Asked my Trainer re eating back calories

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  • bademasi
    bademasi Posts: 180 Member
    bookmarking this awesome post.... thank you
  • Carebear530
    Carebear530 Posts: 49 Member
    Great post. :)
  • 99cherrypie99
    99cherrypie99 Posts: 205 Member
    Not sure why everyone is so impressed with the trainer's reply, especially since the trainer believes in "starvation mode" which simply DOES NOT exist. Let me say it again - it does not exist - unless you are at a Nazi Concentration Camp and have been ritually denied basic sustenance for months and months on end. Even Weight Watchers acknowledges it doesn't exist.

    That being said, "eating back" you calories does not have to be an all or nothing proposition. I work out 7 days a week and 5 of those days I work out twice. What I know is that I - along with 95% of other people - grossly underestimate their calorie intake and grossly overestimate their exercise calories. Which means that MOST people will gain if they try to exactly eat back their calories. For example, does everyone wear a heart rate monitor? I do, and when I ran 5 miles Thursday MFP told me I burned 592 calories. My HRM told me I burned 375 - quite a difference. If I was eating back what MFP told me, I would be consuming at least 200 more calories that day.

    There is a simple middle ground. MFP wants me to eat 1200 per day, even with "active lifestyle" checked. I changed it to 1400, and I am to eat 1400-1600 per day, every day, no matter what exercise I do. This is what works for me. You may have to experiment with what works for you. 199 pounds gone forever for me so far.

    P.S. Google "starvation mode myth" and "muscle burns more per day then fat myth" and you will find hundreds of pages - with dozens of studies showing why this is not true.
  • Juliet_622
    Juliet_622 Posts: 165 Member
    Thanks for the post.
  • shaycat
    shaycat Posts: 980
    Thank you for the post. I wish I had known about this before I gained some weight back.
    I stilll dont know if I believe in starvation mode, but I do know that while I did lose lots of weight eating only 1200 calories a day and exercising for hours a day, once I tried to maintain that weight, it didnt work. Worse I now have unhealthy food habits that I never had before. So now I am back on track trying to eat back my calories.
  • jenniebean1680
    jenniebean1680 Posts: 350 Member
    Love it!!! This is why stalled my metabo and it's taking me forever to get back to losing mode. Having to refeed my body so it knows we're not in danger of starving, lol.

    So glad to hear a trainer backing up both MFP and my nutritionist.

    Eat those calories!!!
  • Katie1951
    Katie1951 Posts: 312 Member
    Thanks for the information. We really helped explain things.
  • BL_Coleman
    BL_Coleman Posts: 324 Member
    Thank you! makes me feel better about eating back my calories! i use it as a way to eat food i enjoy and not feel guilty!
  • sc1572
    sc1572 Posts: 2,309 Member
    AWESOME! Thanks!!!
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    [deleted my reply. i misunderstood your post initially]
  • Great post!:flowerforyou:
  • patricia909
    patricia909 Posts: 205 Member
    great post
  • Nic620
    Nic620 Posts: 553 Member
    Thanks for sharing!
  • BUMP!!
  • smlamb33
    smlamb33 Posts: 342 Member
    I think that this is something that we all are curious about. This is very informative! Thanks so much for sharing! I for one, really appreciate it! I want to be sure that I do this the right way and can make this a lifestyle change for life! :smile:
  • LindaLouLu
    LindaLouLu Posts: 271 Member
    Thank you! And thank you to your trainer for breaking this down Big Bird!!:flowerforyou:
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  • ahealthy4u
    ahealthy4u Posts: 442 Member
    Thank you for the information very helpful
  • junyr
    junyr Posts: 416 Member
    This help me a lot!! I burn 500-800 calories a session. I try to not got over my 1200 even if I worked out! I am tired and I had no idea what net calories meant. Thanks :)

    How do you have over 900 posts on here and not know what net calories mean? I'm really not trying to be an *kitten*, but I can hardly look at this forum or anything on this website without seeing the term several times.
  • mg720
    mg720 Posts: 212 Member
    thank you so much for sharing!
  • skyeashlee
    skyeashlee Posts: 108 Member
    perfect, thx for sharing :))) ur trainer sounds awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • clarebrad
    clarebrad Posts: 188 Member
    thank you so much for that. A really good post, simply put but not going all techincal and calulations etc. I had prob not been eating excercise cals back but am now excercising a lot more and have noticed getting a bit tired and very hungry , HRM on the way and will aim to eat more back.
  • imfittted
    imfittted Posts: 73 Member
    Glad to know I was correct to listen to that advice a while ago!
  • rbbrrmqn
    rbbrrmqn Posts: 132 Member
    THANKS SO MUCH!!! Not only have I NOT been eating my exercise cals back, I have been eating WAY below my target goal, by about 800-1000 cals per day. I will try to up things and see if that helps! Thanks again!!
  • MaximalLife
    MaximalLife Posts: 2,447 Member
    So YES, eat them back.
    MFP was right all along......fancy that....
  • eedossa
    eedossa Posts: 54 Member
    Thanks for the info!
  • Elizabeth_M
    Elizabeth_M Posts: 562 Member
    So well written, please pass along thanks to your trainer.
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  • MaximalLife
    MaximalLife Posts: 2,447 Member
    The answer she gives is right for the question asked HOWEVER you didn't tell her that MFP already sets you a deficit. I'm sure her answer would have been totally diferent then.

    Ask again and this time give her the full story

    How so? She's saying to eat most of them back. She acknowledges that 1200 is a deficit and probably too much for some people., then states that if you burn 600 and don't eat them back, you're asking your body to try and exist on 600 calories a day if your calories are set at 1200.

    Translation, she DOES get that you're at a deficit and she DOES advocate eating most of the exercise calories back.

    Hello-

    I also asked my certified trainer who also her degree in nutrition. And she told me that eating back your exercise calories defeats a major part of exercising for weight loss. If I am exercising for strength and mental well being, then that's one thing.

    The 1200 calorie goal (from clean foods--not junk) is intended to provide your body with the nutrients, vitamins and minerals to function while creating a caloric deficit. Your body IS getting the nutrients it needs and exercising does not take away these nutrients your body has taken in. It's already been ingested.

    These "opinions" by trainers and critics and anyone who calls themselves experts will ALWAYS differ. Knowing that, I asked my trusted physician (M.D.) and he agrees that I do not have to eat back my exercise calories. That if I am feeding my body good clean food, and NOT starving myself (by not eating), my body will NOT go into starvation mode.
    No, just follow the MFP recommendations, and if your trainer is ignorant of how deficits are factored, please don't take bad advice.

    MFP calculates our total daily calorie intake WITHOUT exercise to lose 1 pound or so per week.
    And after we log exercises, our daily calorie limit increases.
    Why?
    Because MFP telling us to eat our exercise calories.
    Large deficits are unhealthy, because while you will lose weight, what's the quality of the weight loss?
    In many cases you'll lose lean body mass - MUSCLE - which LOWERS your metabolic rate, making weight loss harder.
    These crash diets work well for a season -- and sure enough, the pounds melt away. But when you eat so
    few calories, you train your metabolism to slow down. Once the diet is over, you have a body that burns calories more slowly -- and you gain weight.
    Be smart.
    Exercise well both cardio and resistance, and eat back the calories.
    The exercise will RAISE your metabolism and burn more fat at rest.
  • Good info MaximaLife.
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