CEREAL!!!

Cereal is evil :laugh:

I alternate between:

Eggs, scrambled in the microwave with ham, spinach, cheese, tomatoes, whatever I have in the fridge
Natural yoghurt with fruit or nuts and seeds
Wholewheat toast with peanut butter.
Occasionally smoked fish, though it's high in fats, so maybe once a week.

Porridge oats are nice made into proper Bircher muesli: soak a handful of oats overnight in fruit juice (or water) Next morning grate a whole apple into it, add a blod of youghurt and any other nuts or seeds you fancy. Drizzle with honey, or sprionkle with cinnamon.

Porridge with chocolate protein powder added improves the taste

Bircher muesli sounds lovely, I will have to try that one :happy:

I used to have a nightmare with cereal! Seriously, my boyfriend would dread getting to the cereal aisle in the supermarket, as I'd never know what to choose, and I'd get reaaaally bored with whatever healthy choice I was currently eating. I'm currently so into porridge, which I didn't think I liked. I soak the oats beforehand in a mix of skimmed milk and water, which makes it really creamy. I have it usually with cinnamon, agave nectar, and blueberries - but this week I've had also sometimes plums and apricots. I think I would hate it too with just water and sweeteners, yech.

Pairing fruit and/or greek yoghurt with whatever cereal you choose is a good way to bulk it up without needing to eat so much cereal (if 100g was your serving size). Weekend brekkie is so much fun too - either eggs and granary toast, or blueberry wholemeal pancakes, or I love porridge so much now I sometimes have it instead! I love breakfast now!

Weigh out 40g of cereal , use a glass of water and 80mls of milk ( you need the calcium for your bones ) to moisten it ...add a sweetner if you can't get used to the taste but add some FRESH fruit , 6 large strawberries , blueberries or banana or whatever. You should use around 300-400 calories on breakfast, its the most important meal of the day , it will set up your metabolism. 100g of cereal for breakfast is wayyyyy too much .

Cereal is such a hidden killer and most people dont realise it.

Did you really mean this? A KILLER? Cereal? Seriously?

Hypertension is a hidden killer. Cereal? :noway:

Bircher muesli is so worth the effort in making it. Puffed wheat/corn/kamut are good, then just put fruit or a bit of honey or maple syrup on it to sweeten, its like 60cal a cup so you can go nuts with the toppings

Cereal is such a hidden killer and most people dont realise it.

Did you really mean this? A KILLER? Cereal? Seriously?

Hypertension is a hidden killer. Cereal? :noway:

No I didnt actually mean this but now im here im going to dive into proving that it can be a killer...

Many people eat cereal with sugar or fruit (Both contain FRUCTOSE (i.e. fruit sugar, table sugar = sucrose made of glucose + fructose). OK so now we know that eating cereal can potentially contain a lot of fructose..


Fructose has been shown to increase risks of developing the "metabolic syndrome" . This is because it causes insulin resistance, increases LDL-cholesterol (the bad one) and is highly corrlerated with increased obesity. Many scientific papers have shown the dangers of fructose (will link if you wish) and some even suggest to actively minimise fruit consumption (taking micronutrients in through other sources such as vitamin tablets).

Obesity and insulin resistance have both been shown to cause increases in blood pressure -

Insulin resistance because Insulin has a vasodilatory effect on blood vessels - This doesnt happen so blood vessels contrict raising blood pressure.

Also Increased Insulin resistance and LDL-cholesterol have both casually been related to increased obesity and all-cause mortality (heart attacks, myocardial infarcation etc).

So there, I absolutely guarantee that someone in the world has died at least partially due to the excessive consumption of cereal containing fructose.

=D

Cereal is such a hidden killer and most people dont realise it.

Did you really mean this? A KILLER? Cereal? Seriously?

Hypertension is a hidden killer. Cereal? :noway:

Maybe it's a CEREAL KILLER. Buh-boom, tish. Uh, I'll get my coat...

I like your corny joke

Metabolic syndrome

Excess fructose consumption has been hypothesized to be a cause of insulin resistance, obesity,[40] elevated LDL cholesterol and triglycerides, leading to metabolic syndrome.[41] Fructose consumption has been shown to be correlated with obesity,[42][43] especially central obesity, which is thought to be the most dangerous kind of obesity. A study in mice showed that a high fructose intake increases adiposity.[44]

Although all simple sugars have nearly identical chemical formulae, each has distinct chemical properties. This can be illustrated with pure fructose. A journal article reports that, "...fructose given alone increased the blood glucose almost as much as a similar amount of glucose (78% of the glucose-alone area)".[45][46][47][47][48]

One study concluded that fructose "produced significantly higher fasting plasma triacylglycerol values than did the glucose diet in men" and "...if plasma triacylglycerols are a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, then diets high in fructose may be undesirable".[49] Bantle et al. "noted the same effects in a study of 14 healthy volunteers who sequentially ate a high-fructose diet and one almost devoid of the sugar."[50]

