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Crazy Marketing Claims in Ads

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  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
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    Dammit, they’re stalking my feed - and making assumptions.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,173 Member
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    Oooooh! I am all for panties that build your core! And tummy control, too?

    Win/Win!

    Sure, because immobilizing parts by strapping them down is gonna make them stronger and better, right?

    With seriousness: I think there are some protocols now pursuing using compression garments to improve diastasis recti and possibly other abdominal trauma effects (post pregnancy or otherwise). I don't know that it's a proven thing (yet, anyway, but not sure), and I'm betting that ad isn't it.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
    Hmmmm. What gives it away. The bogus Chinese sounding name, or the fact that this one turned up on a recipe website.

    They are the worst (or best, if easily amused) for utterly sketchy weight loss ads. I wasn’t fast enough to screenshot the hot elderly woman with bodybuilder abs from chair yoga.
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,452 Member
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    I'm not sure why anyone would consider buying new clothes when it's not needed......


    My neighbor says the best thing to do is listen to celebrity doctors!
  • Lietchi
    Lietchi Posts: 6,974 Member
    robertw486 wrote: »
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    I'm not sure why anyone would consider buying new clothes when it's not needed......


    My neighbor says the best thing to do is listen to celebrity doctors!

    I'm really, really curious now about those vegetables that do more harm than good 😆
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
    I’m putting it out there now that I had a third of a mini chocolate bar for breakfast. Can’t wait til I get the Chocolate Diet in my feed!!!!

    (I was trying to make some fast chocolate syrup, since I’m off the sugar free stuff. I didn’t work, but dang, I couldn’t let it go to waste, and I had the calories, so…….back to Old Me for a few precious, enjoyable bites. BTW, microwaved dark chocolate. Next level. That was rich!)
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,173 Member
    Lietchi wrote: »
    robertw486 wrote: »
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    I'm not sure why anyone would consider buying new clothes when it's not needed......


    My neighbor says the best thing to do is listen to celebrity doctors!

    I'm really, really curious now about those vegetables that do more harm than good 😆

    It's about antinutrients, probably. Those are things in food - mostly in veggies/fruits - that interfere with absorption of other nutrients or maybe provoke sensitivities. Examples: Lectins, phytates, oxalates, goitrogens, protease inhibitors, tannins, etc.

    They're a real thing, maybe a problem if overdoing some foods in near mono-diet contexts, but considered to be no big deal in a varied, balanced eating style. Some prep methods also reduce them. It's why it's important to boil dry kidney beans for at least 10 minutes, not just slow cook them - phytohaemagglutinin (PHA), a lectin, in that case.

    IME, they're way overblown as a major bad, dangerous thing in parts of the advocacy blogosphere for some of the eating styles that reduce fruit/veggie intake or seek to criticize plant- based styles.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
    edited January 20
    @AnnPT77 you win the internet today!


    I was doing bicep curls, focusing on anything besides my trainer hovering over me, and started laughing uncontrollably.

    “What?”, she asked.

    I pointed to the TV, running an ad for Special K. It showed a slightly overweight older woman who had a single bowl of Special K, which fueled her to go do three or four different intense workouts. Without breaking a sweat.

    She started laughing, too, and we agreed that was utter nonsense. But as she said, “somebody is going to see that and think it’s true!”

    I can remember believing that, in my younger days, Special K was some kind of awesome diet food but I wasn’t about to tell her that. Remember the ad where they put a tape measure around the “waist” of a box of Special K and it had an hourglass waist?
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    @AnnPT77 how did you get those photos of me? 🤣

    Seeing those miniscule "workouts" that are supposed to result in those gains reminds me of the commercials (product? insurance maybe?) where a guy goes into the gym, drops to the mat, performs a single pushup, then hits the showers and is applauded.
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,452 Member
    Lietchi wrote: »
    robertw486 wrote: »
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    I'm not sure why anyone would consider buying new clothes when it's not needed......


    My neighbor says the best thing to do is listen to celebrity doctors!

    I'm really, really curious now about those vegetables that do more harm than good 😆

    What is even more sad to me than these crazy claims in the ads is that there are people claiming to promote health that make claims of vegetables being the enemy. Or just about anything else for that matter. And in this day and age, people will fall for it.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
    The ones that get me are when they take a fruit or vegetable and do something awful to it so it looks like guts, and then photograph it closeup with a “this one thing” headline.

