October Whole 30 for Paleo/Primal Support Peeps

Do you think eating 20-30 carbs is too few?

Should I be aiming higher?

I am eating Paleo except basically no fruit. I eat clean organic veggies, meats, nuts, eggs and some cheese. I eat dairy but try to limit it.

IMHO, Zero carbs is fine. You must have essential fatty acids and essential amino acids (Fat and Protein) but there is NO SUCH thing as an essential Carb.

Having said that, how do you feel on the amount of carbs you are eating. If you are weak, shaky and experiencing cravings, you might want to go LOWER. General guidelines for leptin reset per Jack Kruse are less than 25g/day if you have more than 30 lbs to shed. (Someone correct me if I got the numbers wrong...where is my fact checker?)

If you have no cravings, are an athlete who could lift very heavy and run very fast before you dropped your carb intake, but now are feeling like a newborn kitten you're so weak, then maybe you need to add some slow, whole food, perfectly Paleo/Primal carbs back into your nutritional plan. For the athletes I train, I restore their fat intake to optimal first, then we improve the sourcing or amount of their protein intake. Next I clean up the veggies, removing any possible allergens or irritants including sadly, nightshades for some folk. The very last thing I would do is advise someone to add carbs but I will if all the other ingredients to a happy, healthy person are there.

Paleo/Primal is not automatically Low Carb. For many of us who are new to this way of life, our new food diary shows us that we've dropped from 200-300g/day to less than 100g/day. There are certainly athletes and others who are able to shed weight and build muscles while eating much, much more than 100g per day. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. Sigh.

I feel my best when eating less than 20g Carb per day but any amount of carb intake may be appropriate for you if your body thrives on that amount. What is your health like? How is your sleep? How much energy do you have at the end of the day? Are you strong, fast, supple, flexible, smart and do you feel like you have more energy than you need to thrive at what makes you happy? Do you look like a million bucks? What are your nails and hair like?

There are no right/wrong ways to develop your own Paleo Template/Primal Blueprint WOL. Listening to your body, others who have accomplished the goals you seek to gain and to experts can help. In the end, your body's vote is the deciding factor in what is right for you.

Any other nutritionists, trainers, veterans want to chime in on this one?

Do you think eating 20-30 carbs is too few?

Should I be aiming higher?

I am eating Paleo except basically no fruit. I eat clean organic veggies, meats, nuts, eggs and some cheese. I eat dairy but try to limit it.

IMHO, Zero carbs is fine. You must have essential fatty acids and essential amino acids (Fat and Protein) but there is NO SUCH thing as an essential Carb.

Having said that, how do you feel on the amount of carbs you are eating. If you are weak, shaky and experiencing cravings, you might want to go LOWER. General guidelines for leptin reset per Jack Kruse are less than 25g/day if you have more than 30 lbs to shed. (Someone correct me if I got the numbers wrong...where is my fact checker?)

If you have no cravings, are an athlete who could lift very heavy and run very fast before you dropped your carb intake, but now are feeling like a newborn kitten you're so weak, then maybe you need to add some slow, whole food, perfectly Paleo/Primal carbs back into your nutritional plan. For the athletes I train, I restore their fat intake to optimal first, then we improve the sourcing or amount of their protein intake. Next I clean up the veggies, removing any possible allergens or irritants including sadly, nightshades for some folk. The very last thing I would do is advise someone to add carbs but I will if all the other ingredients to a happy, healthy person are there.

Paleo/Primal is not automatically Low Carb. For many of us who are new to this way of life, our new food diary shows us that we've dropped from 200-300g/day to less than 100g/day. There are certainly athletes and others who are able to shed weight and build muscles while eating much, much more than 100g per day. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. Sigh.

I feel my best when eating less than 20g Carb per day but any amount of carb intake may be appropriate for you if your body thrives on that amount. What is your health like? How is your sleep? How much energy do you have at the end of the day? Are you strong, fast, supple, flexible, smart and do you feel like you have more energy than you need to thrive at what makes you happy? Do you look like a million bucks? What are your nails and hair like?

There are no right/wrong ways to develop your own Paleo Template/Primal Blueprint WOL. Listening to your body, others who have accomplished the goals you seek to gain and to experts can help. In the end, your body's vote is the deciding factor in what is right for you.

Any other nutritionists, trainers, veterans want to chime in on this one?

Exactly my advice, but I always find you to be more eloquent.

In the beginning, I felt best on a pretty low amount of carbs and that worked for a long time. I'm finding that a few years later and incorporating a bootcamp workout 3 days a week since January has changed my carb needs. I was really dragging and moody and it negatively impacted my hormonal health. I'm still pretty low carb at around 100g/day and I still don't tolerate them in unlimited quantities but now I can enjoy and seem to need an occasional sweet potato for example. Even as recently as last year that wasn't the case.

Day one of no diet soda. I'm on my 5th glass of water. And my 5th trip to the bathroom! LOL

Good morning everyone.

I have learned that I can not venture very far out of my realm on the boards and I am looking into buying hosting space to create my own message board. I am going through my thought processes for how I would like it structured and go from there.

I just want to be around like minded people because the conflicts aren't there and everyone understands what is being said.

I refuse to let anyone steal my joy today. We are going to the world series game tonight and since we got in an all inclusive area I will be able to eat bunless burgers and hot dogs.

I may have 1 beer just to celebrate while I am enjoying the game. This is a choice I am making so I will suffer the consequences without belly achying or complaining.

Parting words: Stay Positive. Eat Real Food. Keep it simple.

I am hearing rumors that they may go the route with this site of not allowing anyone to be a part of the website in the near future that is doing an alternative weight loss program......... (i.e. - HCG, Atkins, Paleo, etc)

I am trying to find out if this is true. If it is, I am going to have to work faster to get us our own posting forum.

I think I can understand not wanting to promote certain diet products or eating disorders but I'm not sure how they could police all the different eating programs that everyone is following. What about low-carbers that are doing so on doctor's orders? Or those groups with food allergies/ intolerances/ medical conditions like PCOS? What if you follow paleo because you were forced into it or else become debilitatingly sick? I could be naive, certainly unfair things happen every day, but I would like to think that if Mike/ Steven/ whoever wanted to lump our lifestyle choice in with something like HCG that we could state our case for why it IS healthy. There's enough of us to show smart diaries and healthy progress stats and pics and they could read back through the very many threads where they could see some very reasoned discussion, advice, opinions, and links to further prove our point. And so far, the posts and responses I have seen from Mike on other issues lead me to believe he is a fair, honest, and reasonable person who would be open to hearing us out.

The idea of us getting kicked out for doing what we feel is best for us is extremely upsetting but at this point it is only rumor. I haven't been here very long but I have seen this message board attacking and other nonsense run in cycles. We seem to be at a high point right now.

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