The real key to losing weight is Metabolism!!
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Till later!0
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Interesting, MFP says 8 cups of water is what I should take in. Seems reasonable. Also read on here, something written by someone "in the know", suggesting 4 litres a day!! Now that sounds like overkill on the water! What is one to do? It seems that for every expert that says one thing, you can find an expert that will say differently.0
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It's not broscience, it's Biology 101. Food equals fuel, and as long as you have food in your system being digested, you are not burning fat. Period. Eating constant small meals, and keeping your body in a fed state all day every day can create havoc on a hormonal level, as insulin stays high all the time (yes, eating constantly keeps insulin from spiking and crashing, as it stays continuously spiked
How do you explain my 63lbs lost then? I eat every couple of hours and have lost very consistently since I started this. I'm not diabetic, I don't even have IR anymore (confirmed by blood tests in Nov) I'm lifting weights and am a somewhat decent number for a beginner. Surely I have lost some fat in there?
I did a program a couple of years ago called SureSlim. They are advocates of three meals a day. I was to not eat for five hours at a time. I couldn't keep that up and fell off the wagon and gained.
There's no science to prove that constant eating works. There's none to prove it doesn't either. Like the endless debate over exercising in the morning or evening, it's whatever works best for the person doing it.
The issue here is not that eating 5 meal or even more will not help you personally. The point is the 5 meals in and of themselves have no effect on fat loss or metabolism. The way they help you as an individual is not in those areas, and your response shows that. The problem with the other diet in your own words was, "I couldn't keep that up and fell off the wagon and gained." Do you see what you said, the issue was falling off the wagon. What the 3 meals a day did was make that more likely for you. For me it is eating 5-6 meals a day that does the same thing. Every time I have fell off the wagon was when I ate more that 3 meals a day within my calories. I could not maintain that, so saying, incorrectly, that it increases metabolism if accepted by people like me would make them fall off the wagon.
Thankfully, the actual clinical research shows that you can eat one meal a day or nine. Neither one is preferable in itself. That is, if a person maintains the same deficit with 1 meal or 9 in a day they will lose the same amount of weight.
The take away from that is eat what will help you stick with the diet. Pure and simple. Don't start thinking we are saying you must eat 3 meals a day or 5 or 1 or any other number. Meal frequency has no effect.0 -
The differences these things make are very small the keys are simiple.
- Diet, get you daily carbs below 100g (which is easy and still allows you to eat bread etc)
- Aim for net calories of 1,500 which with exercise is easy to do, especially if can burn 600 each workout as means you can have 1900 a day of food
The weight will then just fly off, and in the end you will be happy as larry, as your diet will be better you will feel healthier and the exercise will give you the metabolism boost anyway.0 -
Thanks for the information. I do agree that you need to eat 6 small meals a day. I had gestational diabetes and my father has type 2. I was told that if I don't eat healthy and move more to lose weight then I have a 60% chance of getting type 2 diabetes. This was information given to me by the endocrinologist. They also told me they same information that you are sharing and even if the others don't agree with you I do because a doctor said the same. Good luck on your goals.0
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I found this very informative. Thank you.0
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Thank you for taking your time to post this very detailed point of view about weight loss. I've been distracted and have not been logging for many weeks, and weighed in 4 pounds up today. So this was a very good first post to see upon my return. While I was making progress before and doing well, it's great to see your lists and food ideas most of all (so I can "get back to it"). Thanks again.0
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all this info in plain english!!!0
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I agree,drinking water is good for you and I personally also choose to drink water.I have 1 cup of coffee a day then it is water or herbal or green tea plain. I am trying to stay away from splenda which is what I use when I need to. I don't drink diet drinks or anything like that and I feel better. My skin is dry by nature because I am in my mid 60's, but not like it could be I am sure. I tend to agree with the article because it goes along with all I have learned in my weight loss battle.0
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The differences these things make are very small the keys are simiple.
- Diet, get you daily carbs below 100g (which is easy and still allows you to eat bread etc)
- Aim for net calories of 1,500 which with exercise is easy to do, especially if can burn 600 each workout as means you can have 1900 a day of food
The weight will then just fly off, and in the end you will be happy as larry, as your diet will be better you will feel healthier and the exercise will give you the metabolism boost anyway.
