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tomcustombuilder wrote: »
a sustainable diet in the US is only as unhealthy as you make it and done properly it does not result in weight gain. Just because someone isnt doing KETO does not mean they’re automatically doing an unhealthy diet.rileysowner wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »I’m assuming you regained weight after KETO. You may want to consider a diet that you can permanently maintain. Most people doing KETO are unable to maintain it then go off of it and regain the weight and sometimes more.
The mindset many times is the weight is off so “job done” and go back to their old eating habits when in actuality the hardest job is now starting.
The argument about maintaining a way of eating other than the standard American diet, could be made for pretty much any approach to losing weight. My first serious journey into losing weight was simply calorie counting. I lost weight, and then gained it back even doing all that is recommended here. Will that happen for me this time around eating Keto? No idea. I do know that losing weight is the easy part. Maintaining after losing weight is difficult. While I would not say Keto is the only way to go, I am doing it for more than just the weight loss, for me it is a way of eating that I can do without actually logging food and still maintain and lose weight. That is something I could not do just logging calories. That may, and likely will be, different for other people. For me, it works, after almost a year of following it, I find it maintainable for me. This is not to mention that many issues I had that I figured were just from getting older which didn't go away with losing weight simply counting calories have gone away eating a Keto diet such as tooth sensitivity and joint pain. It is no more or less difficult to maintain than any other weight loss approach. For some people it will be easy to maintain, for others it will not. Not matter what, the standard American diet is much more sustainable, but it will result in weight gain, metabolic illness, and the like because of it high proportion of ultra processed, hyper-palatable food.
And yes it will be different for everyone. Your experience is strictly anecdotal. KETO May be easy for you however for a large percentage, eliminating an entire macronutrient is not maintainable for the long term past the Fatloss phase.
I do remember previously that maintain my weight loss with Keto was challenging. After I reached my goal (plus a little extra!), I switched over to a lower-carb diet not as strict as Keto. Gained a tiny bit back, but was still at goal. I was doing well with this until I kinda gave up on my health.1 -
josh250to180 wrote: »Will power. It takes so much dang will power in today's world.
Being overweight and obese is a good thing in this economy. It's a multibillion dollar business in every aspect: pharmaceuticals, doctors, clothing, and even this fitness app. They all depend on you gaining weight.
So, whatever your motivation, whatever diet you are on...work on will power. That will be the deciding factor.
Salut!
Willpower is something that I've considered a useful part of this, in life I general, no doubt. I get a lot of food noise in my head when I'm stressed or emotionally "off". Willpower only goes so far, I feel. I'm a strong lady but sometimes those noises are stronger than my logic.2 -
Hi @Awegg05 welcome! Happy you had success before. And don’t worry, many of us have been in your shoes and had to start over. It sounds like you really enjoyed Keto. In order for us to help with next steps, what did you love about it? What didn’t you love? Why did you go off keto? Hoping we can lead you in the right direction 😊
Thank you! Honestly, I had lost more than I was planning to, so I stopped Keto and switched to a less-restrictive diet, gained a little bit back, but I was happy with what I was maintaining. Then my dad passed away. A couple months later my brothers fiancé (and my friend) was murdered. My emotional state spiraled and my health was the last thing on my mind. But it's been over two years, a pregnancy, and 120 pounds later.... I'm ready to get control over this again.
Firstly, I’m so very sorry to hear about the loss of your father and future sister in law. That’s absolutely devastating, there’s no words for how it must feel to experience something like that, all at the same time. On the flip side, I’m glad you’re in a place now where you can focus on you and take control of where you’re at.
It sounds like keto was, and very possibly will be again, the right lifestyle for you. Most of us know it all comes down to calories regardless of what diet we choose, but that doesn’t mean anything if we can’t find a way of eating that fits our lifestyle. Often that’s the hardest part. There’s some excellent keto resources here that will guide you; It’s nice to have a community to share experiences with. And, if for any reason you don’t respond to keto in the same way as before, that’s perfectly fine. There’s other options that can work just as good, so don’t worry. No diet is perfect with linear results.
I hope this new chapter produces the same success as before. Please keep us posted on your progress.
