My response to people that say humans HAVE to eat meat...

I am not looking for a heated debate, just opinions,

So who are you rooting for today? Pat's hot dogs, or Giants veggie burgers?

That dinosaur guy must've blocked me.
Maybe calling him out on his ignorance is a good way to proceed.

Usually when the light of truth shines, dishonesty, like roaches who love darkness, run for the dusky cracks where they dwell in a joyless state of dastardliness.

They need meat!:drinker:

True, this will be a never-ending debate. I've given up trying to push the anti-meat debate unless the audience wants to hear it. The only point I'll add to this thread is that since we turned vegan, myself, my wife, and my son, have never been sick. In two years, a sore throat or mild cold simply disappears by itself two days later.

Same goes for my two year-old son. The other kids in his daycare center are always sticky with runny noses, colds, coughs, you name it. Thankfully my son shakes it off after a day or two. He also has all the energy in the world and doctors confirmed his development is spot-on without any meat or dairy consumption.

Regardless of what anybody says, dropping the meat and dairy has been the best thing for my family's health, with noticeable changes from day 1. Even if the ethics behind animal cruelty do not concern you, I recommend the vegan lifestyle simply for the pure, clean, ongoing health benefits you enjoy every day.

And about B12 deficiency? An easy supplement keeps me on the sunny side.

Peace and health to you all!

I have come to a conclusion after reading 4 pages of this thread.

1. Eat meat. You won't die to death because of it.
2. If you don't want to eat meat, don't. Us meat-eaters don't care and won't preach.
3. VegesaurusRex should be working as a stand up comedian. Their self-righteous, thou hast the holiest *kitten* attitude, is beyond hilarious.

It seems to have gotten under your skin. Wazza matta, too close to the truth?

why not think of what you have done the next time you sit down as a meal and there is the flesh of a dead animal on your plate, an animal that would not have been killed if you and other had not been willing to buy its corpse.

I am so sad to see this forum
As a newer member to mfp I always enjoyed the forums...always so supportive! If one member asks a question they usually get an answer...if another one confesses a binge the other members support them and motivate them. I have seen plenty of threads congratulating members on their successes and achievements.... but look at what we are reduced to in a conversation like this...
I was elated to find a site that was so supportive regardless of where we are in our journeys. I understand that there are trolls everywhere on the internet but today definitely tarnished my views about this site.

The question of animals vs plants... Plants aren't sentient beings and that is the difference.

Animals, however, are sentient beings. I am against factory farming. If it was like in the days of animals having good lives up until slaughter....I would probably not be a vegetarian working towards vegan.

I am a vegetarian. I am perfectly healthy. Having studied human evolution I have yet to see a single jot of evidence that humans are biologically supposed to be omnivores. Every single bit of biological evidence suggests we should be vegetarian.


BUT I CBA arguing with meat eaters. Each to their own.

If we're supposed to be vegetarian how come we have Canine's & molars? they are for ripping & chewing meat.
While many people in the developing world eat or have available enough food in sheer caloric intake, their diets are severely lacking in micronutrients that can only be derived from animal-source protein. Livestock consumption provides a micronutrient-rich supplement to a staple-plant based diet in developing nations. Animal-source foods (including meat, milk and eggs) are particularly appropriate for combating the range of nutritional deficiencies faced by people in developing nations, from providing them with additional iron, calcium, and zinc, to stabilizing a food supply which often fluctuates seasonally.
You can't get everything that your body needs on just a plant based diet, most vegans/veggies take supplements that give them the nutrients that meat would.

Herbivores have molars. Look at cows, horses.....even elephants have canines and molars. Carnivores and omnivores in general DON'T have molars. They are for grinding plant matter.

How is my post not live and let live? Please explain. I didn't push meat on anyone. I simply said I like to eat it and WTF should anyone care?

I only care in so far as when (not if) you get colon cancer or heart diesease or some other chronic disease related to meat eating, that you are going to go to the public fisc and I am going to have to pay for your health care. I want you to live and die with your choices as I will live and die with mine. Health care is such a disaster in this country because of meat, and I for one am sick of paying the bill.