Fructose is a reducing sugar, as are all monosaccharides. The spontaneous chemical reaction of simple sugar molecules binding to proteins, known as glycation, is thought to be a significant cause of damage in diabetics. Fructose appears to be equivalent to glucose in this regard and so does not seem to be a better answer for diabetes for this reason alone, save for the smaller quantities required to achieve equivalent sweetness in some foods.[51] This may be an important contribution to senescence and many age-related chronic diseases.[52]

A simple, partial explanation stolen from wikipedia

I LOVE cereal.

http://www.dorsetcereals.co.uk/mueslis/berries-cherries

I have 45g of this ^ every morning, and at 144 calories, it's perfect. I need the carbs when I wake up and it's extreeeeemely tasty with a bit of milk to soften, a chopped banana, and a low fat yogurt. My breakfast works out at about 330 calories, which I'm completely happy with because I get to eat a LOT of it!

Let me make my point clear - Im not demonizing cereal - I like cereal and I do appreciate it can be a healthy breakfast. What is the problem is that many people rinse through bowl after bowl of cereal blindly thinking its an ultimately healthy food. The reality is there are many different types and brands of cereal - some are good for you, some are not.

I didnt mean what I said earlier about cereal being a killer - I meant that it can ealy kill your daily calorie limit. And Dark choclate is one of the healthiest foods on the market (in moderation) in terms of cardiovascular health, reduced blood sugar ETC.

Have you ever died? Have you ever analysed why somebody else died? Guessing not - neither have I.

But some people have and they have analysed what types of food cause what. When there results suggest things that people dont want to hear (probably due to a lifetime of marketing) they brush it off.

Go up to a random person in the street and tell them that Cornflakes has a GI index of 82 and dark choclate has a GI index of 22 (Ranking it below chick peas, kidney beans and lentils) youll get laughed at.

Im not saying any food is bad im just saying people need to be more critical about what theyve been told is good for them and look at the actual facts.

Cereal is such a hidden killer and most people dont realise it.

Did you really mean this? A KILLER? Cereal? Seriously?

Hypertension is a hidden killer. Cereal? :noway:

No I didnt actually mean this but now im here im going to dive into proving that it can be a killer...

Many people eat cereal with sugar or fruit (Both contain FRUCTOSE (i.e. fruit sugar, table sugar = sucrose made of glucose + fructose). OK so now we know that eating cereal can potentially contain a lot of fructose..


Fructose has been shown to increase risks of developing the "metabolic syndrome" . This is because it causes insulin resistance, increases LDL-cholesterol (the bad one) and is highly corrlerated with increased obesity. Many scientific papers have shown the dangers of fructose (will link if you wish) and some even suggest to actively minimise fruit consumption (taking micronutrients in through other sources such as vitamin tablets).

Obesity and insulin resistance have both been shown to cause increases in blood pressure -

Insulin resistance because Insulin has a vasodilatory effect on blood vessels - This doesnt happen so blood vessels contrict raising blood pressure.

Also Increased Insulin resistance and LDL-cholesterol have both casually been related to increased obesity and all-cause mortality (heart attacks, myocardial infarcation etc).

So there, I absolutely guarantee that someone in the world has died at least partially due to the excessive consumption of cereal containing fructose.

=D

Water CAN be a killer. A t-shirt CAN be a killer. Please just post "Cereal is not a hidden killer." If you agree with that, I can say cool. If not:

:huh: You are aware that what you just posted contains a lot of reaching, grabbing at straws, and use of correlational blah blah to make an inference of causality, right? You should absolutely post links to these studies because the science folks (I tend to be more of a common sense type girl myself) are going to engage you in some delightful debate.

I won't even make an attempt to debate because honestly, this isn't my area of expertise and I don't have the knowledge base to do so. What I can say with certainty is cereal is in no way a killer and has no relationship to death. Fructose isn't a killer either. If I say this out loud, it makes me laugh. Poisons are killers; unless you're allergic, foods aren't.

No offence, but your a classic example of common sense vs science. You think you would prefer doctors to use their common sense when they treat you as opposed to using inferential statistics to prove (OK I admit, most medicine research using cronbach's alpha of .001 which means that theres a 1% chance their wrong) that a medicine works?

Pretty sure they did that in the middle ages and someone decided blood letting was a good cure for headaches?

I won't even make an attempt to debate because honestly, this isn't my area of expertise and I don't have the knowledge base to do so. What I can say with certainty is cereal is in no way a killer and has no relationship to death. Fructose isn't a killer either. If I say this out loud, it makes me laugh. Poisons are killers; unless you're allergic, foods aren't.

Also, who what makes poison a killer? Some are pretty obvious - e.g. Cyanide - you die instantly. But is it clutching at straws to measure toxicity or relationships with work environments in people who are exposed to poisons and die years later and then say HEY guess what asbestos is bad for you?