Rationale for recommending everyone eat below 100g of cho and 1500 net cals?0 -
HOW DARE YOU EVEN QUESTION SENOR PEAR?!?!?!0
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Staying hydrated is a good thing; helps flush out your toxins and helps clear skin. As with anything, some things work for some people and not for others. The "studies" that people keep referring to mention this point ^^. Just because those twins didn't experience different health benefits doesn't mean that no one else will. Also, there can be a ton of different factors that affected the results that were produced.
I think the tips were great, some work for me, some don't. Overall great advice.
I also agree that some people are not the "Norm", but I think this was solid advice... Thank you for posting.0 -
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How do you explain my 63lbs lost then? I eat every couple of hours and have lost very consistently since I started this. I'm not diabetic, I don't even have IR anymore (confirmed by blood tests in Nov) I'm lifting weights and am a somewhat decent number for a beginner. Surely I have lost some fat in there?There's no science to prove that constant eating works. There's none to prove it doesn't either. Like the endless debate over exercising in the morning or evening, it's whatever works best for the person doing it.
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How do you explain my 63lbs lost then? I eat every couple of hours and have lost very consistently since I started this. I'm not diabetic, I don't even have IR anymore (confirmed by blood tests in Nov) I'm lifting weights and am a somewhat decent number for a beginner. Surely I have lost some fat in there?There's no science to prove that constant eating works. There's none to prove it doesn't either. Like the endless debate over exercising in the morning or evening, it's whatever works best for the person doing it.
^ here is a nice meta analysis
Bellisle F et. al. Meal frequency and energy balance. Br J Nutr. (1997) 77 (Suppl 1):S57-70
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494Abstract
Several epidemiological studies have observed an inverse relationship between people's habitual frequency of eating and body weight, leading to the suggestion that a 'nibbling' meal pattern may help in the avoidance of obesity. A review of all pertinent studies shows that, although many fail to find any significant relationship, the relationship is consistently inverse in those that do observe a relationship. However, this finding is highly vulnerable to the probable confounding effects of post hoc changes in dietary patterns as a consequence of weight gain and to dietary under-reporting which undoubtedly invalidates some of the studies. We conclude that the epidemiological evidence is at best very weak, and almost certainly represents an artefact. A detailed review of the possible mechanistic explanations for a metabolic advantage of nibbling meal patterns failed to reveal significant benefits in respect of energy expenditure. Although some short-term studies suggest that the thermic effect of feeding is higher when an isoenergetic test load is divided into multiple small meals, other studies refute this, and most are neutral. More importantly, studies using whole-body calorimetry and doubly-labelled water to assess total 24 h energy expenditure find no difference between nibbling and gorging. Finally, with the exception of a single study, there is no evidence that weight loss on hypoenergetic regimens is altered by meal frequency. We conclude that any effects of meal pattern on the regulation of body weight are likely to be mediated through effects on the food intake side of the energy balance equation.0 -
The differences these things make are very small the keys are simiple.
- Diet, get you daily carbs below 100g (which is easy and still allows you to eat bread etc)
- Aim for net calories of 1,500 which with exercise is easy to do, especially if can burn 600 each workout as means you can have 1900 a day of food
The weight will then just fly off, and in the end you will be happy as larry, as your diet will be better you will feel healthier and the exercise will give you the metabolism boost anyway.
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I read the article in Scientific american, here is my conclusion, drinking 8 glasses of water is not medically necessary, but having sufficient water will help promote digestion and the proper functioning of the body. Another advantage is when you are hungry, you can drink water to help suppress your hunger and drinking water with your meal may help you to feel full faster.
One last note, if you drink to much water you can OD on it, right, overdose and you can die from drinking to much water. There is an article in scientific American about overdosing on water. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill
Stick with 8 glasses of water per day, but generally you should drink till your thirst is satisfied. Marathon runners need to be especially careful about how much water they consume.0 -
I read the article in Scientific american, here is my conclusion, drinking 8 glasses of water is not medically necessary, but having sufficient water will help promote digestion and the proper functioning of the body. Another advantage is when you are hungry, you can drink water to help suppress your hunger and drinking water with your meal may help you to feel full faster.
One last note, if you drink to much water you can OD on it, right, overdose and you can die from drinking to much water. There is an article in scientific American about overdosing on water. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill
Stick with 8 glasses of water per day, but generally you should drink till your thirst is satisfied. Marathon runners need to be especially careful about how much water they consume.
But it's true that you don't NEED to drink 8 glasses of water per day.
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thanks, bump0
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