    I spend way more time than I should trying to figure out exactly what poor member of the plant kingdom they’ve gotten creative with this time.

    Some of them are so gross, it puts me right off that food for a while.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    Or the ones which talk about how some deadly spider managed to hitch a ride inside of a fruit or canned good item, only to take a bite out of whoever was trying to eat the food. What the *beep*, man?
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    Or the ones which talk about how some deadly spider managed to hitch a ride inside of a fruit or canned good item, only to take a bite out of whoever was trying to eat the food. What the *beep*, man?

    WTF for real? I haven’t seen those and it took me years just to get over the fear a tarantula was in the grocery store bananas.
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,452 Member
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    Another local lady, who was unhappy with her appearance when she weighed in at 350 lbs. She said she is still not thrilled with the loose skin, but for someone 85 years old I think she looks younger.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
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    I could see my mom having fallen for this. She rented a belt-shaker machine back in the day.
  • COGypsy
    COGypsy Posts: 1,400 Member
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    I could see my mom having fallen for this. She rented a belt-shaker machine back in the day.

    My grandmother had one of those. It was the most popular toy in the house for me and my cousins!
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,629 Member
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    I could see my mom having fallen for this. She rented a belt-shaker machine back in the day.

    I'm still in a WW FB group, because it's local and handy for recipes and sales, and a lady posted asking how to log her 1 hour infra-red pod sessions because it burned 600 calories in that hour. sigh.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
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    I could see my mom having fallen for this. She rented a belt-shaker machine back in the day.

    I'm still in a WW FB group, because it's local and handy for recipes and sales, and a lady posted asking how to log her 1 hour infra-red pod sessions because it burned 600 calories in that hour. sigh.

    I am truly laughing out loud, loudly!!!!
  • Lietchi
    Lietchi Posts: 6,974 Member
    The text above seems reasonable enough, the text in the picture however - I'd love to lose 23lbs thanks to a 7-minute routine :grin: :
    (PS: losing 23 lbs of belly fat, I hope she lost lbs on other parts of her body as well or her body proportions must look strange :mrgreen: )

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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,173 Member
    Lietchi wrote: »
    The text above seems reasonable enough, the text in the picture however - I'd love to lose 23lbs thanks to a 7-minute routine :grin: :
    (PS: losing 23 lbs of belly fat, I hope she lost lbs on other parts of her body as well or her body proportions must look strange :mrgreen: )

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    The 7-minute routine would almost have to be some form of yogic bulimia, seems like. 😬
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Lietchi wrote: »
    The text above seems reasonable enough, the text in the picture however - I'd love to lose 23lbs thanks to a 7-minute routine :grin: :
    (PS: losing 23 lbs of belly fat, I hope she lost lbs on other parts of her body as well or her body proportions must look strange :mrgreen: )

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    The 7-minute routine would almost have to be some form of yogic bulimia, seems like. 😬

    In fairness, I’ve done yoga for years, including other states and countries, and have heard and seen some wierd stuff, but have never heard of yogic bulimia, except for one frequent poster here who did yoga and mentioned an issue with that particular ED. But I think she later said that was an interpretation/rationalization she’d come up with herself.

    I know you meant it in humor and am far from offended, but some folks out there might pick that up and run with it.

    Every yoga class I’ve done has focused on body positivity and self respect. Even the white clad ones I showed up in my usual rainbow gear for the practice, not having a clue. Luckily, no one spoke English so they just smiled and we carried on.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,173 Member
    edited February 5
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Lietchi wrote: »
    The text above seems reasonable enough, the text in the picture however - I'd love to lose 23lbs thanks to a 7-minute routine :grin: :
    (PS: losing 23 lbs of belly fat, I hope she lost lbs on other parts of her body as well or her body proportions must look strange :mrgreen: )

    iigzyplagiwz.png

    The 7-minute routine would almost have to be some form of yogic bulimia, seems like. 😬

    In fairness, I’ve done yoga for years, including other states and countries, and have heard and seen some wierd stuff, but have never heard of yogic bulimia, except for one frequent poster here who did yoga and mentioned an issue with that particular ED. But I think she later said that was an interpretation/rationalization she’d come up with herself.

