The real key to losing weight is Metabolism!!
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Wate flushes the toxic for your body .. drink up
No it doesn't. Your liver and kidneys flush toxins out of your body. Water gets digested, just like everything else you eat or drink.0 -
I have to keep quiet or I may get another warning.
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So much wasted knowledge in this thread. I am losing the will to live.0
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There have been no scientifically proven benefits to drinking extra water when you're not thirsty.
There was a study done with two identical twins- one drank the daily reccomended amount of water every day for a month and the other just drank when she was thirsty. At the end of the month there were absolutely no health benefits for the woman who drank the extra water.
I'm willing to bet a lot of the people who say they started drinking extra water and felt better are experiencing a placebo effect.
Of course if you WANT to drink extra water I'm not saying that you shouldn't- but I just don't understand why a lot of people on MFP preach that its a fact that you should drink a specific amount of water every day.
Article if anyone wants proof/evidence: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=eight-glasses-water-per-day
So if this is true why do people end up in the hospital on an iv for dehydration? because they don't feel thirsty and don't drink enough.....thus making what you say not accurate.
I would say 99% of people treated for dehydration are due to catastrophic injuries or serious illnesses. Nobody ends up in the hospital for "forgetting to drink," with the rare exception of some elderly people who have lost the ability to detect thirst.0 -
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Nobody is upset that you're suggesting to eat breakfast or eat often throughout the day. People are upset that you're suggesting that it will do something that has been proven that it does not do.0
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I agree with you 100% about high water intake, particularly above 2 litres a day. I do believe 6 to 8 glasses of water is necessary for good health. My experience over 30 years was that apart from whatever liquids i was getting from food I was only drinking maybe a glass of water a day.
Since having 6 to 8 glasses a day my skin is much smoother, not dry and scaly, my eyes are clearer and skin colour is far less sallow. I don't think I'd get any further benefit from doubling my water intake but keeping up my 6 glass minimum a day definitely has benefits.
Men in particular are notorious for avoiding drinking water. Women seem to be so much better at it.0 -
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It's obvious from all of the furor on this website about eating back exercise calories, drinking lots of water, eating lots of small meals, etc. that you can always find a study to support the theory you believe to be true. I think you have to use common sense, use your intellect to weed through some of the garbage and to understand the science behind metabolism, and keep in tune with what your own body needs. Because it seems to do no good to try to convince those who tout falacies, I will hold my tongue, so I will just congratulate the author on an excellent post!0
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Re: the water intake.
I have been drinking the 8 glasses per day, and i have noticed the difference, if nothing else i have noticed the difference in my skin. Even at the age of 47, I still get teenage spots
but since drinking the water my skin has improved so much. I haven't had a single pimple for a few weeks now.
It also does help you from eating so much. I have a bottle of water with me all the time, and if i feel peckish and its not time to eat it takes the edge off the hunger. It is a personal choice. and personally i choose to do it it works for me.
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Thank you so much, it's nice to see some sanity.......0
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HI, im eating 1 half boiled egg without egg yolk and mushroom soup in the morning ,for lunch , i will eat RICE and for dinner too i will eat rice but i will cut down the amount of it , RICE is like essential here , is it balanced diet ?0
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I have a strict policy of not arguing nutrition with people in better shape than me, esp people 18 years older and in better shape. . . . . . So Good for the OP! Obviously he is doing something right!0
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I have a strict policy of not arguing nutrition with people in better shape than me, esp people 18 years older and in better shape. . . . . . So Good for the OP! Obviously he is doing something right!
That is where broscience comes from. You should pay attention to the results of peer reviewed controlled studies and less attention to peoples individual experiences.0 -
HI, im eating 1 half boiled egg without egg yolk and mushroom soup in the morning ,for lunch , i will eat RICE and for dinner too i will eat rice but i will cut down the amount of it , RICE is like essential here , is it balanced diet ?
There is no way that is enough food to sustain you, first of all. Second of all, not so balanced, especially if you eat the same thing every day.0 -
No one said that it doesn't work. We're just saying that it's broscience and isn't necessary to achieve your weight loss or health goals.
If you want to eat 10 times a day, go for it. It works just as well as eating 2 or 3 times a day.
If you want to eat breakfast, go for it. It doesn't matter if you do or don't. As long as you hit your calorie intake and macros for the day.
If you want to do HIIT cardio training, go for it. Doesn't matter. You can do all the HIIT until you are blue in the face and can't feel your toes, but if your diet is not 100% you will go no where.