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The whole "will power" discussion is interesting. There is an aspect of needing will power to adhere to a calorie deficit. However, when dealing with food and ways of eating, will power seems only to be a part of the equation. Food is associated with so many other things beyond simple nutrition. There are social, emotional, and other factors that have little to do with will power, but has a lot to do with coming up with a way of eating that works for you and your lifestyle. For me, due to health issues, keto was the answer. Yes, for family events and the like I loosen the reigns for a meal, but even then I focus on the things that fit with keto to fill me up so I don't load up on the high carb/high sugar items. That balance allowed me to get through this past Christmas season without gaining weight which is a first for me. I plan to take the same approach for Easter. That is less will power and more careful planning. I also realize this time around, that when I get to my goal, I will have to come up with a better maintenance plan as what I tried last time didn't work even though the way I was eating was less restrictive in many ways than eating Keto.3
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Anything is possible if you put your mind to it.
If you don’t get what you want you didn’t want it bad enough.0 -
"Look ma, I can fly!"
Says Tom after jumping out of a perfectly working plane without a parachute....
.... divergence of opinion is over the "you didn't want it bad enough" blame game segment.3 -
tomcustombuilder wrote: »Anything is possible if you put your mind to it.
If you don’t get what you want you didn’t want it bad enough.
I'm curious if you would use that thinking with addicts, because I'm a self-diagnosed food addict and my WANT to be healthy and lose weight is often overtaken by this. Maybe I'm just looking for excuses 🤷♀️2 -
tomcustombuilder wrote: »
a sustainable diet in the US is only as unhealthy as you make it and done properly it does not result in weight gain. Just because someone isnt doing KETO does not mean they’re automatically doing an unhealthy diet.rileysowner wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »I’m assuming you regained weight after KETO. You may want to consider a diet that you can permanently maintain. Most people doing KETO are unable to maintain it then go off of it and regain the weight and sometimes more.
The mindset many times is the weight is off so “job done” and go back to their old eating habits when in actuality the hardest job is now starting.
The argument about maintaining a way of eating other than the standard American diet, could be made for pretty much any approach to losing weight. My first serious journey into losing weight was simply calorie counting. I lost weight, and then gained it back even doing all that is recommended here. Will that happen for me this time around eating Keto? No idea. I do know that losing weight is the easy part. Maintaining after losing weight is difficult. While I would not say Keto is the only way to go, I am doing it for more than just the weight loss, for me it is a way of eating that I can do without actually logging food and still maintain and lose weight. That is something I could not do just logging calories. That may, and likely will be, different for other people. For me, it works, after almost a year of following it, I find it maintainable for me. This is not to mention that many issues I had that I figured were just from getting older which didn't go away with losing weight simply counting calories have gone away eating a Keto diet such as tooth sensitivity and joint pain. It is no more or less difficult to maintain than any other weight loss approach. For some people it will be easy to maintain, for others it will not. Not matter what, the standard American diet is much more sustainable, but it will result in weight gain, metabolic illness, and the like because of it high proportion of ultra processed, hyper-palatable food.
And yes it will be different for everyone. Your experience is strictly anecdotal. KETO May be easy for you however for a large percentage, eliminating an entire macronutrient is not maintainable for the long term past the Fatloss phase.
Cruciferous vegetables and salad greens make up about a pound and a half of my food the last time I checked. I'll also carb load before hockey with some pasta, potatoes or rice generally, along with a big steak which doesn't effect my ketone levels very much. I've also maintained my weight, give or take 10lbs for the last decade without counting calories. What is this "proper" American diet that you speak of?
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »
a sustainable diet in the US is only as unhealthy as you make it and done properly it does not result in weight gain. Just because someone isnt doing KETO does not mean they’re automatically doing an unhealthy diet.rileysowner wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »I’m assuming you regained weight after KETO. You may want to consider a diet that you can permanently maintain. Most people doing KETO are unable to maintain it then go off of it and regain the weight and sometimes more.
The mindset many times is the weight is off so “job done” and go back to their old eating habits when in actuality the hardest job is now starting.
The argument about maintaining a way of eating other than the standard American diet, could be made for pretty much any approach to losing weight. My first serious journey into losing weight was simply calorie counting. I lost weight, and then gained it back even doing all that is recommended here. Will that happen for me this time around eating Keto? No idea. I do know that losing weight is the easy part. Maintaining after losing weight is difficult. While I would not say Keto is the only way to go, I am doing it for more than just the weight loss, for me it is a way of eating that I can do without actually logging food and still maintain and lose weight. That is something I could not do just logging calories. That may, and likely will be, different for other people. For me, it works, after almost a year of following it, I find it maintainable for me. This is not to mention that many issues I had that I figured were just from getting older which didn't go away with losing weight simply counting calories have gone away eating a Keto diet such as tooth sensitivity and joint pain. It is no more or less difficult to maintain than any other weight loss approach. For some people it will be easy to maintain, for others it will not. Not matter what, the standard American diet is much more sustainable, but it will result in weight gain, metabolic illness, and the like because of it high proportion of ultra processed, hyper-palatable food.