    I know you meant it in humor and am far from offended, but some folks out there might pick that up and run with it.

    Every yoga class I’ve done has focused on body positivity and self respect. Even the white clad ones I showed up in my usual rainbow gear for the practice, not having a clue. Luckily, no one spoke English so they just smiled and we carried on.

    I did a form of yoga where they'd have periodic weekend workshops where they'd eat/drink some "cleanse" stuff, then do particular yoga exercises to enhance that effect. The bathroom was used a lot, IMU, but not for purging upward, if you know what I mean. I think I have a booklet with the exercises around here somewhere, and recall the exercises as non-extreme, but never participated in those workshops. I assume the food/drink part was . . . self-abusive, and I wouldn't do that.

    No one should pick up bulimia or cleanses or purges and run with it.

    There's no 7-minute routine that will cause weight loss in a safe, effective, health-promoting way. I hope people will accept that.

    Yes, it was intended as a joke, but the point was the paragraph just above this one.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    I typed out an entire response about my 7-minute mealtime routine causing weight loss due to portion reduction, but figured that was too snide a comment to allow through.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
    edited February 6
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Lietchi wrote: »
    The text above seems reasonable enough, the text in the picture however - I'd love to lose 23lbs thanks to a 7-minute routine :grin: :
    (PS: losing 23 lbs of belly fat, I hope she lost lbs on other parts of her body as well or her body proportions must look strange :mrgreen: )

    iigzyplagiwz.png

    The 7-minute routine would almost have to be some form of yogic bulimia, seems like. 😬

    In fairness, I’ve done yoga for years, including other states and countries, and have heard and seen some wierd stuff, but have never heard of yogic bulimia, except for one frequent poster here who did yoga and mentioned an issue with that particular ED. But I think she later said that was an interpretation/rationalization she’d come up with herself.

    I know you meant it in humor and am far from offended, but some folks out there might pick that up and run with it.

    Every yoga class I’ve done has focused on body positivity and self respect. Even the white clad ones I showed up in my usual rainbow gear for the practice, not having a clue. Luckily, no one spoke English so they just smiled and we carried on.

    I did a form of yoga where they'd have periodic weekend workshops where they'd eat/drink some "cleanse" stuff, then do particular yoga exercises to enhance that effect. The bathroom was used a lot, IMU, but not for purging upward, if you know what I mean. I think I have a booklet with the exercises around here somewhere, and recall the exercises as non-extreme, but never participated in those workshops. I assume the food/drink part was . . . self-abusive, and I wouldn't do that.
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    Wow. I am shocked. Though, I should be unshockable by this age, I suppose.

    My daughter is an instructor, has spent time in an ashram, and does websites and social media for a bunch of studios scattered around the country, as well as a large yoga festival in CA. I’m going to throw this at her and see if she’s ever heard of this.

    Man, I am so grateful for the outstanding quality of the studio I’m fortunate enough to have on my doorstep. I need to tell the owner that again. I still thank her regularly for maintaining her full schedule, via Zoom, during the pandemic. Sanity saver for so many of us.

    The closest I’ve ever come to anything like that is someone occasionally mentioning “twists are good for digestion”!
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 35,173 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Lietchi wrote: »
    The text above seems reasonable enough, the text in the picture however - I'd love to lose 23lbs thanks to a 7-minute routine :grin: :
    (PS: losing 23 lbs of belly fat, I hope she lost lbs on other parts of her body as well or her body proportions must look strange :mrgreen: )

    iigzyplagiwz.png

    The 7-minute routine would almost have to be some form of yogic bulimia, seems like. 😬

    In fairness, I’ve done yoga for years, including other states and countries, and have heard and seen some wierd stuff, but have never heard of yogic bulimia, except for one frequent poster here who did yoga and mentioned an issue with that particular ED. But I think she later said that was an interpretation/rationalization she’d come up with herself.

    I know you meant it in humor and am far from offended, but some folks out there might pick that up and run with it.