Males and Females will benefit more from actually doing some resistance weight training moreso than doing HIIT cardio because of body composition. This is along with eating a calorie deficit or even a surplus if you're bulking.
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I have a strict policy of not arguing nutrition with people in better shape than me, esp people 18 years older and in better shape. . . . . . So Good for the OP! Obviously he is doing something right!
That is where broscience comes from. You should pay attention to the results of peer reviewed controlled studies and less attention to peoples individual experiences.
Guess i like broscience then. Call me old fashioned, show me a six pack, tell me how you got it. Good enough for me.0 -
No one said that it doesn't work. We're just saying that it's broscience and isn't necessary to achieve your weight loss or health goals.
If you want to eat 10 times a day, go for it. It works just as well as eating 2 or 3 times a day.
If you want to eat breakfast, go for it. It doesn't matter if you do or don't. As long as you hit your calorie intake and macros for the day.
If you want to do HIIT cardio training, go for it. Doesn't matter. You can do all the HIIT until you are blue in the face and can't feel your toes, but if your diet is not 100% you will go no where.
Males and Females will benefit more from actually doing some resistance weight training moreso than doing HIIT cardio because of body composition. This is along with eating a calorie deficit or even a surplus if you're bulking.
Do I still need to talk about this or can we put it to rest?
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I can honestly say that everything stated by the OP has helped me on my "journey".
I'm a firm believer in drinking lots of water to not only stay hydrated, but more full as well.
And the breakfast "myth"?
When I was in school each class was polled to see who ate breakfast. Sure enough, EVERY obese kid in the school neve ate breakfast, whereas my parents wouldn't let me (the bean pole in my class) ever leave the house in the morning without a decent meal in my belly.
And I used to eat breakfast every morning and was incredibly pudgy. Now I get up at 6 am and don't eat until 2pm and very lean. WHOA!! I should be obese by what you say then??
Just blew your mind I know. lol xD
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I can honestly say that everything stated by the OP has helped me on my "journey".
I'm a firm believer in drinking lots of water to not only stay hydrated, but more full as well.
And the breakfast "myth"?
When I was in school each class was polled to see who ate breakfast. Sure enough, EVERY obese kid in the school neve ate breakfast, whereas my parents wouldn't let me (the bean pole in my class) ever leave the house in the morning without a decent meal in my belly.
And I used to eat breakfast every morning and was incredibly pudgy. Now I get up at 6 am and don't eat until 2pm and very lean. WHOA!! I should be obese by what you say then??
Just blew your mind I know. lol xD
You were pudgy because you weren't active
I lifted weights and played volleyball.0 -
Guess i like broscience then. Call me old fashioned, show me a six pack, tell me how you got it. Good enough for me.
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It was a dark and stormy evening and my car battery had just died. I managed to pull over alongside the highway where, in the pouring rain, I walked for miles on end -- just looking for civilization. After several hours, with mud covering my sneakers and matted down hair, I finally saw light in the distance. I got closer and closer and realized it was some sort of diner.
Finally I arrived. The smell of greasy meat hit me in the face when I opened the door and I immediately sat down on one of the old, beaten stools. A curly-haired lady in her 50's took my order.
"I'd like a bacon cheeseburger with a side of french fries".
No sooner did the word "fries" escape my mouth when a shadow was cast over my body. A man was now standing over me. A big, big burly man. He had to be 6'10 and covered in hair, with a bone in his nose and a large club. He looked rather caveman-like.
In a gruff voice, he muttered:
"OOGA OOGA. Potato NO PALEO"
And I've had a six pack ever since.0 -
Greatest story ever.0
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Guess i like broscience then. Call me old fashioned, show me a six pack, tell me how you got it. Good enough for me.
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It was a dark and stormy evening and my car battery had just died. I managed to pull over alongside the highway where, in the pouring rain, I walked for miles on end -- just looking for civilization. After several hours, with mud covering my sneakers and matted down hair, I finally saw light in the distance. I got closer and closer and realized it was some sort of diner.
Finally I arrived. The smell of greasy meat hit me in the face when I opened the door and I immediately sat down on one of the old, beaten stools. A curly-haired lady in her 50's took my order.
"I'd like a bacon cheeseburger with a side of french fries".
No sooner did the word "fries" escape my mouth when a shadow was cast over my body. A man was now standing over me. A big, big burly man. He had to be 6'10 and covered in hair, with a bone in his nose and a large club. He looked rather caveman-like.