And yes it will be different for everyone. Your experience is strictly anecdotal. KETO May be easy for you however for a large percentage, eliminating an entire macronutrient is not maintainable for the long term past the Fatloss phase.
There was a time when I would have agreed with you. I no longer do on the bolded part. Frankly, going Keto I ate far more veggies than I did when I was simply counting calories which I had done both the first time I lost a lot of weight back in 2010, and for 2 plus months before I went Keto for health reasons. I never achieved anything close to my current ability to eat within my calories even while not logging or counting the first time around or in that 2 months. Yes, I am an n=1, but there are far more people than just me who have the same experience. I used to be part of the large number of people here who come down quite hard on Keto while giving Vegan eating a pass. I no longer am.3 -
The minimizing of ultra processed foods and a calorie amount that allows you to meet whatever goal you desire.neanderthin wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »
a sustainable diet in the US is only as unhealthy as you make it and done properly it does not result in weight gain. Just because someone isnt doing KETO does not mean they’re automatically doing an unhealthy diet.rileysowner wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »I’m assuming you regained weight after KETO. You may want to consider a diet that you can permanently maintain. Most people doing KETO are unable to maintain it then go off of it and regain the weight and sometimes more.
The mindset many times is the weight is off so “job done” and go back to their old eating habits when in actuality the hardest job is now starting.
The argument about maintaining a way of eating other than the standard American diet, could be made for pretty much any approach to losing weight. My first serious journey into losing weight was simply calorie counting. I lost weight, and then gained it back even doing all that is recommended here. Will that happen for me this time around eating Keto? No idea. I do know that losing weight is the easy part. Maintaining after losing weight is difficult. While I would not say Keto is the only way to go, I am doing it for more than just the weight loss, for me it is a way of eating that I can do without actually logging food and still maintain and lose weight. That is something I could not do just logging calories. That may, and likely will be, different for other people. For me, it works, after almost a year of following it, I find it maintainable for me. This is not to mention that many issues I had that I figured were just from getting older which didn't go away with losing weight simply counting calories have gone away eating a Keto diet such as tooth sensitivity and joint pain. It is no more or less difficult to maintain than any other weight loss approach. For some people it will be easy to maintain, for others it will not. Not matter what, the standard American diet is much more sustainable, but it will result in weight gain, metabolic illness, and the like because of it high proportion of ultra processed, hyper-palatable food.
And yes it will be different for everyone. Your experience is strictly anecdotal. KETO May be easy for you however for a large percentage, eliminating an entire macronutrient is not maintainable for the long term past the Fatloss phase.
. What is this "proper" American diet that you speak of?
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »
The minimizing of ultra processed foods and a calorie amount that allows you to meet whatever goal you desire.neanderthin wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »
a sustainable diet in the US is only as unhealthy as you make it and done properly it does not result in weight gain. Just because someone isnt doing KETO does not mean they’re automatically doing an unhealthy diet.rileysowner wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »I’m assuming you regained weight after KETO. You may want to consider a diet that you can permanently maintain. Most people doing KETO are unable to maintain it then go off of it and regain the weight and sometimes more.
The mindset many times is the weight is off so “job done” and go back to their old eating habits when in actuality the hardest job is now starting.
The argument about maintaining a way of eating other than the standard American diet, could be made for pretty much any approach to losing weight. My first serious journey into losing weight was simply calorie counting. I lost weight, and then gained it back even doing all that is recommended here. Will that happen for me this time around eating Keto? No idea. I do know that losing weight is the easy part. Maintaining after losing weight is difficult. While I would not say Keto is the only way to go, I am doing it for more than just the weight loss, for me it is a way of eating that I can do without actually logging food and still maintain and lose weight. That is something I could not do just logging calories. That may, and likely will be, different for other people. For me, it works, after almost a year of following it, I find it maintainable for me. This is not to mention that many issues I had that I figured were just from getting older which didn't go away with losing weight simply counting calories have gone away eating a Keto diet such as tooth sensitivity and joint pain. It is no more or less difficult to maintain than any other weight loss approach. For some people it will be easy to maintain, for others it will not. Not matter what, the standard American diet is much more sustainable, but it will result in weight gain, metabolic illness, and the like because of it high proportion of ultra processed, hyper-palatable food.
And yes it will be different for everyone. Your experience is strictly anecdotal. KETO May be easy for you however for a large percentage, eliminating an entire macronutrient is not maintainable for the long term past the Fatloss phase.
. What is this "proper" American diet that you speak of?
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