distracting than being in her office. And they both live an hour away from their job. That's a lot of your whole day taken up by driving alone.2 -
SummerSkier wrote: »am I a lone wolf? I like being back in the office. I only stay remote when Covid is spiking. When I saw it dropping again I went back in mid Feb. If it spikes up again I will go remote. The flexibility is important to me. Of course I have a very short commute also.
Nah, I'm in that pack too. Short commute here also, 10 - 15 minutes depending on traffic. I've never worked from home although roughly 80% of my office did at various points. I definitely like being at the office much better with less people in it In all seriousness, I think keeping my normal routine helped preserve my mental health during this whole thing, I need structure and stability to my days.6 -
SummerSkier wrote: »am I a lone wolf? I like being back in the office. I only stay remote when Covid is spiking. When I saw it dropping again I went back in mid Feb. If it spikes up again I will go remote. The flexibility is important to me. Of course I have a very short commute also.
One of my friends has really high needs for interpersonal interaction, a "people person" in terms of what she needs to stay happy or contented. Work from home orders and interaction limitations were very, very stressful for her. She was back in the office at the very first hint of permission to be there, finding it better for her psychologically even though there were only a couple of other people rattling around in an office space designed to house dozens. She's well over 65, hasn't retired for pretty much that same reason - she'd be financially able, has other hobbies, etc., so those things don't prevent retirement as they do for some.
Me, I've been pretty happy hibernating at home, as an introvert who grew up as an only child, in the country - have lots of hobbies, practice at self-entertainment. I'd prefer to have more social interaction than I have these last couple of years, but I'm not suffering because of it, particularly. (I retired at 51, never been sorry - not because of introversion, more out of concern I'd get metastatic cancer and die before retirement if I didn't retire as soon as practical. Some parts of my former job - in IT management - would've been more difficult in a WFH world, I think. People generically are wired to form social bonds via in-person contact, IMO. But other than that, I'd have been fine with WFH.)
I think this "personality style" stuff is pretty important, in how people respond to work from home, whether they want to continue it, or not.
That's in addition to the obvious effect of how people feel politically or medically about the pandemic and mitigation measures, too: Looking around at my circle of relatives and acquaintances, those who feel the restrictions are unnecessary, maybe even nefariously motivated, seem more psychologically stressed by restrictions. Those who are objectively more vulnerable (immune compromised, say) or subjectively more cautious/fearful by personality, seem more stressed by restrictions being relaxed.
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