In a gruff voice, he muttered:
"OOGA OOGA. Potato NO PALEO"
And I've had a six pack ever since.
BEST POST IN THE WORLD ^^^^^^0 -
Guess i like broscience then. Call me old fashioned, show me a six pack, tell me how you got it. Good enough for me.
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It was a dark and stormy evening and my car battery had just died. I managed to pull over alongside the highway where, in the pouring rain, I walked for miles on end -- just looking for civilization. After several hours, with mud covering my sneakers and matted down hair, I finally saw light in the distance. I got closer and closer and realized it was some sort of diner.
Finally I arrived. The smell of greasy meat hit me in the face when I opened the door and I immediately sat down on one of the old, beaten stools. A curly-haired lady in her 50's took my order.
"I'd like a bacon cheeseburger with a side of french fries".
No sooner did the word "fries" escape my mouth when a shadow was cast over my body. A man was now standing over me. A big, big burly man. He had to be 6'10 and covered in hair, with a bone in his nose and a large club. He looked rather caveman-like.
In a gruff voice, he muttered:
"OOGA OOGA. Potato NO PALEO"
And I've had a six pack ever since.
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Guess i like broscience then. Call me old fashioned, show me a six pack, tell me how you got it. Good enough for me.
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It was a dark and stormy evening and my car battery had just died. I managed to pull over alongside the highway where, in the pouring rain, I walked for miles on end -- just looking for civilization. After several hours, with mud covering my sneakers and matted down hair, I finally saw light in the distance. I got closer and closer and realized it was some sort of diner.
Finally I arrived. The smell of greasy meat hit me in the face when I opened the door and I immediately sat down on one of the old, beaten stools. A curly-haired lady in her 50's took my order.
"I'd like a bacon cheeseburger with a side of french fries".
No sooner did the word "fries" escape my mouth when a shadow was cast over my body. A man was now standing over me. A big, big burly man. He had to be 6'10 and covered in hair, with a bone in his nose and a large club. He looked rather caveman-like.
In a gruff voice, he muttered:
"OOGA OOGA. Potato NO PALEO"
And I've had a six pack ever since.
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Thanks for sharing! It looks correct to me.
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...that you can always find a study to support the theory you believe to be true.
This is especially true of epidemiology studies and that is part of the problem. Many people look to these studies as definitive, and by design, they are not. A hard scientific study, on the other hand, may be -- if properly designed.
You know all those stories about how "this is bad for you" and then ten years later they say, "oops, maybe it's good for you"? Those typically are the result of misinterpreted epidemiological studies -- drawing a conclusion where none should be drawn.
I've pointed out (IIRC) four studies refuting the point. I have yet to see a study (non-epidemiological) supporting the OP's contention. If anyone would post one I'd be happy to look at it.
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Here's a thought experiment.
Imagine consuming 2400 Calories in a day equally in 3 meals -- 800 Cals/meal.
Now, imagine eating those same Calories over 6 meals -- 400 Cals/meal.
The hypothetical is that the 6 400 Cal meals boosts metabolism more than the 3 800 Cals/meal.
Now, imagine eating 24 100 Cal meals.
Take it to the extreme: imagine being on an IV drip putting a steady stream of 1.666 Cals/minute into your body.
Does anyone think that doing this will be hugely more beneficial to the metabolism than eating 3 meals a day? If 6 is better than three, wouldn't continuous feeding boost the metabolism immensely? If the former is true but the latter is not, why not?0 -
Your metabolism is a 24 hour machine. It doesn't shut off just because its 10pm.0
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love this story^.Guess i like broscience then. Call me old fashioned, show me a six pack, tell me how you got it. Good enough for me.
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It was a dark and stormy evening and my car battery had just died. I managed to pull over alongside the highway where, in the pouring rain, I walked for miles on end -- just looking for civilization. After several hours, with mud covering my sneakers and matted down hair, I finally saw light in the distance. I got closer and closer and realized it was some sort of diner.
Finally I arrived. The smell of greasy meat hit me in the face when I opened the door and I immediately sat down on one of the old, beaten stools. A curly-haired lady in her 50's took my order.
"I'd like a bacon cheeseburger with a side of french fries".
No sooner did the word "fries" escape my mouth when a shadow was cast over my body. A man was now standing over me. A big, big burly man. He had to be 6'10 and covered in hair, with a bone in his nose and a large club. He looked rather caveman-like.
In a gruff voice, he muttered:
"OOGA OOGA. Potato NO PALEO"
And I've had a six pack ever since.0
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