"Toning" aka fear of lifting heavy

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  • Ok so i have a few quesitons:

    1. Would using the machines at the gym be still effective or do i have to use free weights? I ask because the free wt section at the gym is always full of men and i feel intimiated going in there.

    2. I need to lose about 50lbs and am eating at a calorie deficit . Would this still yeild the results i am looking for??

    3. Or should i wait till i am closer to my goal weight to start lifting heavy?

    Thanks and please no sarcastic remarks. :) thanks
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
    Ok so i have a few quesitons:

    1. Would using the machines at the gym be still effective or do i have to use free weights? I ask because the free wt section at the gym is always full of men and i feel intimiated going in there.

    2. I need to lose about 50lbs and am eating at a calorie deficit . Would this still yeild the results i am looking for??

    3. Or should i wait till i am closer to my goal weight to start lifting heavy?

    Thanks and please no sarcastic remarks. :) thanks

    Nah, no need to wait. Lifting heavy is a good way to maintain and even build some strength while on a calorie deficit. Of course you won't have to worry about putting on mass either. :)
  • lisaisso
    lisaisso Posts: 337 Member
    :heart:
    goin' to the boys' side tomorrow for the first time beeotches! i'm so stoked :glasses:
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    Ok so i have a few quesitons:

    1. Would using the machines at the gym be still effective or do i have to use free weights? I ask because the free wt section at the gym is always full of men and i feel intimiated going in there.

    2. I need to lose about 50lbs and am eating at a calorie deficit . Would this still yeild the results i am looking for??

    3. Or should i wait till i am closer to my goal weight to start lifting heavy?

    Thanks and please no sarcastic remarks. :) thanks
    1. Free weights are better because you work a group of muscle and do not isolate just one muscle. When you isolate on muscle, you make it stronger without keeping the balance between all the muscles and this can result in injuries.
    2. Start right now....it is alot easier to maintain the muscles you have now then to wait, lose muscle mass then trying to build it back. Ask the girls trying to gain muscle mass how very hard it is.
    Good luck
  • Thank u yanicka1 and jnick77 for your responses. :). Will definately get started!!
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    Ok so i have a few quesitons:

    1. Would using the machines at the gym be still effective or do i have to use free weights? I ask because the free wt section at the gym is always full of men and i feel intimiated going in there.

    YES. Machines are great though you may need to do a lot more machines to target the whole muscle group instead of working with free weights. Machines have the advantage of being easy to use while free weights can be ineffective or damage your body if used improperly with poor form. The key is to lift as heavy as you can. This means that after doing about 8 reps, if you cannot do another, you're doing the right weight. I like to do a set of 8-10 pushing myself as hard as I can, take a short breather, then do another, then another. I usually only do 3 sets at a time then move on to the next machine.
    2. I need to lose about 50lbs and am eating at a calorie deficit . Would this still yeild the results i am looking for??

    Lifting will help you maintain your lean mass and add strength gains. I've noticed I'm much less "giggly" than I was before I was lifting. Gaining muscle is very difficult so maintaining it is the best bet.
    3. Or should i wait till i am closer to my goal weight to start lifting heavy?

    Start now. Do not wait. HOP TO IT LADY LOU!
  • Thanks Elizaabeth. :). Cant wait to start seeing results i know it wont happen over night. But i guess i didnt get fat overnight either. :)
  • fromaquasar
    fromaquasar Posts: 811 Member
    :heart:
    goin' to the boys' side tomorrow for the first time beeotches! i'm so stoked :glasses:

    Have fun! It's much better on that side!
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    Thanks Elizaabeth. :). Cant wait to start seeing results i know it wont happen over night. But i guess i didnt get fat overnight either. :)

    Don't worry about it. Just focus on making the changes necessary to move you in the right direction. Think of weight loss less of a goal but more of a side bonus to living better, and you will be much happier along this journey.

    I wrote a short post for Newbies if you are interested: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/470367-tips-for-newbies
  • One thing first...you must make sure to use proper technique when lifting heavy. The heavier the weight, the greater the risk for injury. Make sure you have been properly instructed in proper form and not just gathered information from watching others in the gym. All too often I see people lifting weights which are too heavy for them, using very slopy form just to complete one or two reps.
  • Elzecat
    Elzecat Posts: 2,916 Member
    Ok so i have a few quesitons:

    1. Would using the machines at the gym be still effective or do i have to use free weights? I ask because the free wt section at the gym is always full of men and i feel intimiated going in there.