    Every yoga class I’ve done has focused on body positivity and self respect. Even the white clad ones I showed up in my usual rainbow gear for the practice, not having a clue. Luckily, no one spoke English so they just smiled and we carried on.

    I did a form of yoga where they'd have periodic weekend workshops where they'd eat/drink some "cleanse" stuff, then do particular yoga exercises to enhance that effect. The bathroom was used a lot, IMU, but not for purging upward, if you know what I mean. I think I have a booklet with the exercises around here somewhere, and recall the exercises as non-extreme, but never participated in those workshops. I assume the food/drink part was . . . self-abusive, and I wouldn't do that.
    .

    Wow. I am shocked. Though, I should be unshockable by this age, I suppose.

    My daughter is an instructor, has spent time in an ashram, and does websites and social media for a bunch of studios scattered around the country, as well as a large yoga festival in CA. I’m going to throw this at her and see if she’s ever heard of this.

    Man, I am so grateful for the outstanding quality of the studio I’m fortunate enough to have on my doorstep. I need to tell the owner that again. I still thank her regularly for maintaining her full schedule, via Zoom, during the pandemic. Sanity saver for so many of us.

    The closest I’ve ever come to anything like that is someone occasionally mentioning “twists are good for digestion”!

    The guy who led the yoga group that had that practice was and is a little "out there" even as a human being, honestly, so no surprise there's that in his yoga organization. He had some community ed classes here that I took. Those had good basic content, and he sold (for tiny money) really good booklets of functionally related groups of the exercises he led, many of them movements rather than static postures. I still refer to the booklets sometimes.

    I've had other yoga teachers who were not like this, and I have no indication it's anywhere near any mainstream.

    It's been somewhat more common to hear that certain practices stimulate the digestive or excretory functions in some way. No other "cleanse parties", though.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,997 Member
    edited February 6
    That’s why there’s a pose called called “wind relieving” pose. 😇

    My daughter thought the idea of potty parties was pretty funny. She says Iyengar did do a lot of twists etc to facilitate digestion but that to her knowledge it was disproven. I still hear that from various instructors myself.

    I guess it’s like ACV, once it gets into popular lore…

    My strangest experience was going to a studio on a small city in otherwise very rural northern Germany. I didn’t realize it was Kundalini, wouldn’t have even known what it meant. I was just happy to find a studio within a couple mile walk. I didn’t know you were supposed to wear all white and I showed up in my typical colorful gear. The shock! But they let me participate-probably because there wasn’t enough common language between us to say “go away!”

    We spent ten minutes flapping our knees in seated butterfly, another ten doing hip circles (no problem with those. They are my go-to first stretch every day.)

    But man, those flapping butterflies. Yikes.

    Someone later told me they were supposed to be meditative, but I only wanted to strangle someone towards the end. Yin, I’m fine with. But ten minutes of flapping…..

    We did something else for ten minutes that was really frustrating but can’t remember what it was.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 12,820 Member
    The same material presented by different instructors can be radically different, to the point of being unrecognizable.

    Back in college I studied the martial art aikido, a very peaceful art which uses lots of circular motions and joint locks to stop an attacker without hurting the attacker. The sensei who led our class was funny, so very kind and patient, and we walked away each day at peace with the world.

    Fast forward to my first duty assignment in the military, I looked around to find another aikido dojo, but all that was offered was karate. I'd seen plenty of martial arts movies and had no illusions that karate was the same as aikido, but figured I'd give it a try. Within five minutes, I knew this was the wrong class for me. The instructor (I refuse to grant him the honor of calling him sensei) started the class with basic punches to warmup, that's fine. But he literally was shouting for us to imagine we were breaking the nose of our attacker, to drive it into the *insert cussword* brain, to hurt and destroy him before he could hurt us. I was completely shocked and dismayed, as this class included students of all ages, from 8 year-olds to senior citizens, who all seemed ok with this hyper-aggressive approach. I didn't even finish the free sample lesson, I walked out in front of the class, pointedly not looking at the instructor.

    Spoke years later with a buddy who knew tae kwon do, another martial art featuring punches and kicks, and he shook his head and admitted those types of teachers are out there. Turns out "Karate Kid" had far more truth to it than I ever realized watching it as a kid. (Remains one of my all-time favorite movies to this day.)