My response to people that say humans HAVE to eat meat...

I have ignored this every time you have posted this. It is just crap. You might as well cite an opinion piece in the National Inquirer as proof.

Really?

John McArdle, Ph.D., an anatomist and primatologist, a vegetarian, and scientific advisor to the American Anti-Vivisection Society, summarizes the situation clearly [McArdle 1996, p. 174]:

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This is interesting. I have a degree in anthropology and one of the interesting facts about humans is that for most of our (anotomically human) history we did subsist largely on fruits, nuts, grains, etc. Meat was a 'luxury' and hard to come by (50,000 years ago there were no supermarkets, just you and the wild. What's easier, foraging for some grains and nuts that will quickly fill you up, or risk your life hunting an animal that could very well kill you?)

Additionally, the human digestive tract is long, which suggests that it was not intended for continuous digestion of animal protein (compare our digestive tract to that of a known carnivore, such as a lion, and you will see the difference immediately). I am a vegetarian myself, but largely for ethical reasons. But I will take the health benefits as well! Vegetarian diets have long been recognized to be a healthy alternative to a diet consisting largely of animal protein.

This is not to say that eating meat is contrary to "human nature," or that it is consistent with it - whatever that means (people argue both sides of this, believe it or not). But it does mean that our evolutionary history makes a vegetarian (or mostly vegetarian) diet very compatible with a healthy lifestyle.

The post below regarding our incisors being evidence of us being 'meat eaters' can easily be refuted, since incisors are remnants of our primate origins, not indicative of homo sapiens' eating patterns, per se (discussing our eating patterns 3 - 6 million years ago vs. 100,000 will yield very different conclusions!). In fact, most of our current teeth (and our chewing patterns) point to a style of eating consistent with grinding (lots of low flat teeth) usually associated with the breakdown of grains, nuts, legumes, etc., not with the tearing of flesh.

In the end, we are human and we have a choice in what we eat, so any argument suggesting that one way of eating is 'right' will have its opponents and proponents. I'm a vegetarian because I know that it isn't necessary to kill animals to survive and I believe that if you can minimize suffering in any capacity, you should. That is my philosophy on eating, but I also understand not every one shares that sentiment - and I don't base whether I eat meat or not on whether or not we have incisors or a short digestive tract either. Like all humans, I eat based on what I believe it is appropriate to eat in my social context. Whew!

I have ignored this every time you have posted this. It is just crap. You might as well cite an opinion piece in the National Inquirer as proof.

Really?

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Winning!

Yeah, well, I guess that is the difference between living in a civilized place and living in a jungle.

I just read 4 pages of this thread. I honestly didn't think the OP was that bad, but the longer I read the more I want steak now. I can't believe how many people get so worked up about who eats what. To each their own.

I have ignored this every time you have posted this. It is just crap. You might as well cite an opinion piece in the National Inquirer as proof.

Really?

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Winning what? Proof that you can cite bibliographies out of an on line course syllibus? Okay, you give me the proper citation, with page number for everything that is precisely relevant to what you want to prove.. Oh, yes, and again for the one hundreth time WHAT IS YOUR POINT. WHAT ARE YOU CLAIMING. You still haven't gotten to square one.

Yeah, well, I guess that is the difference between living in a civilized place and living in a jungle.

Indeed. The majority of Western civilization still eats meat. The fact that you don't doesn't make you any more civilized.

Haven't had any meat in over a month now, and I'm content.

I've never met a person who was malnourished simply because they don't eat meat.

Yeah, well, I guess that is the difference between living in a civilized place and living in a jungle.

Indeed. The majority of Western civilization still eats meat. The fact that you don't doesn't make you any more civilized.

The fact that I am literate makes me civilized. And by the way, the vast majority of the human race does NOT eat meat. In most countries in the world, particularly the third world, meat is too expensive to be part of the diet.

The fact that I don't eat meat makes more more ethical.

I spent 16 happy healthy years growing up vegetarian (then I got a taste for the flesh). Point is, 16 years, happy and healthy, lucky omnivorous us, we can eat it but we don't Have to.

The citations are all linked from the article you described as "an opinion piece".

It is an opinion piece. Any article that does not appear in a peer-reviewed journal is an opinon, not a serious article. Sorry.