    YES. Machines are great though you may need to do a lot more machines to target the whole muscle group instead of working with free weights. Machines have the advantage of being easy to use while free weights can be ineffective or damage your body if used improperly with poor form. The key is to lift as heavy as you can. This means that after doing about 8 reps, if you cannot do another, you're doing the right weight. I like to do a set of 8-10 pushing myself as hard as I can, take a short breather, then do another, then another. I usually only do 3 sets at a time then move on to the next machine.
    2. I need to lose about 50lbs and am eating at a calorie deficit . Would this still yeild the results i am looking for??

    Lifting will help you maintain your lean mass and add strength gains. I've noticed I'm much less "giggly" than I was before I was lifting. Gaining muscle is very difficult so maintaining it is the best bet.
    3. Or should i wait till i am closer to my goal weight to start lifting heavy?

    Start now. Do not wait. HOP TO IT LADY LOU!

    THIS! :)))))
  • Cal28
    Cal28 Posts: 514 Member
    I see a lot of people have said that it preferable to lift heavy as opposed to light for lots of reps.
    I just wondered what the take on BodyPump was? I notice people mentioned it was good for form but is it any good as far as 'weightlifting' goes? x
  • SWilland
    SWilland Posts: 232 Member
    What excellent timing! I was just considering adding weights into my routine.
  • SabrinaJL
    SabrinaJL Posts: 1,579 Member
    I've read NROLFW and to be honest, I found it a bit hard to follow. I'm not looking to start anything new just yet as I'm hopefully (pending xray results) working towards a half marathon in a month. When that's done, I'd like to start Body for Life. Opinions on that?

    I definitely want to do some serious lifting as I've finally lost enough flab for muscles to start showing (<----see profile pic. Yay for less flab!) and I dig it.
  • MrDude_1
    MrDude_1 Posts: 2,510 Member
    Would using the machines at the gym be still effective or do i have to use free weights? I ask because the free wt section at the gym is always full of men and i feel intimiated going in there.

    YES. Machines are great though you may need to do a lot more machines to target the whole muscle group instead of working with free weights. Machines have the advantage of being easy to use while free weights can be ineffective or damage your body if used improperly with poor form. The key is to lift as heavy as you can. This means that after doing about 8 reps, if you cannot do another, you're doing the right weight. I like to do a set of 8-10 pushing myself as hard as I can, take a short breather, then do another, then another. I usually only do 3 sets at a time then move on to the next machine.
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    I have to disagree slightly with this.
    While machines are better then nothing, they dont work muscles in the same way they're used in the real world.
    When you're standing there holding a weight, you're not just using your arms. Your using your back and abs to stabilize yourself. You're using your legs. You're using the little muscles on the sides of your arms, shoulders and back to keep it from swaying.. etc.
    You get a much fuller workout that also translates into being able to doing more outside the gym.

    Overall the idea of damaging yourself with poor form is greatly exaggerated. Watch vids and learn online.. then go in and DO IT.. with light weights, and you WILL learn good form easily. Its not hard, its just not intuitive knowledge.
  • bushidowoman
    bushidowoman Posts: 1,599 Member
    High five!
    I am a mama of six who doesn't have the time or money for a gym membership, and I have still benefitted greatly from following the advice to "lift heavy". I have seen impressive results with nothing more than an inexpensive set of dumbbells, a routine of exercises to work various muscles (which I change up every few weeks), and about 30 minutes 3x a week. I do it in my bedroom before getting into the shower in the mornings.
    Since I started lifting, I have gone from a size 12 to a size 8. :-) My friends all want to know what I am doing, but they aren't interested when I say "lifting weights!" lol I wish more women knew that it doesn't have to be complicated or intimidating!
  • Loveebbs
    Loveebbs Posts: 300 Member
    Completely agree and love lifting heavy weights. :flowerforyou:
  • TluvK
    TluvK Posts: 733 Member
    I've read NROLFW and to be honest, I found it a bit hard to follow. I'm not looking to start anything new just yet as I'm hopefully (pending xray results) working towards a half marathon in a month. When that's done, I'd like to start Body for Life. Opinions on that?

    I definitely want to do some serious lifting as I've finally lost enough flab for muscles to start showing (<----see profile pic. Yay for less flab!) and I dig it.

    NROLFW may seem a little hard to follow at first, but once you jump into it, it all becomes pretty clear. I HIGHLY recommend it. It changed my body - now, I'm sure other weight lifting programs could have the same effect, but that particular one worked for me. I haven't heard of Body for Life.
  • tuffytuffy1
    tuffytuffy1 Posts: 920 Member
    I lift heavy with my trainer, and I LOVE IT. My body shape has changed dramatically to be much more feminine and curvy. I have a defined waist now, and my legs look great. Now if only the 20 pounds of fat I want to lose would come off my muscles, I'd be super hot :-)
  • jdavis193
    jdavis193 Posts: 972 Member
    Can someone get a short description of the book NROLFW. Are there routines or what in it?
  • TluvK
    TluvK Posts: 733 Member
    Can someone get a short description of the book NROLFW. Are there routines or what in it?

    There are 7 Stages. Within each stage there are two workouts (A & B), that you alternate during the stage. You can either lift 2 or 3 days per week, depending on your schedule, but obviously doing it 3 times per week will have you completing the program faster. You do each workout (A & B) four times.

    Each workout is designed to be a full body workout. Here is an example of Stage 1 Workout A and B:
    I don't have the book in front of me, but I believe the reps and sets are 10 and 3, respectively, although this changes throughout the stage.

    1A:
    Squat
    Push-up
    Seated Row
    Step-up
    Prone Jackknife

    1B:
    Deadlift
    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    Wide Grip Lat pulldown
    Lunge
    Swiss-ball Crunch
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    +1 for this thread!

    All I can add is for you ladies not to be afraid of coming over to the boys side of the gym. It might look intimidating but the big guys in the freeweights section are usually a pretty friendly bunch when it comes to training. If you go over and stand in the squat rack curling 5lb dumbells for 10 sets of 50 reps, you'll probably get some funny looks. If you go over and get in the squat rack and start squatting - even if it's just with the unloaded bar to work on your form - nobody will have anything but respect for you. Most guys will be happy to give you a spot or even take a look at your form for you if you ask - just don't ask while the guy's midway through a set of bench press!

    Jay
  • samntha14
    samntha14 Posts: 2,084 Member
    I finally left my little corner of the gym where I tended to hide when working and stepped into the free weight zone. I usually just run in grab a set of 10's and run out. The guys get used to you being around, and I was able to work for real and finally start adding real weight (real for me, for now). Finally getting some plates on the bar LOL. I LOVE LIFTING! My husband even said to me, "hey I think your butt is smaller". Two months of cardio didn't do it, weights did it in less than 1.
  • +1 for this thread!

    All I can add is for you ladies not to be afraid of coming over to the boys side of the gym. It might look intimidating but the big guys in the freeweights section are usually a pretty friendly bunch when it comes to training. If you go over and stand in the squat rack curling 5lb dumbells for 10 sets of 50 reps, you'll probably get some funny looks. If you go over and get in the squat rack and start squatting - even if it's just with the unloaded bar to work on your form - nobody will have anything but respect for you. Most guys will be happy to give you a spot or even take a look at your form for you if you ask - just don't ask while the guy's midway through a set of bench press!

    Jay


    Jay wish u were at my gym. :).
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    I see a lot of people have said that it preferable to lift heavy as opposed to light for lots of reps.
    I just wondered what the take on BodyPump was? I notice people mentioned it was good for form but is it any good as far as 'weightlifting' goes? x

    I've read that this kind of lifting is good for endurance if you already have a nice strength level in place. It's not as effective at retaining muscle and strength while losing weight, which is of course one of the biggest reasons to lift while dieting.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/traini ... art-1.html
  • I'm not afraid to "bulk up", since I know it won't happen. I'm more afraid of hurting myself if I lift heavy.
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
    I'm not afraid to "bulk up", since I know it won't happen. I'm more afraid of hurting myself if I lift heavy.

    Just learn good form and you'll be fine. I've pulled muscles doing lighter weight with higher reps, a friend of mine tore his bicep doing sets of 12. If a muscle or tendon is going to go, it's gonna go.
  • _persephone_
    _persephone_ Posts: 138 Member
    +1 for this thread!

    All I can add is for you ladies not to be afraid of coming over to the boys side of the gym. It might look intimidating but the big guys in the freeweights section are usually a pretty friendly bunch when it comes to training. If you go over and stand in the squat rack curling 5lb dumbells for 10 sets of 50 reps, you'll probably get some funny looks. If you go over and get in the squat rack and start squatting - even if it's just with the unloaded bar to work on your form - nobody will have anything but respect for you. Most guys will be happy to give you a spot or even take a look at your form for you if you ask - just don't ask while the guy's midway through a set of bench press!

    Jay



    This really is true! I was slightly intimidated to begin with, but the 'scary' guys in my gym have been nothing but nice and helpful to me. I suspect they may be glad that the free weights area is less of a sausage fest for once lol.
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